commops November 2015

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fedoramagazine-tips@lists.fp.o now available
by Justin W. Flory 13 Nov '15

13 Nov '15

Hi all, One last email for tonight. :) As we discussed in our last meeting, the Fedora Magazine Tips mailing list now appears to be public. https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fedoramagazine-tips You can request to join the list, although there is manual approval. I anticipate this to be a high-traffic list as it is my understanding that it may be hooked up to the "Leave feedback / ideas" box on the Fedora Magazine that any Magazine visitor can use. (Might be a good idea to subscribe as a digest.) This list should help provide an interesting insight to the ideas and thoughts of the broader Fedora community outside of just contributors, and it should provide insight from a more "user" perspective. Definitely lots of interesting info to be had. I'm currently not sure what the official policy is on this mailing list, but I thought I would share as we were discussing this on Tuesday. Thanks! -- Cheers, Justin W. Flory jflory7(a)gmail.com

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CommOps + Elections F23/F24
by Bhagyashree Uday 13 Nov '15

13 Nov '15

Hey Jan, The upcoming F23/F24 Elections were on the table during todays CommOps IRC meeting and I glad to let you know that CommOps community is very interested in helping with conducting the upcoming Elections. As an introductory text, I was hoping to share the google doc with election related tasks but cannot change the required permissions needed for everyone to view. Also, I am sure CommOps community would love to help on getting candidate interviews posted., now that CommBlog is up and running ! Cheers Bee

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5tftw: 2015-11-17...ish.
by Justin W. Flory 13 Nov '15

13 Nov '15

Hi all, Now that the Fedora 23 buzz is starting to die down on the Magazine, the 5 Things in Fedora This Week (5tftw) will be resuming again. Based on our Etherpad we established in our last meeting and in our toolbox on the wiki, the next date is estimated to be November 17th... or so. :) Please see the Etherpad we are using for 5tftw planning and note taking. Each time a new one goes out, the notepad is emptied of what is used. https://www.piratepad.ca/p/5tftw I have added a few more things onto their for next week, but this is mostly just stuff I pulled from the CommBlog, so I can't take much original credit for it. If you guys have ideas of things to add, you can add it now so there's a wider pool of things to choose from either this upcoming week or the next. Thanks! -- Cheers, Justin W. Flory jflory7(a)gmail.com

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Fedora Planet moved to CommBlog, publication date?
by Justin W. Flory 13 Nov '15

13 Nov '15

Hi all, As discussed at the Magazine meeting tonight, the Fedora Planet article was migrated to the Community Blog. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/around-world-fedora-planet/ I believe it's fairly feature-complete as-is, and if nobody has any objectives, I'd like to schedule it for Wednesday, 2015 Nov 18 at 8:00 UTC. Thanks! -- Cheers, Justin W. Flory jflory7(a)gmail.com

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only openid in fedoramag and community blog
by Ryan Lerch 13 Nov '15

13 Nov '15

Hi all, just opened this ticket, and after ideas / comments / feedback. please reply in the ticket on this one. cheers, ryanlerch #207: only openid on fedoramagazine -----------------------------+------------------------------ Reporter: ryanlerch | Owner: chrisroberts Type: task | Status: new Priority: minor | Milestone: Future releases Component: Fedora Magazine | Severity: not-urgent Keywords: | Blocked By: Blocking: | -----------------------------+------------------------------ hi, would just like to open discussion about a possible enhancement to how openid is presented to the user on communityblog and fedoramagazine. the idea is when someone goes to /wp-admin/ they are sent straight to the ipsilon login page -- i really think that FAS should be the only login into the fedora magazine here, and doing this will reduce clicks needed from the user, and the need for our how to log in with FAS howto page. -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/207> marketing-team <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing> Marketing team for the Fedora project.

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Fwd: Post-mortem
by Remy DeCausemaker 12 Nov '15

12 Nov '15

Commops, This is some nitty-gritty but super informative "sausage making" stuff here. Could be pulled wholesale, and then provide a link to copr? --RemyD. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Miroslav Suchý <msuchy(a)redhat.com> Date: Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 10:16 AM Subject: Post-mortem To: Cool Other Package Repositories <copr-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org> Last two days we had problem processing the queue. This is post-mortem of what happened. Mmraka sent several thousands of builds to Copr - that is fine, it was discussed in advance with me and in fact I encourage such tests and rebuilds. However this triggered one bug: this users was unable to get list of builds as we have inefficient SQL query on that page [1]. As result of this Michal (and very likely somebody else too) tried to delete several hundreds of builds at once. This resulted in bad JobGrabber behaviour where it fetched few dozen tasks and then stopped without any error. When I debug it (on production (!) because it did not happen in stage) it processed first round of builds, first action and then stopped. I then learned that JobGrabber waited for lock, which was hanging there from previously killed JobGrabber. After I removed it, I found there is that big number of tasks to be executed. And our code in JobGrabber looks like: while True: if some builds: put builds in queue if some tasks: execute them immediately That is because previously users send only few tasks at once and those operation are basically very cheap (usually just unlink, followed by quick createrepo_c --update). However repositories to which belong those actions are big (several GBs) and even createrepo_c run for more than minute. So it effectively blocked next fetch of builds from frontend for several hours. Right now the task queue is empty so builds are processed in timely manner and our code in master is already changed to be resistant to such behaviour. I am really sorry if you had to wait for your build in past two days. We learned a lesson from this massive usage of Copr and we identified some other potential performance issue and it will result in even better service in upcoming days. [1] Adam is fixing the code right now. -- Miroslav Suchy, RHCA Red Hat, Senior Software Engineer, #brno, #devexp, #fedora-buildsys _______________________________________________ copr-devel mailing list copr-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org https://lists.fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/copr-devel -- Remy DeCausemaker Fedora Community Lead & Council <decause(a)redhat.com> https://whatcanidoforfedora.org

