cloud October 2012

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ec2/fedora-18-i386-ec2.ks ec2/fedora-18-x86_64-ec2.ks
by Matthew Miller 12 Oct '12

12 Oct '12

ec2/fedora-18-i386-ec2.ks | 4 ---- ec2/fedora-18-x86_64-ec2.ks | 4 ---- 2 files changed, 8 deletions(-) New commits: commit c64543068369e85dfe13a1f0d1b37fe259a20f07 Author: Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> Date: Thu Oct 11 16:16:09 2012 -0400 creation of ec2-user (and sudo config) is done in new version of cloud-init F18 has version 0.7 of cloud-init which creates the ec2-user (and can use a different name given at boot time). diff --git a/ec2/fedora-18-i386-ec2.ks b/ec2/fedora-18-i386-ec2.ks index a577c35..72393a6 100644 --- a/ec2/fedora-18-i386-ec2.ks +++ b/ec2/fedora-18-i386-ec2.ks @@ -40,10 +40,6 @@ cloud-init # more ec2-ify %post --erroronfail -# create ec2-user -/usr/sbin/useradd ec2-user -/bin/echo -e 'ec2-user\tALL=(ALL)\tNOPASSWD: ALL' >> /etc/sudoers - # fstab mounting is different for x86_64 and i386 cat <<EOL > /etc/fstab LABEL=_/ / ext4 defaults 1 1 diff --git a/ec2/fedora-18-x86_64-ec2.ks b/ec2/fedora-18-x86_64-ec2.ks index 39e9ecd..1ef55f9 100644 --- a/ec2/fedora-18-x86_64-ec2.ks +++ b/ec2/fedora-18-x86_64-ec2.ks @@ -40,10 +40,6 @@ cloud-init # more ec2-ify %post --erroronfail -# create ec2-user -/usr/sbin/useradd ec2-user -/bin/echo -e 'ec2-user\tALL=(ALL)\tNOPASSWD: ALL' >> /etc/sudoers - # fstab mounting is different for x86_64 and i386 cat <<EOL > /etc/fstab LABEL=_/ / ext4 defaults 1 1

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ec2 xen performance issue workaround (still needed, and on x86_64?)
by Matthew Miller 11 Oct '12

11 Oct '12

Our EC2 kickstarts include a workaround for this issue: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=651861 A. It looks like it's incorrect or at least not needed for x86_64 guests (but we have it in our kickstart files for x86_64), so I'm going to remove it. Anyone know otherwise? B. The last few comments on that bug imply that it will eventually be unnecessary as Amazon migrates away from older Xen system with a particular bug. Has, maybe, that happened, two years later? -- Matthew Miller ☁☁☁ Fedora Cloud Architect ☁☁☁ <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>

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boxgrinder/f18
by Matthew Miller 11 Oct '12

11 Oct '12

boxgrinder/f18/fedora18.appl | 14 ++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 14 insertions(+) New commits: commit ec66507815558d0dd2ba98664aa98fd350accdbd Author: Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> Date: Thu Oct 11 16:26:32 2012 -0400 preliminary f18 boxgrinder image diff --git a/boxgrinder/f18/fedora18.appl b/boxgrinder/f18/fedora18.appl new file mode 100644 index 0000000..e3f269a --- /dev/null +++ b/boxgrinder/f18/fedora18.appl @@ -0,0 +1,14 @@ +name: Fedora-18-min +summary: Fedora 18 Minimal +os: + name: fedora + version: 18 + release: 0 +hardware: + partitions: + "/": + size: 10 +packages: + - @core + - pciutils + - kernel

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Thing 1: what do we mean when we say cloud?
by Matthew Miller 10 Oct '12

10 Oct '12

There was some great discussion on this when the list was first launched, but at the time, I don't think the answer was clear, and the group went on with the practical tasks of actually making things work. That's a decent, functional response, but as we embark on a bigger strategic plan, we need a more clear definition of our scope. (Then we can start talking about desired outcomes within that scope, various stakeholders, and so on.) The embryonic Fedora Cloud Guide¹ says Pardon the pun, but "the cloud" is a nebulous term. When well-meaning people talk about cloud computing, they are often talking about one of many difference scenarios. I've put a little jar by my desk, and I'm putting quarters into it every time I say "nebulous", or "hazy", or anything like that. Clearly, "Cloud" is a marketing term *and* a business buzzword, neither of which lend themselves to clarity. But it's also a *very real* change in the computing landscape, and Fedora should take a leadership position in that transition and in the new tech world. Using a clear framework for our scope will help us through the fog. (*Plink* — there goes 25¢) Our Cloud Guide goes on to list Infrastructure as a Service, Platform as a Service, and Software as a Service. That's an important lens, but it's also jumping ahead a bit. The National Institute of Standards and Technology recently published an official definition², and while "government-committee definition" may light up some alarms, this is actually straightforward and fuctional. Once you get past the preamble, there's really only two pages to it. I like this definition because while it's still broad, it focuses on essential characteristics which distinguish cloud computing from datacenter virtualization in general and from "it's on the Internet!" If I haven't lost you already, I encourage you to read the definition. Really, it's short. But if you're hanging on by an attention-span thread, the essentials are: - On demand self-service. - Broad network access. - Resource pooling. - Rapid elasticity. - Measured service. And then it goes on with service models (SaaS, PaaS, IaaS) and deployment models (private, community, public, hybrid). I suggest that Fedora adopt this as our definition, and as the basis for the scope of this SIG. I think this is uncontroversial, but I would like to hear your feedback. Of particular note, work here so far has focused on two primary areas: "JEOS" images³ for Amazon EC2 (and elsewhere), and on software stacks for deploying cloud infrastructure (Eucalyptus, OpenStack) as a cloud provider. This has been great so far, but I also want to open up the SIG to some broader areas as well — those use areas and constituent groups being the topic of future discussion. ---- 1. http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora_Draft_Documentation/0.1/html-sin… 2. http://csrc.nist.gov/publications/nistpubs/800-145/SP800-145.pdf 3. That's "Just Enough Operating System", if you haven't heard the term. -- Matthew Miller ☁☁☁ Fedora Cloud Architect ☁☁☁ <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>

