Reminder, July 6th-10th is "Learn To Hack On Cobbler Week"

[Michael DeHaan]

You, yes, you!

Tired of mdehaan being slow fixing things or not getting around to 
implementing your really good idea?
Want to contribute to an open source project and get some free info on how?
Do you think you know enough to be dangerous but need some help figuring 
things out?
Hacked around on various scripts before but want to work on a larger 
program?
Want to learn more Python, RPM, Linux, or git-fu?
Have architecture questions about how Cobbler works internally?

"Learn to Hack on Cobbler Week" is for you!

This week is all about getting new folks to contribute to Cobbler, as 
well as helping folks that have contributed once or twice learn to do 
bigger things.

Cobbler is a community project.  I am just the steward for it now, and 
it is fueled by contributors from all over.  We already have over 70 of 
them!
Your chance to join this elite squadron of Cobbler hackers.  

Before you get started you will want to:

* get a Fedora account at https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts -- 
you'll need this to edit the bug tracker
* think about what you want to work on, if it's in Trac at 
fedorahosted.org/cobbler, great, assign it to yourself... if not, open a 
new ticket!
* join the https://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/cobbler-devel 
mailing list -- this is where we'll be sending patches
* join #cobbler-devel on irc.freenode.net if your work will let you -- 
this is the development chat channel.  If you can't, email is ok, and 
you can post comments/questions to the devel list.
* checkout the Cobbler code from the instructions on the Wiki ... or at 
least read about how to check out the code.  If anyone needs git help, 
we can help with that too.

How things are going to work?    You are priority #1 all week long -- 
not what I'm working on, not helping people in the user channel, just 
you and getting your feature/change into cobbler!
If you have questions, I'll answer them as best I can, and work with 
anyone in learning how to contribute to cobbler.

Bring questions of all kinds, even architectural ones, or basic ones... 
doesn't matter!   This week is about you.

I am looking forward to a fun and exciting (and hopefully very 
informative) week!

--Michael

[Robert L Cochran]

What's a good Python book or two we can read? I'm a very experienced 
programmer, but not a very experienced Python programmer.

Thanks!

Bob


On 06/30/2009 02:14 PM, Michael DeHaan wrote:
>  You, yes, you!
>
>  Tired of mdehaan being slow fixing things or not getting around to
>  implementing your really good idea?
>  Want to contribute to an open source project and get some free info on how?
>  Do you think you know enough to be dangerous but need some help figuring
>  things out?
>  Hacked around on various scripts before but want to work on a larger
>  program?
>  Want to learn more Python, RPM, Linux, or git-fu?
>  Have architecture questions about how Cobbler works internally?
>
>  "Learn to Hack on Cobbler Week" is for you!
>
>  This week is all about getting new folks to contribute to Cobbler, as
>  well as helping folks that have contributed once or twice learn to do
>  bigger things.
>
>  Cobbler is a community project.  I am just the steward for it now, and
>  it is fueled by contributors from all over.  We already have over 70 of
>  them!
>  Your chance to join this elite squadron of Cobbler hackers.
>
>  Before you get started you will want to:
>
>  * get a Fedora account at https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts --
>  you'll need this to edit the bug tracker
>  * think about what you want to work on, if it's in Trac at
>  fedorahosted.org/cobbler, great, assign it to yourself... if not, open a
>  new ticket!
>  * join the https://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/cobbler-devel
>  mailing list -- this is where we'll be sending patches
>  * join #cobbler-devel on irc.freenode.net if your work will let you --
>  this is the development chat channel.  If you can't, email is ok, and
>  you can post comments/questions to the devel list.
>  * checkout the Cobbler code from the instructions on the Wiki ... or at
>  least read about how to check out the code.  If anyone needs git help,
>  we can help with that too.
>
>  How things are going to work?    You are priority #1 all week long --
>  not what I'm working on, not helping people in the user channel, just
>  you and getting your feature/change into cobbler!
>  If you have questions, I'll answer them as best I can, and work with
>  anyone in learning how to contribute to cobbler.
>
>  Bring questions of all kinds, even architectural ones, or basic ones...
>  doesn't matter!   This week is about you.
>
>  I am looking forward to a fun and exciting (and hopefully very
>  informative) week!
>
>  --Michael
>
>  _______________________________________________
>  cobbler mailing list
>  cobbler(a)lists.fedorahosted.org
>  https://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/cobbler
>
>
>