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Re: [commops] New group/project in Fedora Infra Cloud for Cloud SIG
by Remy DeCausemaker 11 Nov '15

11 Nov '15

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Kevin Fenzi <kevin(a)scrye.com> wrote: > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 20:15:56 +0530 > Kushal Das <mail(a)kushaldas.in> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I have started bootstrapping a group of volunteers from the community > > who will help us to do manual testing of Fedora cloud images > > (including atomic). Right now I have only a limited number of people > > whom we will help so that they pick up the required skill set to > > understand the process/systems, and be able to help. This level of > > manual testing will be above the automatic tests autocloud[1] is > > doing. This is the same group of people who will also write (few > > already started) new tests for the Cloud SIG. > > > > Because bandwidth is an issue, we will require access to Fedora Infra > > Cloud (or something similar), where we can create (of course not the > > long running ones) instances or add new images to do the required > > testing. > > > > Please let me know what should be the next step for this. > > So, we could make a new tenant for this I suppose. We also have a > cloud-sig one already I think. > > This would just be: boot nightly image, run some tests/poke around, > terminate right? > > Unfortunately managing people with access will be kind of a pain right > now, but there's some plans to perhaps get the cloud using openid so we > can just use fas groups. I'm not sure how far that is away, but can > inquire. Whatever you folks do decide, this would make for a *great* post on the Fedora Community Blog. If you have a blurb/link/mailing list you want to point folks to sooner than later, we accept very short announcement-style posts if you just point us at the content, or sign into https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org with your FAS, and add a draft yourself :) Looking Forward, --RemyD. -- Remy DeCausemaker <decause(a)redhat.com> Fedora Community Lead & Council https://whatcanidoforfedora.org

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Fwd: network world review
by Remy DeCausemaker 11 Nov '15

11 Nov '15

This would make for an excellent link post I reckon :) Blockquote the text, link to primary article, properly tagged and categorized as "press." Looking Forward, --RemyD. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Matthew Miller" <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> Date: Nov 10, 2015 5:59 PM Subject: network world review To: "Fedora Marketing team" <marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> Cc: Also covers openSUSE and Ubuntu's latest releases. But I'm gonna cut to the good stuff: I'm going to say this as simply as I can: I experienced not one single issue with Fedora 23. I used it as my primary system for a few days in a row and never, not once, hit any sort of glitch. It was fast and stable and I just don't have anything bad to say about it. [...] This is, without a doubt, my favorite release of Fedora in many years. Possibly my favorite release they've ever done. Fast, stable, and great looking. http://www.networkworld.com/article/3003929/opensource-subnet/reviewing-ubu… -- Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader -- marketing mailing list marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

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Draft article on Design Team Update for Community blog?
by Máirín Duffy 11 Nov '15

11 Nov '15

Hi folks, I spent some time today writing up an article summarizing the Fedora Design Team's presentation to the Fedora Council last week. It's a nice overview of how the team works, things we've done to improve the team processes / etc., and some of our plans for the future. I've left it in draft mode in the community blog wordpress. Would anybody mind taking a look and letting me know if it'd be cool to publish? ~m

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Re: [commops] Migration to HyperKitty / Mailman 3
by Remy DeCausemaker 11 Nov '15

11 Nov '15

On Nov 10, 2015 2:55 PM, "Kevin Fenzi" <kevin(a)scrye.com> wrote: > > On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 19:33:16 +0100 > Aurelien Bompard <abompard(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > > > Let's instead give really simple instructions for adding it. And > > > make sure it happens on at least the big lists. > > > > > > Can we add it in cases where the footer isn't customized? > > > > I'll check that. > > > > OK I've sent the emails to the lists, they are obviously held for > > moderation, could someone with the right permissions accept them? > > I did a while back right after they were sent. ;) > > let me know if you still see any moderated. > > kevin > > _______________________________________________ > infrastructure mailing list > infrastructure(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/infrastructure@lists.fedoraproje… > FYI, I have queued up a post for https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org based on your announcement :) Is there an ideal time to publish it from an infra standpoint? Thanks, --RemyD.

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