Re: Ambassador Help for a Sophomore
by Ryan Rix
On Tue 20 April 2010 9:01:10 pm you wrote:
>
> I got recommended by StabbyMc and lcafiero to contact you two because you
> are currently still in high school. As I am myself a sophmore in high
> school (apparently making me the youngest ambassador of the bunch), I
> would like to ask at least one question, although knowing me I'll probably
> end up asking a few more later on. Since school work gets in the way most
> of the time with helping as an ambassador, what kinds of things have you
> two been doing to help while in high school. I hope you understand what I
> mean by that, since I really want to help but aren't exactly sure what all
> my options are. For now I'm considering being a Campus Ambassador in
> addition to already being a normal Ambassador.
>
> Thanks a lot for your help on this.
Hello Danny,
Nice to meet you, glad that we see some more Ambassadors in high school! I
think Joe O'Dell is beating you out as the youngest Ambassadors as a freshman
in high school, though. :) I've cc'd Joe and he can probably also provide some
good insight as well if he doesn't mind the mailbomb ;)
Campus Ambassadors is definitely something you should look at getting involved
in; the main purpose of the group is to give Ambassadors that are still in
school the chance to interface with others who are also still in school. Kind
of a subgroup, I guess, rather than Yet Another Group To Join. I've cc'd the
list in this mail, maybe some other members can also give you some useful
feedback. Since you're already a Fedora Ambassador, you are completely welcome
to our group! (Even if you weren't, you'd still be welcome, you'd just have to
become a fedora ambassador :) )
Personally, the biggest thing that you can do with your time on campus, even
if taken mostly by school is to leverage your friendships as a chance to
introduce Fedora (the distro and community) to possible new users and
community members. I guess a better way to put that, and perhaps it is more
effective to look at it this way, is to leverage Fedora to help your friends.
"Oh waaaah, I don't have Microsoft Widgetizer to do this project" "wellll,
here, take this, pop it in your cd drive, and do your homework." or "Oh
waaaaah, my computer is broken... Got a nasty virus and Windows won't start"
"oh here, take this, pop it in your cd drive and give it a shot. If you like
it I can help you install it." Things like that are, imo, the most effective
way to bring folks to seeing how awesome our distro is. Introduce bug
reporting as a way to get a user involved in our community, etc.
And make noise. You're a computer geek. You have computer geek friends(?) Make
sure they know that you don't run Windows. You'll be the first person they
come to when they need a way out of the Windows hole, or even looking for
alternatives to expensive proprietary software on Windows.
I think that in situations like the latter, it is more effective in the long
run to create stepping stones, rather than just plopping a CD in their hands
and telling them to have at it. I've given folks this route, and two or three
now are happy Fedora users, because they see the benefits of FOSS as a whole,
after seeing what OOo, Scribus, GIMP or Inkscape or any of countless other
programs we have can do for them.
Most of your ambassador work you will do in a high school setting isn't
"official" ambassadors work, ie, there is no event to report on at the FAmNA
meeting, there is no real recognition from our side of things; it's all very
ad-hoc. I'm kinda trying to think of a way to make things more, ya know,
verbose on our side of things, communicating success stories, tips and non-
success stories back to the rest of the CampusAmb community so we can learn
what does and doesn't work. If you can't tell, I am a fan of verbosity and
transparency :)
Do you have a local LUG? Getting involved with it outside of school is also a
good way to get to know your community as well, and gives you a soap box to
stand on :) Meetings for most LUGs are sparse enough that you can mostly get
away with them not interfering with school, and gives you a chance to give
presentations, meet fellow Free Software enthusiasts, and make contacts for
possible summer work in FOSS (yup, it's almost that time of the year!), and
get to know the community that you will primarily be representing Fedora in
after you graduate from High School and Secondary Education.
EOF. I think CampusAmb is probably getting tired of the constant ZOMG-LONG-
MAILBOMBs but what can I say, I was compiled with --verbose ;) They are more
than welcome to talk back though, I know there are a few of us out there!
Good night,
Ryan Rix
> --
> Danny Stieben
> Fedora Ambassador
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13 years, 7 months
E-mail id to mail me
by Rohit Anand
To Whomsoever it may concern,
My email id is rohitanand.iiitm(a)gmail.com
13 years, 7 months
Fedora Campus Ambassadors -- Where we are at and where we are going
by Ryan Rix
Hello one and all,
Me again :) I just wanted to let everyone know where Campus Ambassadors
will be going in the future, based on the discussion we had on the list a
week or two back, along with some informal talk with Mel Chua as well and
others.
