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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora Cloud Workgroup
by Haïkel 10 Sep '14

10 Sep '14

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora Cloud Workgroup on 2014-09-12 from 17:00:00 to 18:00:00 UTC At fedora-meeting(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Standing meeting for the Fedora Cloud Workgroup. Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar//meeting/1203/

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Fedora Atomic / Infrastructure check-in minutes for 9 September 2014
by Joe Brockmeier 09 Sep '14

09 Sep '14

=============== #atomic Meeting =============== Meeting started by jzb at 20:04:18 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/atomic/2014-09-09/atomic.2014-09-09-20.04.… . Meeting summary --------------- * LINK: https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/releng/tree/scripts/buildbranched and https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/releng/tree/scripts/buildrawhide (nirik, 20:11:12) * note, we are producing Atomic images regularly in test composes, not yet in nightlies (stickster, 20:13:06) * Help is needed patching the compose scripts! (stickster, 20:16:16) * LINK: https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/releng/tree/scripts/run-pungi (stickster, 20:16:44) * LINK: https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/releng/tree/scripts/buildbranched (stickster, 20:16:49) * LINK: https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/releng/tree/scripts/buildrawhide (stickster, 20:16:55) * metalink XML, mirroring (walters, 20:20:10) * http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=576104 should support metalinks and has a new "summary" file (stickster, 20:21:07) * ACTION: oddshocks work on adding Atomic to releng scripts (jzb, 20:41:49) * open floor (jzb, 20:50:35) Meeting ended at 21:01:41 UTC. Action Items ------------ * oddshocks work on adding Atomic to releng scripts Action Items, by person ----------------------- * oddshocks * oddshocks work on adding Atomic to releng scripts * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * jzb (48) * walters (42) * stickster (25) * nirik (18) * dustymabe (15) * oddshocks (10) * zodbot (7) * roshi (2) * number80 (1) * dgilmore (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud & Storage Analyst jzb(a)redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/

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comps, kickstart and spin fixes/changes for F21 Cloud
by Ian McLeod 09 Sep '14

09 Sep '14

All, At the last SIG meeting I agreed to have a go at fixing up the cloud spin and the associated kickstarts. As I understand it, this means: * Changes to comps - Specifically adding a group that carries the necessary enabling packages that need to be in the cloud image * Changes to the cloud kickstarts - To use the above comps groups, rather than individual packages * Changes to the spin/install file - To pull in the enabling packages needed in the cloud image builds, so that the images can be built successfully using the Cloud install tree With the above in mind, here is my work so far (on github because they do such a nice job of rendering diffs, and because I don't have commit access to the Fedora repos): * comps changes - https://github.com/imcleod/comps-imcleod/compare/feature/cloud-updates * kickstart and spin changes - https://github.com/imcleod/spin-kickstarts/compare/feature/cloud-changes Thoughts? If these are acceptable, and given that the existing cloud tree is, apparently, broken, can we push out the changes and then deal with any follow on issues as they show up in the nightly builds? -Ian

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2014-09-10 @ 16:00 UTC ** F21 Blocker Review
by Mike Ruckman 09 Sep '14

09 Sep '14

# F21 Blocker Review meeting # Date: 2014-09-10 # Time: 16:00 UTC (12:00 EDT, 09:00 PDT) # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.net It's everyones favorite time of the week! Our next blocker review meeting will be this Wednesday (as usual). As of right now, we have 2 proposed blockers and 4 proposed freeze exceptions. Hopefully this week we have a good turnout and finish these up quickly :) If you want to take a look at the accepted blockers, the full list can be found here: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/21/alpha/buglist We'll be evaluating these bugs to see if they violate the Alpha Release Criteria and warrant the blocking of a release if they're not fixed. Information on the release criteria for F21 can be found on the wiki [0]. Product specific plans are still being solidified, but that should be sorted quickly. For more information about the Blocker and Freeze exception process, check out these links: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_freeze_exception_bug_process And for those of you who are curious how a Blocker Review Meeting works - or how it's supposed to go and you want to run one - check out the SOP on the wiki: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting See you Wednesday! [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria -- // Mike -- Fedora QA freenode: roshi http://roshi.fedorapeople.org

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[Base] Terminology for docker/atomic images
by Dusty Mabe 08 Sep '14

08 Sep '14

Hi All, Per discussion in the #fedora-cloud meeting last Friday I would like to start a thread about the names of the Docker and Atomic deliverables for F21. I know of at least a few cases where there has been confusion regarding what deliverable has been the subject of a conversation on IRC as a result of the current terminology. I've seen the docker and atomic referred to as: Docker Image Atomic Image Docker Host Image etc... It seems like the one that sparks the most confusion is "Docker Image". Usually when I see "Image" I think a VM bootable image (i.e. virtualization, not containers/Docker). A progression from that misunderstanding could lead one to think that "Docker Image" is the VM disk image I can use to boot a host that will run the Docker daemon and thus run containers. I think it would be nice to help ourselves and our users along by separating the terminology a bit such that it is hard to confuse what is a VM disk image vs. what is an image for use with Docker. Here is a first stab at trying to make things clearer: Docker Container Image - base container image - can be used with docker Atomic Image - minimal OS, Atomic updates, aka 'Docker Host' In a nutshell, it would be great if we added "Container" to references we make to the container image (in conversation and docs). Thoughts? Dusty

