Thanks so much for this info, Sirko and Máirín! This is all great info to have. I also appreciate both of you speaking up in our meeting today as that added a lot of insight into how to best approach this topic and how we can help the Design Team with this.On 06/07/2016 08:15 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote:
Hi,
On 06/05/2016 10:41 PM, S.Kemter wrote:
1. Self-printed vs. printed material (first one shall have lesser colors
to save ink as it becomes to expensive otherwise)
2. different paper formats, letter vs DIN
3. different bleed sizes (well for some it might work with and general
bleed size but not for all)
4. different colors, EMEA ICC profiled, US CMYK and APAC very funny
there very often the printer wants to do it by them self
For stickers it even becomes more problematic as it depends on the
printing method.
So what is the problem, to come with the special need, when you need it?
These are great points. For our workflow we really need to know all of
the things gnokii outlines above. We can't know these things ahead of
time, which is why we ask that anyone doing a run of Fedora materials
please contact us first so we can make sure it will come out correctly -
it is impossible to provide ready-made things for every possible
situation. We have a set of assets we use as a template, but their usage
requires a designer be involved.
Well, what is the harm in trying to DIY it? I think it could be
instructive to walk through what can happen if you don't work with the
design team:
1) If you try to DIY printing something in a low-color situation, you
may not know the appropriate ways to pull colors out of Fedora designs
and end up with a compromised Fedora logo that doesn't adhere to our
guidelines as well as a potentially bad-looking design since there are
tricks you need to know about for low-color situations that you might
not know without experience.
2) If you print something designed for US Letter to A4, part of it is
going to either get cut out, or the design is going to get
stretched/squished, and you're going to have an ugly blank area on one
side of the page.
3) If you don't understand bleed sizes / use a document with the bleed
set incorrectly, the design will be cropped off on all sides of the
page, potentially some of the text getting cut off and unreadable.
4) If you don't have the right colors set, for example you send a file
with RGB color where CMYK is required, Fedora blue turns purple. Don't
believe me? Check out the old Fedora 7 discs. This is how we learned the
hard way:
https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/1/1c/Fedora-purple.jpg
(the blues on the right side are supposed to be the same color as the
blues on the left side....)
~m
I think the approach we're going to focus on for now is looking at how this information is communicated with the Ambassadors, and look at coming up with a "standard operating procedure" of sorts for what Ambassadors should do and expect when it comes to requesting artwork assets or printed products.
The introduction of the new roles in the Ambassador regions (Storyteller and Logistician) should be useful in helping us work on this and communicating it with Ambassadors.
Thanks again for the feedback, this is helping point us in a different direction we may not have thought of otherwise. :)