mktgs,
Across the Project, one of the tools we use to get better at what wedo is a Retrospective. This is a report compiled by contributors that more or less lists the things that went well/not-so-well, and ideas for improvement. You can find examples on the wiki (QA has some recent pages like https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_QA_Retrospective and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Retrospective)
Marketing Retrospectives were once based upon SOPs (Standard Operating Procedures) for doing marketing tasks like creating the alpha/beta/final announcements, briefing ambassadors, and other interesting and crucial work. Some are a bit dated, but you can find them here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Marketing_SOPs
Since we didn't totally stick to an SOP for releases this year, we're just going to gather extra 'after the fact' feedback and data to make improvements to our process, going back to Fedora 22 when possible.
Here are a few questions we'd like to take a stab at answering on our wiki page:
- What did we do right? - What can we do better? - Where did we have gaps? - How did we bridge them?
After we've gotten this retrospective fleshed out, we'd like to reinstate regular mktg meetings on IRC in early 2016. Keep an eye on the lists for updates.
If folks have any questions about this email, or additional questions they think would provide value to the retrospective, please update the wiki before Friday 12/18 (or even just respond here, and commops will update the wiki from this thread.)
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/2015_marketing_retrospective
Looking Forward, --RemyD.
P.S. --
Too often FOSS Communities must take care not to settle into negative feedback loops. Below is an excellent quote from some further reading on the subject of pointing fingers and blamery, recommended to me by mattdm:
"...it's like peeing in your pants. You feel relieved and perhaps even nice and warm for a little while, but then it gets cold and uncomfortable..." ~Sydney Decker, "A Look at Looking in the Mirror" by J. Paul Reed.''
http://www.slideshare.net/jhand2/its-not-your-fault-blameless-post-mortems https://codeascraft.com/2012/05/22/blameless-postmortems/
Retrospectives are all about identifying direction and moving forward in a positive manner :)
Hello Remy (and all mktg guys),
Il giorno mar, 15/12/2015 alle 02.41 -0500, Remy DeCausemaker ha scritto:
mktgs,
Across the Project, one of the tools we use to get better at what wedo is a Retrospective. This is a report compiled by contributors that more or less lists the things that went well/not-so-well, and ideas for improvement. You can find examples on the wiki (QA has some recent pages like https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_QA_Retrospective and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Retrospective)
Marketing Retrospectives were once based upon SOPs (Standard Operating Procedures) for doing marketing tasks like creating the alpha/beta/final announcements, briefing ambassadors, and other interesting and crucial work. Some are a bit dated, but you can find them here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Marketing_SOPs
Yes, that's right, in particular the SOP page for retrospective is [1] and I would have done the retrospective, but really was busy so I miss the date, but thank you for heading this up. As the F23 mktg tasks shows [2], it was due in November. I'm going to open a mktg ticket for regain the time lost, and work on it soon (in fact we have a bit of time before before a new F24 task happens).
Since we didn't totally stick to an SOP for releases this year, we're just going to gather extra 'after the fact' feedback and data to make improvements to our process, going back to Fedora 22 when possible.
Here are a few questions we'd like to take a stab at answering on our wiki page:
- What did we do right?
- What can we do better?
- Where did we have gaps?
- How did we bridge them?
After we've gotten this retrospective fleshed out, we'd like to reinstate regular mktg meetings on IRC in early 2016. Keep an eye on the lists for updates.
Agreed, I had the same thought. Honestly I'd like to clarify some questions inside the mktg just like how many of us are working on magazine and how many on tasks? I'd like shooting mails to mktg people joined the FAS group asking for a better engagement along the tasks time. It is not possible the "usual suspects" are the only members working on.
If folks have any questions about this email, or additional questions they think would provide value to the retrospective, please update the wiki before Friday 12/18 (or even just respond here, and commops will update the wiki from this thread.)
We have a mktg page [3] reporting the main links to the pages, it renews automatically every cycle, so the new pages should be opened following those red links. Wiki is really messed up and mktg part probably more than others, and we should try to get it tidy.
Thank you very much.
Gabri
[snip]
[1]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_retrospective_SOP [2] https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-23/f-23-marketing-tasks.html [3]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing#Release_deliverables
On Dec 15, 2015 03:33, "Gabriele Trombini" g.trombini@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Remy (and all mktg guys),
Il giorno mar, 15/12/2015 alle 02.41 -0500, Remy DeCausemaker ha scritto:
mktgs,
Across the Project, one of the tools we use to get better at what wedo is a Retrospective. This is a report compiled by contributors that more or less lists the things that went well/not-so-well, and ideas for improvement. You can find examples on the wiki (QA has some recent pages like https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_QA_Retrospective and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Retrospective)
Marketing Retrospectives were once based upon SOPs (Standard Operating Procedures) for doing marketing tasks like creating the alpha/beta/final announcements, briefing ambassadors, and other interesting and crucial work. Some are a bit dated, but you can find them here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Marketing_SOPs
Yes, that's right, in particular the SOP page for retrospective is [1] and I would have done the retrospective, but really was busy so I miss the date, but thank you for heading this up. As the F23 mktg tasks shows [2], it was due in November. I'm going to open a mktg ticket for regain the time lost, and work on it soon (in fact we have a bit of time before before a new F24 task happens).
