Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the cloud WG meeting Wednesday at 17:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. I think we should primarily focus on the PRD since we agreed earlier that we'd work on getting it done by 12/15.
To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
date -d '2013-12-11 17:00 UTC'
= Followups =
* Final discussion around product branding (https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/3)
* More work on the PRD
If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/cloud, or bring it up at the end of the meeting during the open floor.
I finally found the time to do some testing with the F20 image in HP
Cloud Beta which runs some sort of OpenStack Havana. Here are my
comments (which are obviously very OpenStack centric):
Overall it looks very sound. Good job, Matt!
As mentioned by others, logging could be improved. Currently, only
kernel messages are written to the (serial) console log. If something
goes wrong higher up in the stack (like cloud-init is unable to
contact the metadata service or a crucial initrd process fails) we
can't tell, unless there's access to the virtual console of the
instance which not every cloud operator provides. If we reverse the
'console' options of the kernel command line, we get those messages on
the serial console which helps with debugging boot issues. Also, I'm
not sure how useful the 115200n8 ttyS0 option is, it's a virtual port
after all. Lastly, Ubuntu uses console=tty1 instead of tty0 for
reasons explained in
admit I do not fully understand the impact of using tty1 (first
console) vs tty0 (foreground console) and neither do I think we need
to blindly copy Ubuntu but they are the cloud-init guys after all and
they do provide very solid OpenStack cloud images so it seems like
they know what they're doing :-) Given that, my proposal is to use the
following console kernel command line options: 'console=tty1
I was quite surprised to learn that the image can be enlarged to 2TB.
Other images fail because the ext4 journal is too small. I haven't
looked into it in detail but do you use special parameters when
formatting the root partition?
With the creation of 3 products for Fedora, the Fedora Design Team
anticipates many new questions around Fedora's brand. As the main
caretakers of the Fedora brand, we're going to have to figure these
things out within the next few months. For example, the Design Team is
starting to think about how to answer these types of questions:
• Should each product have its own logo? or
• Can you add our product to the Fedora website? or
• Can you make our product its own website? (How should we represent
these products on the website? Should we allow products to have their
own separate websites?)
To start off the rebranding discussion, the Fedora Design Team has 4
basic questions for each of the 3 product-focused working groups to answer:
(1) What problem does your product solve, in one sentence?
(2) Who is the target audience for your product, in one sentence?
(3) List at least 5 products that successfully target the same target
audience you are after.
(4) List at least 5 products that try to solve the same problem.
We are reaching out to each group individually to ask that you discuss
these questions and come back to us with answers by Wednesday, December
I was hoping you could answer these questions for the cloud product;
please let me know if this isn't a reasonable timeline or if you need
any help coming up with the answers!
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Final TC5 images have been uploaded to EC2 and are available at
ami-f9755890 : us-east-1 image for i386
ami-1d7a5774 : us-east-1 image for x86_64
additionally if your looking to the AMI's they have been added to files
in the release tree
when we get to final and the images are uploaded to all regions
they will all be listed and the file will be gpg signed in the final
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The web team asked me to come up with a blurb for a slide on
Cloud Computing with Fedora
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Matthew Miller ☁☁☁ Fedora Cloud Architect ☁☁☁ <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>
Since we deferred this to the mailing list during the meeting, I'm
starting the thread here on the list...
So... let's discuss. :-)
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