Fedora EC2 Amis: SriovNetSupport

[milanisko k]

Hello list,

I'd like to ask about the status/plan of SriovNet support[1] for Fedora
Amazon images.
I was able to set this up manually for recent F21 ami ami-5cd9ea41, but it
is quite an inconvenient experience --- one has to instantiate, stop, set
attribute value through the CLI tool and start again to enable the feature.
Would it be possible to register future Fedora amis with the enhanced
networking flag enabled[1]?
As far as motivation is concerned, please check the blog post[2] for some
performance evaluation.

Thanks,
milan


[1]
http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/enhanced-networking.html
[2]
http://blogs.scalablelogic.com/2014/01/enhanced-networking-in-aws-cloud-p...

[Garrett Holmstrom]

On 2015-03-19 9:11, milanisko k wrote:
>  I'd like to ask about the status/plan of SriovNet support[1] for
> Fedora
>  Amazon images.
>  I was able to set this up manually for recent F21 ami ami-5cd9ea41, but
>  it is quite an inconvenient experience --- one has to instantiate, stop,
>  set attribute value through the CLI tool and start again to enable the
>  feature.
>  Would it be possible to register future Fedora amis with the enhanced
>  networking flag enabled[1]?
>  As far as motivation is concerned, please check the blog post[2] for
>  some performance evaluation. 
Since that only works for some types of instances it wouldn't make sense 
to do that for all images, but registering a separate image (from the 
same bundle/snapshot) with that enabled would be reasonable.

-- 
Garrett Holmstrom

[milanisko k]

That would be one way.
However, since it actually is a majority of the instance types[1] that
support this feature, I'd vote to make it the default.
That's unless it prevents using/booting the "small" instances of course,
what AFAIK isn't the case --- I was able to create a snapshot ami from an
F21 instance,
register it with the sriov flag and boot both a t2 and an r3 instances
without any issue and confirmed the sriov flag was in effect on the r3
instance.
The only limit I know of is the ami has to be HVM[2].
Moreover, the feature is for free, no extra charges apply so why not to
take advantage of lower latencies on the instances.

Cheers,
milan

[1] Enhanced Networking Support, The Instance Types Matrix,
http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/instance-types/
[2] Enabling Enhanced Networking on Other Linux Distributions,
http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/enhanced-networking.html



2015-03-19 18:39 GMT+01:00 Garrett Holmstrom <gholms(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:

>  On 2015-03-19 9:11, milanisko k wrote:
>
> > I'd like to ask about the status/plan of SriovNet support[1] for Fedora
> > Amazon images.
> > I was able to set this up manually for recent F21 ami ami-5cd9ea41, but
> > it is quite an inconvenient experience --- one has to instantiate, stop,
> > set attribute value through the CLI tool and start again to enable the
> > feature.
> > Would it be possible to register future Fedora amis with the enhanced
> > networking flag enabled[1]?
> > As far as motivation is concerned, please check the blog post[2] for
> > some performance evaluation.
> >
>
>  Since that only works for some types of instances it wouldn't make sense
>  to do that for all images, but registering a separate image (from the same
>  bundle/snapshot) with that enabled would be reasonable.
>
>  --
>  Garrett Holmstrom
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[David Gay]

----- Original Message -----
>  From: "milanisko k" <vetrisko(a)gmail.com&gt;
>  To: "Fedora Cloud SIG" <cloud(a)lists.fedoraproject.org&gt;
>  Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 7:52:21 AM
>  Subject: Re: Fedora EC2 Amis: SriovNetSupport
>  
>  That would be one way.
>  However, since it actually is a majority of the instance types[1] that
>  support this feature, I'd vote to make it the default.
>  That's unless it prevents using/booting the "small" instances of course,
>  what AFAIK isn't the case --- I was able to create a snapshot ami from an F21
>  instance,
>  register it with the sriov flag and boot both a t2 and an r3 instances
>  without any issue and confirmed the sriov flag was in effect on the r3
>  instance.
>  The only limit I know of is the ami has to be HVM[2].
>  Moreover, the feature is for free, no extra charges apply so why not to take
>  advantage of lower latencies on the instances.
>  
>  Cheers,
>  milan
>  
>  [1] Enhanced Networking Support, The Instance Types Matrix,
>  http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/instance-types/
>  [2] Enabling Enhanced Networking on Other Linux Distributions,
>  http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/enhanced-networking.html
>  
>  
>  
>  2015-03-19 18:39 GMT+01:00 Garrett Holmstrom < gholms(a)fedoraproject.org > :
>  
>  
>  On 2015-03-19 9 :11, milanisko k wrote:
>  
>  
>  I'd like to ask about the status/plan of SriovNet support[1] for Fedora
>  Amazon images.
>  I was able to set this up manually for recent F21 ami ami-5cd9ea41, but
>  it is quite an inconvenient experience --- one has to instantiate, stop,
>  set attribute value through the CLI tool and start again to enable the
>  feature.
>  Would it be possible to register future Fedora amis with the enhanced
>  networking flag enabled[1]?
>  As far as motivation is concerned, please check the blog post[2] for
>  some performance evaluation.
>  
>  Since that only works for some types of instances it wouldn't make sense to
>  do that for all images, but registering a separate image (from the same
>  bundle/snapshot) with that enabled would be reasonable.
>  
>  --
>  Garrett Holmstrom
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I'm responsible for Fedimg which uploads our AMIs. Seems to be a reasonable thing to
get people's opinions on. Do you *have* to start the instance up then stop it and do
all the stuff at [1]? If that has to be done for every HVM upload we provide, that might
add some significant time and oddness to the automatic upload process. I don't see a
way to just simply toggle a flag at AMI registration time, but then again, I'm not
familiar with enhanced networking on AWS.