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do we need an "environment" in the comps group for cloud?
by Matthew Miller 05 Sep '14

05 Sep '14

In the IRC meeting today, we talked about some needed changes to the comps file and spin kickstarts. Dennis mentioned that having an an "environment" defined would allow people to manually select the cloud packageset in Anaconda. On thinking about this, I think we actually _don't_ want this -- if people are building their own images, using a kickstart file and automated process is really the right way, and on the other side, we don't want people accidentally installing cloud-init on their laptops (possibly thinking that the environment means remote cloud storage or calendaring/mail features or something like that). -- Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader

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Cloud SIG Meeting Minutes (2014-09-05)
by Haïkel 05 Sep '14

05 Sep '14

====================================== #fedora-meeting: Cloud WG (2014-09-05) ====================================== Meeting started by number80 at 17:05:39 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-09-05/fedora-meeting.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Coordinate F21 / fedora next website (number80, 17:08:21) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/36 (number80, 17:08:29) * LINK: http://stg.fedoraproject.org/en/get-prerelease#cloud (mattdm, 17:08:43) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-websites/ticket/267 (mattdm, 17:09:02) * staging website: http://stg.fedoraproject.org/en/get-prerelease#cloud (number80, 17:11:05) * related ticket https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-websites/ticket/267 (number80, 17:11:18) * Atomic Image (number80, 17:11:28) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/64 (number80, 17:11:35) * agrimm has a working vagrant & cloud image (still figuring out the full workflow) (number80, 17:17:14) * LINK: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=7531371 (dgilmore, 17:36:21) * Fedora Atomic TC6 image (should be, you know... testable!) http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=7531374 (mattdm, 17:37:31) * ACTION: imcleod to generate comps, spin kickstart and environments changes as needed to get the required cloud packages into the Cloud spin (mattdm, 17:45:23) * HELP: documentation for making custom images would be nice (mattdm, 17:52:10) * next steps on test plan (number80, 17:55:28) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/61 (number80, 17:55:36) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Roshi/QA/Cloud_Docs (roshi, 17:56:19) * HELP: everyone look at roshi's test plan! (mattdm, 17:56:30) * HELP: add test cases for Atomic Host image (number80, 17:57:48) * HELP: we hould plan a test day with the base wg for running the docker base image in atomic (mattdm, 18:00:26) * ACTION: jzb plan test days for Atomic image, base docker image (jzb, 18:01:25) * ACTION: dustymabe start a discussion on terminology (docker/atomic) on the cloud m-l (number80, 18:04:14) * Automatic Smoketests on Image Build (number80, 18:06:14) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/38 (number80, 18:06:22) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Roshi/QA/Cloud_Docs/what_to_test (roshi, 18:08:29) * for the time being we can do manual tests and automagic tests as we have them, and report in the wiki as usual (mattdm, 18:17:42) * start communication/collaboration on cloud image updates (number80, 18:22:09) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/51 (number80, 18:22:16) * agrimm has some good info in the ticket (mattdm, 18:23:51) * HELP: more suggestions for cases where an update should be created would be helpful (mattdm, 18:26:36) * HELP: more discussion in the ticket please (mattdm, 18:30:52) * Process for determining when and why Docker trusted images need to be rebuilt (number80, 18:31:32) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/59 (number80, 18:31:37) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/cloud/2014-September/004194.html (dustymabe, 18:35:37) * ACTION: number80 close ticket #65 (number80, 18:37:59) * openfloor (number80, 18:38:53) * Weekly Atomic meeting in #atomic on tuesdays 20:00 UTC (number80, 18:40:40) * LINK: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar//meeting/738/ (oddshocks, 18:40:44) Meeting ended at 18:42:25 UTC. Action Items ------------ * imcleod to generate comps, spin kickstart and environments changes as needed to get the required cloud packages into the Cloud spin * jzb plan test days for Atomic image, base docker image * dustymabe start a discussion on terminology (docker/atomic) on the cloud m-l * number80 close ticket #65 Action Items, by person ----------------------- * dustymabe * dustymabe start a discussion on terminology (docker/atomic) on the cloud m-l * imcleod * imcleod to generate comps, spin kickstart and environments changes as needed to get the required cloud packages into the Cloud spin * jzb * jzb plan test days for Atomic image, base docker image * number80 * number80 close ticket #65 * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * number80 (80) * roshi (79) * mattdm (65) * jzb (46) * dgilmore (44) * dustymabe (21) * oddshocks (18) * agrimm (16) * imcleod (13) * zodbot (12) * geppetto (4) * jsmith (2) * adamw (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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[cloud] #65: crucial questions on Docker image deliverable
by Fedora Cloud Trac Tickets 05 Sep '14