[Michael DeHaan]

Robert L Cochran wrote:
>  What's a good Python book or two we can read? I'm a very
> experienced 
>  programmer, but not a very experienced Python programmer.
>
>  Thanks!
>
>  Bob
>     
That's a good question... it's been a while and I don't use too many 
reference books anymore. I have an outdated copy
of "Python Essential Reference" (covering 2.1) from when there weren't 
that many Python books -- which I don't remember
what opinion I had of it :)

There is a large list at:

http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonBooks

If you search that for "free" you will find a few online versions.

I will say that for Cobbler, we don't use anything beyond Python 2.3 
features, so something does not neccessarily have to be current.
That is, you don't need to be concerned with features in Python 2.4 
through 2.6 because we can't use them (because we still support EL 4).

If others have recommendations, please share.

Hope that helps,

--Michael

[James Cammarata]

>  If others have recommendations, please share. 
When I first learned Python back in the day, I got the O'Reily book. 
Nowadays I just hit python.org though (I gave that book away since I hadn't
opened it in 4+ years).

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[Jeff Schroeder]

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 2:18 PM, James Cammarata<jimi(a)sngx.net> wrote:
> > If others have recommendations, please share. 
Its surprising no-one has mentioned this book: http://www.diveintopython.org/

It was written for developers who understand things like
datastructures and whatnot but are new to python. They were great
enough to release it for free online also. If you like them do them a
favor and buy a hard copy.

-- 
Jeff Schroeder

Don't drink and derive, alcohol and analysis don't mix.
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[Ruben Kerkhof]

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 22:31, Robert L Cochran<cochranb(a)speakeasy.net> wrote:
>  What's a good Python book or two we can read? I'm a very
> experienced
>  programmer, but not a very experienced Python programmer.
>
>  Thanks!
>
>  Bob 
Core Python Programming, especially if you're already a programmer.

Ruben

[Robert L Cochran]

Okay....I have a working Fedora account. I've asked about Python books. 
I've taken a peek at the git web page. I've subscribed to cobbler-devel 
and even looked at a patch that Pete Wright submitted in support of 
Ubuntu. I think I can get on #cobbler-devel. And in a few minutes I'm 
going to go off and do my first cobbler-based install of Fedora.

My next question is, for next week, are we going to agree to use a 
particular cobbler source code tree and apply all patches for the week 
to that tree? In other words, which cobbler source tree should I 
download or get from git for next week's events?

Bob




On 06/30/2009 02:14 PM, Michael DeHaan wrote:
>  You, yes, you!
>
>  Tired of mdehaan being slow fixing things or not getting around to
>  implementing your really good idea?
>  Want to contribute to an open source project and get some free info on how?
>  Do you think you know enough to be dangerous but need some help figuring
>  things out?
>  Hacked around on various scripts before but want to work on a larger
>  program?
>  Want to learn more Python, RPM, Linux, or git-fu?
>  Have architecture questions about how Cobbler works internally?
>
>  "Learn to Hack on Cobbler Week" is for you!
>
>  This week is all about getting new folks to contribute to Cobbler, as
>  well as helping folks that have contributed once or twice learn to do
>  bigger things.
>
>  Cobbler is a community project.  I am just the steward for it now, and
>  it is fueled by contributors from all over.  We already have over 70 of
>  them!
>  Your chance to join this elite squadron of Cobbler hackers.
>
>  Before you get started you will want to:
>
>  * get a Fedora account at https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts --
>  you'll need this to edit the bug tracker
>  * think about what you want to work on, if it's in Trac at
>  fedorahosted.org/cobbler, great, assign it to yourself... if not, open a
>  new ticket!
>  * join the https://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/cobbler-devel
>  mailing list -- this is where we'll be sending patches
>  * join #cobbler-devel on irc.freenode.net if your work will let you --
>  this is the development chat channel.  If you can't, email is ok, and
>  you can post comments/questions to the devel list.
>  * checkout the Cobbler code from the instructions on the Wiki ... or at
>  least read about how to check out the code.  If anyone needs git help,
>  we can help with that too.
>
>  How things are going to work?    You are priority #1 all week long --
>  not what I'm working on, not helping people in the user channel, just
>  you and getting your feature/change into cobbler!
>  If you have questions, I'll answer them as best I can, and work with
>  anyone in learning how to contribute to cobbler.
>
>  Bring questions of all kinds, even architectural ones, or basic ones...
>  doesn't matter!   This week is about you.
>
>  I am looking forward to a fun and exciting (and hopefully very
>  informative) week!
>
>  --Michael
>
>  _______________________________________________
>  cobbler mailing list
>  cobbler(a)lists.fedorahosted.org
>  https://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/cobbler
>
>
>

