On Tuesday, February 13, 2018 10:15:42 PM CET Michal Novotny wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 9:51 PM, Michal Novotny <clime@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 12:54 PM, Michael Šimáček <msimacek@redhat.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 2018-02-13 11:47, Pavel Raiskup wrote:
> >>
> >>> Sorry, I wanted to CC fedora devel before, forwarding.
> >>>
> >>> Pavel
> >>>
> >>> On Tuesday, February 13, 2018 10:54:55 AM CET Pavel Raiskup wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Because we are unable to find a consensus on implementation details,
> >>>> it's
> >>>> likely we'll drop this feature from copr API and it will be probably a
> >>>> bit
> >>>> more complicated to setup mock chroot for local tests in future (you'll
> >>>> need to have builder machine with copr-rpmbuild installed, which brings
> >>>> a
> >>>> lot more runtime dependencies at least).
> >>>>
> >>>>  From user perspective, do you mind if we dropped `copr mock-config`
> >>>> command?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >> I didn't know this command existed, but there were multiple times in the
> >> past where I wished something like this had been available (It didn't exist
> >> back then). It was usually situation like this: "Hi, I'm trying to build
> >> $package in $copr and it fails because of $build_tool that you maintain,
> >> can you help me?". And since I had no idea how his copr was set up, it took
> >> me a lot of time before I was able to reproduce the problem. So, I would
> >> find the feature useful, especially in instances outside Fedora, which
> >> usually have more complex configurations.
> >> If it had to be dropped, I'd appreciate if copr could display the
> >> configuration of given project for non-owners. That way it would be easier
> >> to construct my own config, without trying to guess stuff based on the logs.
> >>
> >
> > First, thanks for your input. This is very useful information for us.
> > Next, I would like to ask if it was ok to put all the functionality about
> > build-testing and building itself into just a single package:
> > copr-rpmbuild. I think having things on just one place can help us focus on
> > doing them really well and as the copr-rpmbuild tool is already responsible
> > for building, I think it would be a perfect place to add additional
> > build-debugging functionality like printing-out/dumping mock configs,
> > enablement to run just a part of the build process, possibility to enter
> > the build environment interactively etc. Would this be alright?
> >
>
> I need to add that with this tool you really need to know _what_ you are
> building to be on the safe side. It is similar to running rpmbuild locally
> (unless you are really just dumping mock configs).

I use 'copr mock-config' for working with buildroot, even if I don't want
to build anything (mock --shell).  So except from mock, any other deps
installed by copr-rpmbuild are useless and I don't want them on my box
basically.

Pavel

> > Thank you again for your feedback
> > Michal
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Michael
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