August 2016 - cloud - Fedora Mailing-Lists

Re: [atomic-devel] Moving towards containerized Kube/layered packages

by Dusty Mabe

Adding fedora cloud list. On 08/22/2016 10:13 AM, Colin Walters wrote: > Hi, I'd like to propose a fairly fundamental rework of Atomic Host. TL;DR: > > - Move towards "system containers" (or layered packages) for flannel/etcd > - Move towards containers (system, or Docker) for kubernetes-master > - Move towards layered packages for kubernetes-node and storage (ceph/gluster) > > In progress PR: > > https://github.com/CentOS/sig-atomic-buildscripts/pull/144 > > There are advantages to this and disadvantages; I think we'll have some > short term transition pain, but past that short term the advantages > outweigh the disadvantages a lot. > > == Advantage: Version flexibility == > > etcd for should really have its own identity in a clustered environment, and > not necessarily roll fowards/backwards with the underlying host version. I've > had users report things like hitting an e.g. Kubernetes or Docker issue and rolling back their > host, which rolled back etcd as well, but the store isn't forwards-compatible, > which then breaks. There's also a transition to etcd2 coming, which again > one should really manage distinct from host upgrades. > > Another major example is that while we chose to include Kubernetes in > the host, it's a fast moving project, and many people want to use a newer > version, or a different distribution like OpenShift. The version flexibility > also applies to other components like Ceph/Gluster and flannel. > > == Advantage: Size and fit to purpose == > > We included things like the Ceph and GlusterFS drivers in the base > host, but that was before we had layered packages, and there's > also continuing progress on containerized drivers. If one is using > an existing IaaS environment like OpenStack or AWS, many users > want to reuse Cinder/AWS, rather than maintaining their own storage. > > Similarly, while flannel is a good general purpose tool, there are > lots of alternatives, and some users already have existing SDN solutions. > > == Disadvantage: More assembly required == > > This is a superficial disadvantage I think - in practice, since we didn't > pick a single official installation/upgrade system (like OpenShift has > openshift-ansible), if you want to run a Kubernetes cluster, you need > to do a lot of assembly anyways. Adding a bit more to that I suspect > isn't going to be too bad for most users. > > Down the line I'd like to revisit the installation/upgrade story - there's > work happening upstream in > https://github.com/kubernetes/contrib/tree/master/ansible > and I think there's also interest and some work in > having parts of openshift-ansible be available for baseline Kubernetes > and accessible on Galaxy etc. > > == Disadvantage: Dependency on new tooling == > > Both `rpm-ostree pkg-add` and `atomic install --system` are pretty new. > They both could use better documentation, more real world testing, and > in particular haven't gained management tool awareness yet (for example, they need > better Ansible support). > > == Summary == > > If people agree, I'd like to merge the PR pretty soon and do a new CentOS AH Alpha, > and we can collaborate on updating docs/tools around this. For Fedora...it's > probably simplest to leave 24 alone and just do 25 for now. > > What I'd like to focus on is having AH be more of a good "building block" > rather than positioning it as a complete solution. We ensure that the base > Docker/kernel/SELinux/systemd block works together, system management tools > work, and look at working more in the upstream Kubernetes (and OpenShift) > communities, particularly around Ansible. >

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Invitation: Fedora Release Tools Demo (Live Broadcast) @ Tue Aug 23, 2016 12pm - 1pm (EDT) (acarter@redhat.com)

by Amanda Carter

You have been invited to the following event. Title: Fedora Release Tools Demo (Live Broadcast) Hangout: https://plus.google.com/events/c01barsqi2mg2bb7qsihbntbj5c The hangout will be broadcast live & posted: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lM9E9WBmU4 Q&A - fedora-meeting-1(a)irc.freenode.net -- Purpose: The purpose of a demo is to show our stakeholders what we completed this iteration, get feedback from them about the changes & set some context and expectation with them about our direction. Demo agenda & previous demos can be viewed here: http://taiga.fedorainfracloud.org/project/acarter-fedora-docker-atomic-to... Highlights today: https://taiga.fedorainfracloud.org/project/acarter-fedora-docker-atomic-t... When: Tue Aug 23, 2016 12pm – 1pm Eastern Time Where: Hangout on Air / YouTube live stream Calendar: acarter(a)redhat.com Who: (Guest list is too large to display) Event details: https://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=bzE5MWs3OWtzNWc0NjF... Invitation from Google Calendar: https://www.google.com/calendar/ You are receiving this courtesy email at the account cloud(a)lists.fedoraproject.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future updates for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google account at https://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar. Forwarding this invitation could allow any recipient to modify your RSVP response. Learn more at https://support.google.com/calendar/answer/37135#forwarding

