help wanted! please review ec2 quickstart docs

[Matthew Miller]

http://stg.fedoraproject.org/en/using/tutorials/ec2.html

Don't worry about fonts or layout -- this is work in progress. Looking for
feedback on content. Please send that to Robert Mayr (aka robyduck) via irc
or email.

Thanks!

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Matthew Miller    --   Fedora Project    --    <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;

[Jared K. Smith]

On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Matthew Miller
<mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;wrote:

>  http://stg.fedoraproject.org/en/using/tutorials/ec2.html
>
>  Don't worry about fonts or layout -- this is work in progress. Looking for
>  feedback on content. Please send that to Robert Mayr (aka robyduck) via irc
>  or email.
>  
I'd be happy to review this a bit later, and give feedback to robyduck.
Just out of curiosity though, is any of this intended to make its way into
the Cloud Guide?  Or is Cloud Guide completely abandoned from the
perspective of the Cloud SIG?

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Jared Smith

[Jared K. Smith]

On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Jared K. Smith
<jsmith(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;wrote:

>  I'd be happy to review this a bit later, and give feedback to
> robyduck.
>  
A few things I've noticed in going through the document:

* The URL for AWS pricing has changed from
http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/#pricing to http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/
* Please make sure the .iamrc file gets created in the user's home
directory.  This wasn't explicitly mentioned in the instructions.
* In the "Creating a key pair" section, there's an extra percentage sign
(%) in the first paragraph
* In your ssh example, you log in as the "ec2-user" user, when you should
log in as the "fedora" user on the Fedora AMIs.
* It would probably be helpful to explain where to find the various AMIs
for Fedora images in the various regions (
http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora#clouds)

--
Jared Smith

[Jared K. Smith]

On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Jared K. Smith
<jsmith(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;wrote:

>  Just out of curiosity though, is any of this intended to make its way
> into
>  the Cloud Guide?  Or is Cloud Guide completely abandoned from the
>  perspective of the Cloud SIG?
>  
I really should have checked the Cloud Guide a bit closer before saying
that -- it seems this page is pretty much a copy/paste from the Amazon EC2
section of the Cloud Guide.  And when I went to check to see who had
written that section of the Cloud Guide, I found that it was mostly me :-/

That still begs the question though -- does anybody else but me care about
the Cloud Guide, or have any interest in working on it with me?

--
Jared Smith

[Joe Brockmeier]

On 03/13/2014 04:26 PM, Jared K. Smith wrote:
>  On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Jared K. Smith
>  <jsmith(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;wrote:
>  
> > Just out of curiosity though, is any of this intended to make its way into
> > the Cloud Guide?  Or is Cloud Guide completely abandoned from the
> > perspective of the Cloud SIG?
> >
>  
>  I really should have checked the Cloud Guide a bit closer before saying
>  that -- it seems this page is pretty much a copy/paste from the Amazon EC2
>  section of the Cloud Guide.  And when I went to check to see who had
>  written that section of the Cloud Guide, I found that it was mostly me :-/ 
This is on our list of deliverables:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud/Cloud_ToDo#Documentation

>  That still begs the question though -- does anybody else but me care
> about
>  the Cloud Guide, or have any interest in working on it with me? 
Yes, but probably not something I'll be able to pay attention to for a
few weeks.

Best,

jzb
-- 
Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud & Storage Analyst
jzb(a)redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/
Twitter: @jzb  | http://dissociatedpress.net/

[Pete Travis]

On Mar 13, 2014 3:26 PM, "Jared K. Smith" <jsmith(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;
wrote:
>  On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Jared K. Smith <jsmith(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;
wrote:
> >
> > Just out of curiosity though, is any of this intended to make its way 
into the
Cloud Guide?  Or is Cloud Guide completely abandoned from the
perspective of the Cloud SIG?
>  I really should have checked the Cloud Guide a bit closer before saying 
that -- it
seems this page is pretty much a copy/paste from the Amazon EC2
section of the Cloud Guide.  And when I went to check to see who had
written that section of the Cloud Guide, I found that it was mostly me :-/
>  That still begs the question though -- does anybody else but me care 
about the
Cloud Guide, or have any interest in working on it with me?
>  --
>  Jared Smith
>  
I've poked at it in relatively recent history, and maybe even corrected the
source for some of the things you've pointed out (or at least made notes :)

Definitely something I'm interested in working on, but time and the
experience gap have combined forces against me.

-- Pete

[Matthew Miller]

On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:52:49PM -0400, Jared K. Smith wrote:
>  I'd be happy to review this a bit later, and give feedback to
> robyduck.
>  Just out of curiosity though, is any of this intended to make its way into
>  the Cloud Guide?  Or is Cloud Guide completely abandoned from the
>  perspective of the Cloud SIG? 
I think the overall idea is that it is _practically_ abandoned, but not
because anyone wants it to be, just that no one has done anything about it.
It'd be great to see it revived, and as Joe mentioned, it _is_ on our giant
todo list.

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Matthew Miller    --   Fedora Project    --    <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;