First of all, Campus Ambassadors will be a subset of the full fledged
Fedora Ambassadors program. As such, each Campus Ambassador will have to
go through the mentoring process that all other ambassadors need to go
through to be admitted into the program. This is outlined at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Join . We feel that it would be
beneficial for everyone involved if the Campus Ambassadors were trained as
ambassadors not only because they would have the same access to the full
resources of their region's ambassador program, but because they will also
better have the knowledge of what we are. This includes knowledge and
interest in upholding our Four Foundations, promoting Fedora properly at
Events and other important things. I am going to talk to FAmSCo to see if
anything could happen to make it easier for our campus ambassadors to
join, whether it is campus ambassador-specific mentors, or something else.
Secondly, since we are a subset of the Ambassador program, this list will
primarily be used for planning events in campuses, discussing what works
on campuses, what does not. We will not start out with a "Here is what you
do to make you campus a successful campus for Fedora," but we will embrace
the ideas of a meritocracy; you tell us what works, document what you did
on the wiki, and eventually we will have a set of ideas on what works, and
what does not. There is no way to really plan ahead and document what
people should be doing, as most situations need to be planned when they
happen based on the many variables of "where I am in the student
population (freshman in college, grad student, etc)" "size of school"
"pre-existing Linux/Fedora footprint" ETC.
I will be documenting all of this on the wiki tonight. If you have applied
for the campus ambassador group, and you are not a member of the
Ambassadors group in Fedora Account System, I will be mailing you offlist
tonight.
Thanks!
Ryan Rix
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13 years, 7 months
clarification
by sara singh
I just wanted to know whether i am now the
campus-ambassador.fedoraproject.org.........please rpy me,,,,,,,
13 years, 7 months
need guidance for campus ambassador
by praveen raj
hello
my name is praveen studying engineering, i want to become campus ambassador
in my college so please guide me how to do so.
13 years, 7 months
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13 years, 7 months
Re: Kickstarting CampusAmb
by Suchakra
Hi,
To : Sankarshan
Yes a team in our college is involved in a gedit+l10n project. A lot of
enthusiasts are there too. As you are on CoFSUG then you must be aware of
the FOSS culture here. I had a meeting yesterday with a couple of students
who were keenly interested in having a Fedora event in the college and asked
me how contributions can be made to Open Source and Fedora in general. We
may have a mini event of that sorts here soon. Anyway, as far as my
interactions here with Comp/IT people goes, I believe your suggestions of
the topics for talks are essentially correct and I shall follow your ideas,
but its true nevertheless that Fedora is sidelined here (to some extent) -
even when it provides a good platform like FedoraProject to contribute. (I
feel its the easiest, best and well organized ways of contributing to FOSS).
Oh, we shall be needing your help for that event soon..maybe in a couple of
months. I hope you will oblige us.
Suchakra
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> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Suchakra <suchakra(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Ya, so coming to the point, I agree with Ryan on almost all points
> > stated by him especially the one that local LUGs are dominated by
> > Ubuntu users. Even in my campus, we have just had a local Ubuntu
> > mirror up and working, but people have 2 take fedora discs and ISOs
> > from me physically. The reason is simple - No proper introduction to
> > the other distributions of linux to budding linux users. It makes one
> > believe that Ubuntu is Linux and Linux is Ubuntu. Also in order to
> > increase the fedora footprint, and encouraging technically sound guys
> > (we have lots of them in our college) to contribute to the project, we
> > need to have events and talks, be it on a small scale or large scale.
>
> Are the students in your college already involved in contributing to
> FOSS ? Instead of sharply focusing on "Fedora" or, "Ubuntu" it might
> be good to begin with pointing to them good upstream participation
> practices. For example, a session that discusses the relevant bits of
> The Open Source Way and, Producing Open Source Software so as to make
> the best bits a part of the story.
>
>
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> <http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog>
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13 years, 8 months
Kickstarting CampusAmb
by Suchakra
Hi All,
I've already given my intro but still you may visit my fedora wiki
userpage for more info User:Suchakra. I'm in India btw.