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Add mdadm to Fedora Atomic Host

by Dusty Mabe

We need to add mdadm to Fedora Atomic Host so that we can support software raid disk setups. https://pagure.io/fedora-atomic/pull-request/8

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Cloud Meeting Minutes 2016-08-17

by Sayan Chowdhury

================================== #fedora-meeting-1: fedora_cloud_wg ================================== Meeting started by sayan at 17:01:40 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2016-08-17/fedora_clou... . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (sayan, 17:01:48) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud/Cloud_PRD (jbrooks, 17:17:22) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fork/walters/workstation-ostree-config/branch/f24-conti... (kushal, 17:21:53) * ACTION: kushal to start off the atomic workgroup discussion on mailing list (kushal, 17:28:05) * Action items from last meeting (sayan, 17:28:42) * ACTION: rtnpro will add test workflow (and test cases) for testing fedora-motd on F24 atomic image (sayan, 17:30:12) * ACTION: kushal to write to infra for permission to update Autocloud tests while in freeze (sayan, 17:31:38) * Fedora-Dockerfiles examples for Kubernetes https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/125 (sayan, 17:32:04) * vagrant boxes fixups https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/136 (sayan, 17:34:26) * Don't overwrite download location for 2 week atomic images https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/147 (sayan, 17:35:50) * design, deploy and document Fedora OpenShift Playground (FOSP) https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/153 (sayan, 17:39:27) * make Fedora Atomic download page clearer https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/154 (sayan, 17:42:26) * Decide on post-GA update cadence for various deliverables https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/155 (sayan, 17:44:51) * Need complete Kickstart docs for Atomic Host https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/156 (sayan, 17:50:16) * Ship fedora-motd in F24 atomic image https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/160 (sayan, 17:53:10) * Decide a process about failed tests for Autocloud https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/167 (sayan, 17:54:59) * Put OpenShift Origin in Container with Fedora Base https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/168 (sayan, 17:55:36) * Open Floor (sayan, 17:56:07) * LINK: http://fedoracloud.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ (kushal, 17:56:53) * ACTION: gholms to test updated cloud-init on f24 for f25 (gholms, 17:57:36) Meeting ended at 18:01:19 UTC. Action Items ------------ * kushal to start off the atomic workgroup discussion on mailing list * rtnpro will add test workflow (and test cases) for testing fedora-motd on F24 atomic image * kushal to write to infra for permission to update Autocloud tests while in freeze * gholms to test updated cloud-init on f24 for f25 Action Items, by person ----------------------- * gholms * gholms to test updated cloud-init on f24 for f25 * kushal * kushal to start off the atomic workgroup discussion on mailing list * kushal to write to infra for permission to update Autocloud tests while in freeze * rtnpro * rtnpro will add test workflow (and test cases) for testing fedora-motd on F24 atomic image People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * sayan (51) * kushal (46) * jberkus (27) * zodbot (24) * jbrooks (22) * maxamillion (22) * gholms (9) * x3mboy (9) * jzb (8) * vvaldez (5) * scollier (4) * dustymabe (4) * nzwulfin (3) * rtnpro (3) * walters (3) * trishnag (2) * bowlofeggs (1) -- Sayan Chowdhury <https://sayanchowdhury.dgplug.org/> Senior Software Engineer, Fedora Engineering - Emerging Platform GPG Fingerprint : 0F16 E841 E517 225C 7D13 AB3C B023 9931 9CD0 5C8B Proud to work at The Open Organization!

