On 03/30/2016 03:21 AM, Amit Shah wrote:
> On (Mon) 15 Feb 2016 [14:00:13], Justin W. Flory wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> Recently, in FAmNA, we have been discussing a proposed way to revitalize
>> the Campus Ambassadors program.
>> To help finalize the process, I have put together a new draft of the Campus
>> Ambassadors wiki page. It would be great to have others' ideas, thoughts,
>> and feedback about the rewrite.
> This activity is promising to get new contributors and users, so good
> job on getting it going.
> A suggestion I have is we look at a few courses universities offer,
> and what software they recommend for their labs or otherwise. We
> could have a table suggesting FOSS equivalents of popular proprietary
> software that gets used at universities.
Agreed – and in terms of curriculum, there's a few schools across the
world that have open source as part of their curriculum. The Rochester
Institute of Technology in New York has a minor in FOSS, which is
something that can be used as a reference too.
> Also, if we have experts (or even users) of such software
> (e.g. gnuplot), we should invite such experts to write Magazine posts
> about using such software, and also perhaps include a cheatsheet that
> maps workflows from the prorietary sw to the FOSS sw. This can serve
> two purposes: have the Magazine publicise free software (on Fedora),
> and also link these articles to the table on the wiki page with the
> FOSS sw counterparts.
> With this info, when the campus ambassadors go to the univs, they can
> readily suggest software available, and when the campus labs get
> going, students know how to play around with the new(?) environment.
This is all fantastic feedback! To help centralize this discussion down
and prevent mailing list cross-posting, I've created a ticket for this
in the CommOps Trac. You're welcome to CC yourself and/or add some of
your own thoughts and ideas to the ticket!
Justin W. Flory
On 03/18/2016 01:38 PM, Ardian Haxha wrote:
> Hi all,
> I've had a meeting with my college and they gave me a thumbs up for
> organizing events in our college. I've discussed thing more in general,
> thing like what is fedora, what we do etc. I am planning with them to
> organize for now at least one activity per month. They have also asked
> are there any other ways they can help in this process.
This is awesome news! Nice work opening the conversation with your
university. If you haven't already, I would bring this up in an EMEA
meeting or in a ticket to make sure you can help get the support and
guidance of others in your region as well.
> @Justin they addressed one question regarding marketing, is it ok if we
> share a banner with Fedora's logo and their logo too ? the case would be
> in roll up banners.
As far as logo usage goes, you'll want to take that up with Fedora
Legal. I would drop an email to logo(a)fedoraproject.org and explain what
you're doing, why you're doing it, and what context the logo will be
> I will be organizing my first event with them on Tuesday for Google
> Summer of Code, and how the process would be to apply to Fedora.
Guess that's today! Best of luck with the event, and hope all goes well!
If you need any help or advice at the event, feel free to drop a line in
IRC. If I'm online, I'd be glad to help remotely in any way I can.
Again, nice work in putting this together with your university!
Justin W. Flory
On 03/17/2016 02:23 AM, Viorel Tabara wrote:
> On Tue Mar 15 2016 09:36:43 GMT-0600 (MDT) Justin W. Flory <jflory7(a)gmail.com>
>> Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Viorel. Curious, did you also have any
>> ideas on ways that non-academic professionals in academic settings can
>> contribute? I'm assuming this might be like a system administrator at a
>> school, or a similar type of position.
> I'll have to start with a disclaimer: These are my personal thoughts and do not
> represent the views of my employer.
> I do believe that we need to educate the young generation about the values of
> open source and as a professional (I'm not sure if that's a term used across
> all educational institutions or only at AU) I can do that by connecting the
> academic and professional open source advocates with the community  and by
> sharing resources as I come across them . Where Fedora could come in is by
> being *the* platform to make this happen: technically, socially and culturally
> -- more than just a Fedora Ansible-ized OpenStack lab. The logistics of how to
> get there is what most of us technical people may be missing.
The links you shared to Athabasca University's pages were awesome to
read about. :) These are exactly the kinds of things I think we as a
community should be supporting and helping grow.
I completely agree with the points you mentioned. However, when it comes
to finding ways to deploy and implement this in schools, I'm definitely
not an expert nor will I act like I am. Perhaps Remy could chime in on
this specifically because it definitely is within his realm of expertise
from his time at RIT.