-- David

[1]:
http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/enhanced-networking.ht...
under "Enabling Enhanced Networking on Other Linux Distributions"

[milanisko k]

That isn't necessary. Suffices to register an hvm ami with the  "--sriov
simple" switch[1].

Having registered a copy--ami, I needn't change any modules/boot options
configuration.
The ixgbevf driver was loaded automatically upon boot of supported instance
type (r3) and the network interface was operational out of the box.
Same ami worked without any changes on non-supported instance type (t2)
where the vif driver was picked by default.


Cheers,
milan

[1] ec2-register command, Par: To enabled enhanced networking (instance
store–backed instances),
http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/enhanced-networking.ht...

2015-03-24 23:21 GMT+01:00 David Gay <dgay(a)redhat.com&gt;:

>  ----- Original Message -----
>  > From: "milanisko k" <vetrisko(a)gmail.com&gt;
>  > To: "Fedora Cloud SIG" <cloud(a)lists.fedoraproject.org&gt;
>  > Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 7:52:21 AM
>  > Subject: Re: Fedora EC2 Amis: SriovNetSupport
>  >
>  > That would be one way.
>  > However, since it actually is a majority of the instance types[1] that
>  > support this feature, I'd vote to make it the default.
>  > That's unless it prevents using/booting the "small" instances of
> course,
>  > what AFAIK isn't the case --- I was able to create a snapshot ami from
>  an F21
>  > instance,
>  > register it with the sriov flag and boot both a t2 and an r3 instances
>  > without any issue and confirmed the sriov flag was in effect on the r3
>  > instance.
>  > The only limit I know of is the ami has to be HVM[2].
>  > Moreover, the feature is for free, no extra charges apply so why not to
>  take
>  > advantage of lower latencies on the instances.
>  >
>  > Cheers,
>  > milan
>  >
>  > [1] Enhanced Networking Support, The Instance Types Matrix,
>  > http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/instance-types/
>  > [2] Enabling Enhanced Networking on Other Linux Distributions,
>  >
>  http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/enhanced-networking.html
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > 2015-03-19 18:39 GMT+01:00 Garrett Holmstrom < gholms(a)fedoraproject.org
>  > :
>  >
>  >
>  > On 2015-03-19 9 :11, milanisko k wrote:
>  >
>  >
>  > I'd like to ask about the status/plan of SriovNet support[1] for Fedora
>  > Amazon images.
>  > I was able to set this up manually for recent F21 ami ami-5cd9ea41, but
>  > it is quite an inconvenient experience --- one has to instantiate, stop,
>  > set attribute value through the CLI tool and start again to enable the
>  > feature.
>  > Would it be possible to register future Fedora amis with the enhanced
>  > networking flag enabled[1]?
>  > As far as motivation is concerned, please check the blog post[2] for
>  > some performance evaluation.
>  >
>  > Since that only works for some types of instances it wouldn't make sense
>  to
>  > do that for all images, but registering a separate image (from the same
>  > bundle/snapshot) with that enabled would be reasonable.
>  >
>  > --
>  > Garrett Holmstrom
>  > ______________________________ _________________
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>  >
>
>  I'm responsible for Fedimg which uploads our AMIs. Seems to be a
>  reasonable thing to get people's opinions on. Do you *have* to start the
>  instance up then stop it and do all the stuff at [1]? If that has to be
>  done for every HVM upload we provide, that might add some significant time
>  and oddness to the automatic upload process. I don't see a way to just
>  simply toggle a flag at AMI registration time, but then again, I'm not
>  familiar with enhanced networking on AWS.
>
>  -- David
>
>  [1]:
>
> http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/enhanced-networking.ht...
>  under "Enabling Enhanced Networking on Other Linux Distributions"
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