On 02/03/2017 09:19 AM, Thomas Mueller wrote:
Am 03.02.2017 um 14:41 schrieb Matthew Miller:
> On Fri, Feb 03, 2017 at 09:43:47AM +0100, Thomas Mueller wrote:
>> Also download numbers on atlas indicate more interest for cloud-base
>> than atomic for vagrant.
> Part of that might be self-reenforcing, as there haven't been enough
> downloads of Atomic yet to bump it to the front page when you search
> for "Fedora".
Google Search: Fedora Atomic
* (1st hit: www.projectatomic.io/
* 2nd hit: https://getfedora.org/en/atomic/
* click: download now
* click: vagrant downloads
* click: View downloads using vagrant tools
Google Search: Fedora Cloud
* (first hit: fedora atomic (https://getfedora.org/en/atomic/))
* 2nd hit: https://getfedora.org/de/cloud/download
* no information about howto use with vagrant directly, only possiblity
to download or "Want try Atomic" link at the bottom.
Google Search: Fedora
* Fedora Atomic "sub-link" (category link? don't know how they are
called) on first hit
* no Fedora Cloud on first page
* Even search for Fedora Cloud brings Atomic on top
* better information about Atomic then for cloud base (for vagrant use case)
Conclusion: i don't think downloads for cloud base are better because of
people searching find it better.
I think what he was alluding to is that if you search for fedora on
Atlas  then you don't see atomic, which means that the cloud base
images could be getting selected because people don't know they are
there. This is because they are sorted by # of downloads, which is
> Is there any way to get download numbers over time? That would be very
I think the future is containers. but right now most people are still
not ready to start full containerization. Another question is if people
are using vagrant with Atomic. I use it to run tests. if possible i run
tests in docker because of lower overhead - I would not use vagrant to
start an Atomic vm to run a container in it I think.
I agree with you that running Atomic in Vagrant can be considered less
useful to some people than running a mutable OS in Vagrant. At least
for me, part of the reason to run something in Vagrant is because you
want to do something (install rpms, hack up storage, test something) that
you don't want to do on your host. If you aren't running containers
Atomic would not be interesting to you in a Vagrant box at this point.