I think this thread in itself could make a good topic for the next
Justin W. Flory
On 03/10/2016 10:42 PM, Viorel Tabara wrote:
> On Thu Mar 10 2016 07:59:27 GMT-0700 (MST) Justin W. Flory <jflory7(a)gmail.com>
>> My concerns are whether it would be confusing to keep the students in the
>> same mailing list / agenda planning as faculty members. Both students and
>> faculty may need resources unique from one another in terms of guidance or
>> strategical planning for events.
> I'm not experienced in the ambassadors/marketing field so I'm speaking from a
> non-academic staff perspective: academics who are interested in open source
> will likely want to exchange ideas with their students and look for ways to
> promote FLOSS in their courses. There are also, (some) professionals 
> (non-academic) staff willing to contribute :) So to me keeping all of them on
> the same mailing list would make more sense.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Viorel. Curious, did you also have any
ideas on ways that non-academic professionals in academic settings can
contribute? I'm assuming this might be like a system administrator at a
school, or a similar type of position. I was just curious if you had any
ideas off the top of your head in terms of how they could contribute
within their role.
Justin W. Flory
On 03/08/2016 01:32 PM, Neville A. Cross wrote:
> I think that one thing that may be useful to set as part of the goals
> to try to inspire teachers and staff on campus to become part of
> ambassadors and campus ambassadors.
> The rationale to include this is that a student may spend from 3 to 5
> years in the university depending on the studying program, but a
> teacher or staff may stay at the university longer.
> If the student didn't inspire other students about fedora, fedora's
> presence will end when the student graduates. Besides a teacher or
> staff may have greater audience than a student.
> It may happen that the teacher or staff may be tempted to use fedora
> resources to make their classes or labs more appealing, this may be a
> gray area. Like: "I will teach an extra class with free pizza which
> will be using fedora". I will trust that most of us are for the
> In other hand it may be difficult for some countries this level of
> sponsoring. Most of the reimbursement process is made by paypal. In
> some countries you can not get funds by paypal. Some of the countries
> that you can get the funds you can only used as a electronic wallet and
> you can not cash that money. For some people electronic money is
> useful, but not for all. So we have to be careful to not create
> unrealistic expectations regarding sponsoring.
> Just my two cents on this topic.
Thanks for chiming in on this topic.
I definitely agree that getting teachers and academic faculty involved
as Campus Ambassadors is a crucial and important dynamic. Like you
noted, there is a much larger window for how long the faculty member can
impact youth and introduce a new generation to Linux and Fedora.
I'm trying to think of a way to frame this within the current draft on
the wiki, but I'm thinking maybe it becomes a two-pronged rewrite. There
could be a section for students and another section for teachers /
faculty to get involved as Campus Ambassadors.
My concerns are whether it would be confusing to keep the students in
the same mailing list / agenda planning as faculty members. Both
students and faculty may need resources unique from one another in terms
of guidance or strategical planning for events.
What do you all think about adding the faculty dynamic to the Campus
Justin W. Flory
On 03/03/2016 08:44 AM, Ardian Haxha wrote:
> I've sent some emails with my university, they have invited me for a
> meeting to see what we can do. The wiki that Justin is working looks
> solid for beginning the activity, but having something in final would be
> great. I suggest we get in touch ASAP with marketing and design team and
> start having fliers and banners/logos with the sign of Campus
Took me a lot longer to cycle back on this email than I wanted, but this
is a discussion we should definitely have.
What were your ideas and thoughts on putting together something "final"
to represent the Campus Ambassadors? I am definitely a fan of creating
some fliers or other easily distributable info sheet on the program to
help encourage students at universities to get involved.
As far as internal structure / hierarchy goes, what were your thoughts
on my wiki page draft? Were there any details that seemed questionable
to you or maybe could be reworded? I'm still meaning to edit it and make
the revision that event reports can go on the Community Blog *OR*
personal blogs, as a benefit for personal branding for an Ambassador
(this was discussed in a FAmNA meeting two weeks ago).
For anyone who isn't sure where this draft is, see here:
Other opinions and thoughts are surely welcome on this! Feel free to
chime in if you have ideas or thoughts.
Justin W. Flory