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora Cloud Workgroup

by Dusty Mabe

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora Cloud Workgroup on 2016-08-17 from 17:00:00 to 18:00:00 UTC At fedora-meeting-1(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Standing meeting for the Fedora Cloud Workgroup Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/1999/

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Fedora Atomic Host Two Week Release Announcement

by noreply＠fedoraproject.org

A new update of Fedora Cloud Atomic Host has been released and can be downloaded at: Images can be found here: https://getfedora.org/en/cloud/download/atomic.html Respective signed CHECKSUM files can be found here: https://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/atomic/stable/CloudImages/x86_64/im... https://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/atomic/stable/Atomic/x86_64/iso/Fed... Thank you, Fedora Release Engineering

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Fedora Cloud SIG Minutes - 8/10/2016

by Scott Collier

https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2016-08-10/fedora_clou... #fedora-meeting-1: fedora_cloud_wg Meeting started by scollier at 17:00:56 UTC (full logs). Meeting summary Roll Call (scollier, 17:01:02) Ticket https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/125 (scollier, 17:04:41) Ticket https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/136 (scollier, 17:05:18) Ticket https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/147 (scollier, 17:06:17) Ticket https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/151 (scollier, 17:11:22) Ticket https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/153 (scollier, 17:13:51) Ticket https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/155 (scollier, 17:15:37) Ticket https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/160 (scollier, 17:31:33) Ticket https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/167 (scollier, 17:38:31) ACTION: rtnpro will add test workflow (and test cases) for testing fedora-motd on F24 atomic image (rtnpro, 17:39:05) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1353688 (trishnag, 17:41:42) Open Floor (scollier, 17:49:45) ACTION: kushal to write to infra for permission to update Autocloud tests while in freeze (kushal, 17:54:38) http://dustymabe.com/2014/09/08/capture-elusive-cloud-init-debug-output-w... (dustymabe, 18:00:28) Meeting ended at 18:01:02 UTC (full logs). Action items rtnpro will add test workflow (and test cases) for testing fedora-motd on F24 atomic image kushal to write to infra for permission to update Autocloud tests while in freeze Action items, by person kushal kushal to write to infra for permission to update Autocloud tests while in freeze rtnpro rtnpro will add test workflow (and test cases) for testing fedora-motd on F24 atomic image People present (lines said) scollier (79) dustymabe (79) maxamillion (46) kushal (43) jbrooks_ (35) zodbot (20) rtnpro (17) gholms (15) trishnag (8) bowlofeggs (2) sayan (2) jbrooks (0)

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[cloud] #151: Need owner to define basic container smoke testing requirements

by Fedora Cloud Trac Tickets

#151: Need owner to define basic container smoke testing requirements ---------------------+--------------------- Reporter: acarter | Owner: Type: task | Status: new Priority: normal | Milestone: Future Component: --- | Keywords: meeting ---------------------+--------------------- The release tooling team will begin shipping layered images officially in F25. As part of that, we'll be creating an automated release workflow that includes testing via Taskotron. In order to scope Taskotron requirements, we need to know the core testing requirements are for basic smoke testing that will be shared across containers. We need an owner to define those tests initially. I'd also like to know whether that person would continue to own them going forward or if ownership would fall to the group or another individual at that time. This should be done soon so that we can scope Taskotron work. Note: Kushal has noted that the owner should be sure to discuss with the internal Container Certification team -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/151> cloud <https://fedorahosted.org/cloud> Fedora Cloud Working Group Ticketing System

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora Cloud Workgroup

by Dusty Mabe

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora Cloud Workgroup on 2016-08-10 from 17:00:00 to 18:00:00 UTC At fedora-meeting-1(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Standing meeting for the Fedora Cloud Workgroup Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/1999/

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[cloud] #166: RFE : vagrant user with id=1000

by Fedora Cloud Trac Tickets

#166: RFE : vagrant user with id=1000 ---------------------+-------------------- Reporter: langdon | Owner: Type: task | Status: new Priority: normal | Milestone: Future Component: --- | Keywords: ---------------------+-------------------- Gnome default user ID is 1000. Vagrant box uses 1001 for vagrant user. When NFS mounting, I have to chown from one user to the other. Would be handy if the vagrant user was also 1000. -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/166> cloud <https://fedorahosted.org/cloud> Fedora Cloud Working Group Ticketing System

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