[Michael DeHaan]

Robert L Cochran wrote:
>  Okay....I have a working Fedora account. I've asked about Python
> books. 
>  I've taken a peek at the git web page. I've subscribed to cobbler-devel 
>  and even looked at a patch that Pete Wright submitted in support of 
>  Ubuntu. I think I can get on #cobbler-devel. And in a few minutes I'm 
>  going to go off and do my first cobbler-based install of Fedora.
>
>  My next question is, for next week, are we going to agree to use a 
>  particular cobbler source code tree and apply all patches for the week 
>  to that tree? In other words, which cobbler source tree should I 
>  download or get from git for next week's events?
>     
Yes; you want the "master" branch in the fedorahosted.org git repo.

master = the development branch, which will be released as Cobbler 2.0 
in the coming months
release16 = any fixes for future 1.6.X releases (I do not currently plan 
any)

--Michael


>  Bob
>
>
>
>
>  On 06/30/2009 02:14 PM, Michael DeHaan wrote:
>    
> > You, yes, you!
> >
> > Tired of mdehaan being slow fixing things or not getting around to
> > implementing your really good idea?
> > Want to contribute to an open source project and get some free info on how?
> > Do you think you know enough to be dangerous but need some help figuring
> > things out?
> > Hacked around on various scripts before but want to work on a larger
> > program?
> > Want to learn more Python, RPM, Linux, or git-fu?
> > Have architecture questions about how Cobbler works internally?
> >
> > "Learn to Hack on Cobbler Week" is for you!
> >
> > This week is all about getting new folks to contribute to Cobbler, as
> > well as helping folks that have contributed once or twice learn to do
> > bigger things.
> >
> > Cobbler is a community project.  I am just the steward for it now, and
> > it is fueled by contributors from all over.  We already have over 70 of
> > them!
> > Your chance to join this elite squadron of Cobbler hackers.
> >
> > Before you get started you will want to:
> >
> > * get a Fedora account at https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts --
> > you'll need this to edit the bug tracker
> > * think about what you want to work on, if it's in Trac at
> > fedorahosted.org/cobbler, great, assign it to yourself... if not, open a
> > new ticket!
> > * join the https://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/cobbler-devel
> > mailing list -- this is where we'll be sending patches
> > * join #cobbler-devel on irc.freenode.net if your work will let you --
> > this is the development chat channel.  If you can't, email is ok, and
> > you can post comments/questions to the devel list.
> > * checkout the Cobbler code from the instructions on the Wiki ... or at
> > least read about how to check out the code.  If anyone needs git help,
> > we can help with that too.
> >
> > How things are going to work?    You are priority #1 all week long --
> > not what I'm working on, not helping people in the user channel, just
> > you and getting your feature/change into cobbler!
> > If you have questions, I'll answer them as best I can, and work with
> > anyone in learning how to contribute to cobbler.
> >
> > Bring questions of all kinds, even architectural ones, or basic ones...
> > doesn't matter!   This week is about you.
> >
> > I am looking forward to a fun and exciting (and hopefully very
> > informative) week!
> >
> > --Michael
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > cobbler mailing list
> > cobbler(a)lists.fedorahosted.org
> > https://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/cobbler
> >
> >
> >    
> >     
>  _______________________________________________
>  cobbler mailing list
>  cobbler(a)lists.fedorahosted.org
>  https://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/cobbler
>