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irc meeting is tomorrow (afternoon europe / morning usa)
by Matthew Miller 09 Oct '12

09 Oct '12

Possibly due to my putting it in the meeting schedule on the wrong day, or possibly just due to first week with the new time, hijinks totally failed to ensuelast week. Let's fix that this time around. :) Times: UTC/GMT 2PM (14:00) Eastern Daylight: 10AM Pacific Daylight: 7AM Central European: 4PM This is in #fedora-meeting-1. For people for whom these times are not convenient, we will have an informal meeting in #fedora-cloud *today* at 20:00 GMT, and I'll also be in the channel tomorrow at the same time for followup. Anyone have any particular agenda items? Things I'm aware of: F18 feature freeze, getting cloud images on mirrors.  -- Matthew Miller ☁☁☁ Fedora Cloud Architect ☁☁☁ <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>

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Packaging Tox for OPenstack unit tests
by Adam Young 09 Oct '12

09 Oct '12

It seems like the use of nose is diverging from what the CI team is doing. According to Monty Taylor: <mordred> ayoung: the CI system uses tox and does not use run_tests or with_venv for anything - this has been the case for almost a year now <mordred> ayoung: we've been doing our best to remove chunks of code like run_tests.py that are just copied amongst all of the projects and all of the branches of the projects Currently, the Keystone unit test code is broken due to running: tools/with_venv.sh nosetests Failure: ImportError (No module named keystone.common) ... ERROR And, while we will deal with this straight away, it looks like the correct longish solution is to use Tox instead of nosetests. Any plans to package this? Should we push to make Tox part of the core Fedora distro, or is there some argument against?

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CloudStack Collaboration Conference
by Joe Brockmeier 05 Oct '12

05 Oct '12

Hi all, Just wanted to give a heads up for folks who might be interested in the CloudStack Collaboration Conference at the end of November. We're hosting it at The Venetian from November 30 to December 2. We'd be interested in any talks that might be related to CloudStack - this would include KVM, Gluster, etc. The CFP is here: http://collab12.cloudstack.org/proposals/ If you have any questions, please let me know. Thanks! Joe -- Joe Brockmeier jzb(a)zonker.net Twitter: @jzb http://www.dissociatedpress.net/

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cloud sig meeting in at 14:00 UTC today (that is, rsn)
by Matthew Miller 03 Oct '12

03 Oct '12

I don't have a particular agenda this week, for which I apologize. I'll make sure to build one in advance in the future. -- Matthew Miller ☁☁☁ Fedora Cloud Architect ☁☁☁ <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>

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rescheduling the cloud sig meeting
by Matthew Miller 03 Oct '12

03 Oct '12

Robyn mentioned to me that the cloud sig meeting isn't at a very convenient time for many people. I'm not a big fan of Friday afternoon meetings, myself, and for the EU people giving up Friday night can't be the most pleasant. Since I'm going to be relieving Robyn of the illustrious duty of facilitating the meeting, I thought this'd be a good time to figure out a time that might work better. I threw up <http://whenisgood.net/fedoracloudmeeting> to help figure out a good time -- if you could take a few seconds to go there and send the times that generally work for you, hopefully we can figure out something better. Thanks! -- Matthew Miller _☁_ Fedora Cloud Architect _☁_ <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>

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About installing oVirt
by Stephen Liu 03 Oct '12

03 Oct '12

Hi all, I'm following; Build and Install Engine RPM http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Build_%26_Install_RPM to install oVirt on Fedora 17, 64bit. However some packages are already obsolete, such as maven2 Then I found; Installing maven http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Building_oVirt_engine Both documents look similar. But which subsequent steps shall I follow? Is there a latest version of document on Fedora project for building oVirt? Please advise. TIA B.R. SL

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