Since we didn't totally stick to an SOP for releases this year, we're just going to gather extra 'after the fact' feedback and data to make improvements to our process, going back to Fedora 22 when possible.
Here are a few questions we'd like to take a stab at answering on our wiki page:
- What did we do right?
- What can we do better?
- Where did we have gaps?
- How did we bridge them?
After we've gotten this retrospective fleshed out, we'd like to reinstate regular mktg meetings on IRC in early 2016. Keep an eye on the lists for updates.
Agreed, I had the same thought. Honestly I'd like to clarify some questions inside the mktg just like how many of us are working on magazine and how many on tasks? I'd like shooting mails to mktg people joined the FAS group asking for a better engagement along the tasks time. It is not possible the "usual suspects" are the only members working on.
If folks have any questions about this email, or additional questions they think would provide value to the retrospective, please update the wiki before Friday 12/18 (or even just respond here, and commops will update the wiki from this thread.)
We have a mktg page [3] reporting the main links to the pages, it renews automatically every cycle, so the new pages should be opened following those red links. Wiki is really messed up and mktg part probably more than others, and we should try to get it tidy.
Thank you very much.
Thank YOU mailga. I checked to see when the last meeting block was, and you were def in the logs on the last entry.
Glad to see you're still here too :)
Looking Forward, --RemyD.
Gabri
[snip]
[1]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_retrospective_SOP [2] https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-23/f-23-marketing-tasks.html [3]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing#Release_deliverables
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Hello guys,
in the commops meeting held today[1], it has been established that the deadline for the mktg retrospective [2][3] is the end of the week (Jan 17), then suggestions (and critics) will merge in the commops YiR [4].
Thanks for helping on writing useful things.
Gabri
[1] https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2016-01-12/commo ps.2016-01-12-17.02.log.html
[2]https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/212 [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/2015_marketing_retrospective [4] https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/share-your-year-in-review-w ith-fedora/
Il giorno mar, 15/12/2015 alle 09.33 +0100, Gabriele Trombini ha scritto:
Hello Remy (and all mktg guys),
Il giorno mar, 15/12/2015 alle 02.41 -0500, Remy DeCausemaker ha scritto:
mktgs,
Across the Project, one of the tools we use to get better at what wedo is a Retrospective. This is a report compiled by contributors that more or less lists the things that went well/not-so-well, and ideas for improvement. You can find examples on the wiki (QA has some recent pages like https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_QA_Retrospective and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Retrospective)
Marketing Retrospectives were once based upon SOPs (Standard Operating Procedures) for doing marketing tasks like creating the alpha/beta/final announcements, briefing ambassadors, and other interesting and crucial work. Some are a bit dated, but you can find them here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Marketing_SOPs
Yes, that's right, in particular the SOP page for retrospective is [1] and I would have done the retrospective, but really was busy so I miss the date, but thank you for heading this up. As the F23 mktg tasks shows [2], it was due in November. I'm going to open a mktg ticket for regain the time lost, and work on it soon (in fact we have a bit of time before before a new F24 task happens).
Since we didn't totally stick to an SOP for releases this year, we're just going to gather extra 'after the fact' feedback and data to make improvements to our process, going back to Fedora 22 when possible.
Here are a few questions we'd like to take a stab at answering on our wiki page:
- What did we do right?
- What can we do better?
- Where did we have gaps?
- How did we bridge them?
After we've gotten this retrospective fleshed out, we'd like to reinstate regular mktg meetings on IRC in early 2016. Keep an eye on the lists for updates.
Agreed, I had the same thought. Honestly I'd like to clarify some questions inside the mktg just like how many of us are working on magazine and how many on tasks? I'd like shooting mails to mktg people joined the FAS group asking for a better engagement along the tasks time. It is not possible the "usual suspects" are the only members working on.
If folks have any questions about this email, or additional questions they think would provide value to the retrospective, please update the wiki before Friday 12/18 (or even just respond here, and commops will update the wiki from this thread.)
We have a mktg page [3] reporting the main links to the pages, it renews automatically every cycle, so the new pages should be opened following those red links. Wiki is really messed up and mktg part probably more than others, and we should try to get it tidy.
Thank you very much.
Gabri
[snip]
[1]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_retrospective_SOP [2] https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-23/f-23-marketing-tasks.ht ml [3]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing#Release_deliverables
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