==
Ya, so coming to the point, I agree with Ryan on almost all points
stated by him especially the one that local LUGs are dominated by
Ubuntu users. Even in my campus, we have just had a local Ubuntu
mirror up and working, but people have 2 take fedora discs and ISOs
from me physically. The reason is simple - No proper introduction to
the other distributions of linux to budding linux users. It makes one
believe that Ubuntu is Linux and Linux is Ubuntu. Also in order to
increase the fedora footprint, and encouraging technically sound guys
(we have lots of them in our college) to contribute to the project, we
need to have events and talks, be it on a small scale or large scale.
I'm doing my share but just a class of 25 prospective students every
1.5 months is hardly what I want. Also, lots of stuff is needed for
such events (stickers, badges, pens etc) and it becomes absolutely
difficult even if i plan to procure them myself. I can give talks and
presentations but to leave a Fedora print in someone's mind we do need
the stuff. On a tight budget, surely, its difficult but I hope,
Ambassador's program will be willing to help. I'l make my first try at
having a little event organized and see the outcome.
Oh and yes, we need the wiki structure worked out too. It surely is a
good idea. I hope someone good with wiki editing may help. I shall try
my best too. Just lets freeze the structure first.
Lastly, its true we need a one point contact (the aristocracy Ryan
talked bout) to get ourselves organized. That shall be sponsors I
guess or guys with prior experience in managing events/spreading the
word.
One more thing, due to geographical differences, its almost impossible
for me to be on freenode so we need to find a way out for that. I
prefer the mailing list in digest mode.
==
Suchakra
==
http://suchakra.wordpress.com
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> Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:00:12 -0700
> From: Ryan Rix <ry(a)n.rix.si>
> Subject: Kickstarting the Fedora Campus Ambassadors program
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> Hello one and all,
>
> For about two months now, there has been a pickup in interest in Fedora's
> campus ambassadors program. I think that it is about time for us to start
> picking up efforts for the program. I'm going to go ahead and try to kickstart
> a bit of discussion about exactly WHO we are, WHAT we want to do, and HOW we
> will do it. Anyone feel free to jump in, as this is a discussion I'd like all
> current and prospective campus ambassadors to take part in.
>
> With that out of the way, I have a few questions to ask, and my answers for
> them.
> nt, I'm going to go ahead and try
> 1) What do you want to see in the campus ambassador program? What is our
> primary goal?
> 2) How (or should we?) differentiate from the main Fedora Ambassadors program?
> 3) How should we interract with the Fedora Ambassadors program?
> 4) What are our next steps?
>
> Thanks and best,
> Ryan Rix
> --
> Ryan Rix
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>
13 years, 8 months
Re: FAD for User Driven Testing
by Mel Chua
>> Schedule-wise, I'm looking at sometime between June and September 2010.
>> If you're interested in participating, please either reply here, or let
>> me know offlist. We'll figure out where the best location for this is
>> when we have an idea of who wants to participate. Also, if you want to
>> participate, but have specific dates which will not work, be sure to
>> state that too.
This actually strikes me as a cool thing that Campus Ambassadors could
do to kick off the school year - maybe do a first FAD during the summer
(June-Sep) to get a first round up and going, and then student groups
can pick it up immediately afterwards (in September, say) and say "okay,
cool - let's try this out as a way to get new contributors on our
campuses started!" and have people in the background hacking on code
and/or docs more if needed.
Campus Ambassadors, for context, the discussion is from:
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/fudcon-planning/2010-March/00060...
--Mel
13 years, 8 months
Kickstarting the Fedora Campus Ambassadors program
by Ryan Rix
Hello one and all,
For about two months now, there has been a pickup in interest in Fedora's
campus ambassadors program. I think that it is about time for us to start
picking up efforts for the program. I'm going to go ahead and try to kickstart
a bit of discussion about exactly WHO we are, WHAT we want to do, and HOW we
will do it. Anyone feel free to jump in, as this is a discussion I'd like all
current and prospective campus ambassadors to take part in.
With that out of the way, I have a few questions to ask, and my answers for
them.
nt, I'm going to go ahead and try
1) What do you want to see in the campus ambassador program? What is our
primary goal?
2) How (or should we?) differentiate from the main Fedora Ambassadors program?
3) How should we interract with the Fedora Ambassadors program?
4) What are our next steps?
Thanks and best,
Ryan Rix
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13 years, 8 months
