Re: [Design-team] Re: Fedora Badges: Switching from [e-mail].o list to Discourse?

[Máirín Duffy]

Well no. Pagure makes sense bc it's the main status tracking mechanism and integrates
everything together. Not that it's ideal for mail.
It does cause other issues. Bc pagure has its own mail system based on FAS (rather than
list fwd as BZ does), I cannot control on project by project basis my mail delivery prefs.
BC of limited @redhat.com mail quota I pay for 3rd party email for my fedoraproject.org
emails, and I do not follow that acct as closely bc of the sheer volume (my github and
gitlab mail goes to same acct.) There are a a handful of pagure projs Id like delivered to
my rh mail but have no control to do that.
Bc mailman is centered on delivering mails, it has far more opts for configuring in such a
scenario.
@ tagging me does no good bc of this. If I notice it at all it'll take a few days.
I dont know if it makes sense to shut down the list or ban discussion on it, what good
would it do?
~m
Sent from my phone, not an iphone.
-------- Original message --------From: Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;
Date: 10/18/18  5:43 AM  (GMT-08:00) To: Fedora Design Team
<design-team(a)lists.fedoraproject.org&gt; Cc: badges(a)lists.fedoraproject.org,
"Justin W. Flory" <jflory7(a)gmail.com&gt; Subject: [Design-team] Re: Fedora
Badges: Switching from badges(a)lists.fp.o list to Discourse? 
On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 12:10:43AM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
>  The Badges team is ticket driven. Discussions happen in Pagure.
> Newbies
>  are oriented via the Design team new member process and are often pointed
>  to the Badges Pagure queue to find an initial task to work on. Your
>  observations about activity on the badge list, Justin, evidence this. 
This is interesting. I assume that the team switched to having Pagure be the
focus for discussion for some of the reasons that Discourse appeals: the
ability to upload and display graphics inline (without the... challenges...
of HTML mail), @tagging people, and so on.

I have a different proposal, then... why not shut down the badges list, and
just direct people to Pagure? Or, keep the list, but change the description
to note that it's for announcements rather than discussion?


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[Design-team] Re: Fedora Badges: Switching from [e-mail].o list to Discourse?

[Brian (bex) Exelbierd]

On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 12:41 AM Máirín Duffy <duffy(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  Well no. Pagure makes sense bc it's the main status tracking mechanism and integrates
> everything together. Not that it's ideal for mail.
>
>  It does cause other issues. Bc pagure has its own mail system based on FAS (rather than
> list fwd as BZ does), I cannot control on project by project basis my mail delivery prefs.
This sounds like a huge feature need in Pagure.  Perhaps you could
open an issue.  I suspect your UI/UX skills could make this a much
better interface than the similar system offered by GitHub.

regards,

bex

>   BC of limited @redhat.com mail quota I pay for 3rd party email for
> my fedoraproject.org emails, and I do not follow that acct as closely bc of the sheer
> volume (my github and gitlab mail goes to same acct.) There are a a handful of pagure
> projs Id like delivered to my rh mail but have no control to do that.
>
>  Bc mailman is centered on delivering mails, it has far more opts for configuring in such
> a scenario.
>
>  @ tagging me does no good bc of this. If I notice it at all it'll take a few days.
>
>  I dont know if it makes sense to shut down the list or ban discussion on it, what good
> would it do?
>
>  ~m
>
>  Sent from my phone, not an iphone.
>
>  -------- Original message --------
>  From: Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;
>  Date: 10/18/18 5:43 AM (GMT-08:00)
>  To: Fedora Design Team <design-team(a)lists.fedoraproject.org&gt;
>  Cc: badges(a)lists.fedoraproject.org, "Justin W. Flory"
> <jflory7(a)gmail.com&gt;
>  Subject: [Design-team] Re: Fedora Badges: Switching from badges(a)lists.fp.o list to
> Discourse?
>
>  On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 12:10:43AM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
>  > The Badges team is ticket driven. Discussions happen in Pagure. Newbies
>  > are oriented via the Design team new member process and are often pointed
>  > to the Badges Pagure queue to find an initial task to work on. Your
>  > observations about activity on the badge list, Justin, evidence this.
>
>  This is interesting. I assume that the team switched to having Pagure be the
>  focus for discussion for some of the reasons that Discourse appeals: the
>  ability to upload and display graphics inline (without the... challenges...
>  of HTML mail), @tagging people, and so on.
>
>  I have a different proposal, then... why not shut down the badges list, and
>  just direct people to Pagure? Or, keep the list, but change the description
>  to note that it's for announcements rather than discussion?
>
>
>  --
>  Matthew Miller
>  <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;
>  Fedora Project Leader
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