05 Sep '14

#65: crucial questions on Docker image deliverable -----------------------------------+-------------------------------- Reporter: mattdm | Owner: Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 21 (Branch) Component: Docker Base Container | Keywords: meeting -----------------------------------+-------------------------------- Adam W asks some excellent questions here: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-June/199579.html > What "Fedora" exactly is the image going to contain? Fedora Server? > Fedora Cloud? Will it be a part of either of those products? If not, > what is its status, exactly? Who's responsible for it? Is it considered > a primary or frontline or whatever Fedora deliverable? Who's going to > test it? How's it going to be promoted in relation to all our other > deliverables? I gave some tentative answers, but let's get them answered definitively. -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/65> cloud <https://fedorahosted.org/cloud> Fedora Cloud Working Group Ticketing System

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Cloud SIG Meeting Minutes (2014-08-29)
by Haïkel 03 Sep '14

03 Sep '14

======================= #fedora-meeting Meeting ======================= Meeting started by jzb at 17:03:21 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-08-29/fedora-meeting.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (jzb, 17:03:27) * Trac tickets (jzb, 17:07:31) * Automatic Smoketests on Image Build (jzb, 17:09:05) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/38 (jzb, 17:09:11) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/report/9?sort=ticket&asc=1&page=1 (jzb, 17:10:18) * ACTION: agrimm discuss ticket #38 with roshi and report back to ticket/mailing list. (jzb, 17:11:17) * start communication/collaboration on cloud image updates (jzb, 17:11:30) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/51 (jzb, 17:11:40) * ACTION: agrimm will meet with roshi on ticket #51 and report back to list/ticket. (jzb, 17:14:24) * Process for determining when and why Docker trusted images need to be rebuilt (jzb, 17:15:24) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/59 (jzb, 17:15:32) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud/Cloud_RFC_Docker_Trusted_Images_Rebuil… (jzb, 17:16:18) * next steps on test plan (jzb, 17:17:52) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/61 (jzb, 17:18:06) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Roshi/QA/Cloud_Docs (jzb, 17:19:50) * ACTION: jzb to invite adamw to next week's meeting, make sure we have something to look over. (jzb, 17:23:23) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Roshi/QA/Cloud_Docs/Test_Overview (roshi, 17:25:21) * tracker for Project Atomic (jzb, 17:27:03) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/64 (jzb, 17:27:13) * crucial questions on Docker image deliverable (jzb, 17:30:48) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/65 (jzb, 17:30:55) * ACTION: roshi will take ticket 65 and get answers, report back, and probably re-assign once we know what's left to do. (jzb, 17:42:22) * open floor (jzb, 17:42:35) * HELP: Testers wanted for new python3-boto package in updates-testing (gholms, 17:43:06) * ACTION: number80 help dustymabe on digitalocean (number80, 17:43:45) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/cloud/2014-August/004165.html (dustymabe, 17:47:21) Meeting ended at 17:57:33 UTC. Action Items ------------ * agrimm discuss ticket #38 with roshi and report back to ticket/mailing list. * agrimm will meet with roshi on ticket #51 and report back to list/ticket. * jzb to invite adamw to next week's meeting, make sure we have something to look over. * roshi will take ticket 65 and get answers, report back, and probably re-assign once we know what's left to do. * number80 help dustymabe on digitalocean Action Items, by person ----------------------- * adamw * jzb to invite adamw to next week's meeting, make sure we have something to look over. * agrimm * agrimm discuss ticket #38 with roshi and report back to ticket/mailing list. * agrimm will meet with roshi on ticket #51 and report back to list/ticket. * dustymabe * number80 help dustymabe on digitalocean * jzb * jzb to invite adamw to next week's meeting, make sure we have something to look over. * number80 * number80 help dustymabe on digitalocean * roshi * agrimm discuss ticket #38 with roshi and report back to ticket/mailing list. * agrimm will meet with roshi on ticket #51 and report back to list/ticket. * roshi will take ticket 65 and get answers, report back, and probably re-assign once we know what's left to do. * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * jzb (124) * roshi (53) * dustymabe (22) * agrimm (20) * zodbot (14) * gholms (13) * frankieonuonga (13) * oddshocks (7) * number80 (6) * adamw (3) * geppetto (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora Cloud Workgroup
by Haïkel 03 Sep '14

03 Sep '14

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora Cloud Workgroup on 2014-09-05 from 17:00:00 to 18:00:00 UTC At fedora-meeting(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Standing meeting for the Fedora Cloud Workgroup. Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar//meeting/482/

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