Fedora CoreOS Meeting Minutes 2023-08-30
by Dusty Mabe
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2023-08-30/fedora_core...
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Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2023-08-30/fedora_core...
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#fedora-meeting-1: fedora_coreos_meeting
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Meeting started by dustymabe at 16:29:06 UTC. The full logs are
available at
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Meeting summary
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* roll call (dustymabe, 16:29:11)
* Action items from last meeting (dustymabe, 16:36:06)
* travier has asked the rpm-ostree/ostree folks to take a look
(dustymabe, 16:37:50)
* sshd.socket going away in Fedora 39 (dustymabe, 16:38:17)
* LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1558
(dustymabe, 16:38:22)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2025716#c14
(travier, 16:40:00)
* LINK:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.o...
(travier, 16:41:21)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issues (smooge, 16:48:13)
* ACTION: dustymabe or travier to file a fesco ticket to see if the
change should be moved to F40 (dustymabe, 16:49:13)
* AGREED: we will open a ticket with FESCO to see if this change would
be better suited for Fedora 40. If it lands in F40 then we'll
publish a CLHM helper to let people know the change is coming. If it
lands in F39 we'll keep the socket for a notice period and warn
people of the coming change. (dustymabe, 16:53:25)
* New Package Request: gvisor-tap-vsock (dustymabe, 16:53:42)
* LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1557
(dustymabe, 16:53:46)
* LINK:
https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1557#issuecomment-...
(travier, 16:56:57)
* AGREED: In order to enable podman-remote like use cases on HyperV
and AppleHV we will include the gvisor-tap-vsock package. The size
of 5.6M for gvforwarder and 12M for gvproxy is a concern, though.
(dustymabe, 17:12:44)
* LUKS Encryption fails after upgrade to 38.20230819.2.0 testing stream
on bare metal installation (dustymabe, 17:13:26)
* LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1555
(dustymabe, 17:13:30)
* AGREED: We won't revert the kernel in our testing/next streams but
we will be careful and not introduce this regression to our stable
stream for the next round of releases. We will monitor the upstream
discussion surrounding the bug and try to deliver a fixed kernel in
the next set of testing/next releases. (dustymabe, 17:27:16)
* Handling of default users/groups (dustymabe, 17:27:58)
* LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/155
(dustymabe, 17:28:02)
* open floor (dustymabe, 17:29:06)
Meeting ended at 17:32:20 UTC.
Action Items
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* dustymabe or travier to file a fesco ticket to see if the change
should be moved to F40
Action Items, by person
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* dustymabe
* dustymabe or travier to file a fesco ticket to see if the change
should be moved to F40
* travier
* dustymabe or travier to file a fesco ticket to see if the change
should be moved to F40
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* dustymabe (107)
* travier (54)
* zodbot (15)
* spresti (14)
* smooge (9)
* ravanelli (6)
* aaradhak (3)
* marmijo (3)
* gursewak (2)
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Fedora CoreOS Meeting Minutes 2023-08-23
by Steven Presti
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2023-08-23/fedora_core...
Minutes (text):
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2023-08-23/fedora_core...
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#fedora-meeting-1: fedora_coreos_meeting
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Meeting started by spresti at 16:30:38 UTC. The full logs are available
athttps://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2023-08-23/fedora_co...
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Meeting summary
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* roll call (spresti, 16:31:02)
* Action items from last meeting (spresti, 16:34:29)
* there were no action items from last meeting (spresti, 16:34:40)
* ConditionNeedsUpdate= (systemd unit) will never trigger (spresti,
16:35:35)
* LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1538
(spresti, 16:35:45)
* ACTION: travier will bring that issue to the rpm-ostree / ostree
team (travier, 16:48:42)
* Ship moby-engine 23.0.x in Fedora CoreOS (spresti, 16:49:01)
* LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1476
(spresti, 16:49:21)
* AGREED: we will pick up the moby-engine update when our streams
transition to Fedora 39. We will add a note to our f39 release
communication about the update and any considerations that need to
be made. (spresti, 17:03:49)
* New Package Request: audit (spresti, 17:04:16)
* LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1362
(spresti, 17:04:29)
* LINK:
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/audit/blob/rawhide/f/audit.spec#_20
(travier, 17:10:28)
* LINK:
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/audit/blob/rawhide/f/audit.spec#_152
(dustymabe, 17:12:01)
* LINK:
https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1362#issuecomment-...
(travier, 17:13:10)
* AGREED: We'll fix the remaining issues in the audit package and
we'll include it in Fedora CoreOS once ready (spresti, 17:17:40)
* Handling of default users/groups (spresti, 17:18:17)
* tracker: Fedora 39 changes considerations (spresti, 17:20:17)
* LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1491
(spresti, 17:20:28)
* Open Floor (spresti, 17:22:29)
* LINK:
https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-39/f-39-key-tasks.html
(dustymabe, 17:23:46)
Meeting ended at 17:29:14 UTC.
Action Items
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* travier will bring that issue to the rpm-ostree / ostree team
Action Items, by person
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* travier
* travier will bring that issue to the rpm-ostree / ostree team
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* travier (69)
* dustymabe (58)
* spresti (50)
* zodbot (18)
* aaradhak (3)
* marmijo (2)
* ravanelli (2)
* davdunc (1)
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Fedora CoreOS Meeting Minutes 2023-08-16
by Dusty Mabe
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#fedora-meeting-1: fedora_coreos_meeting
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Meeting started by dustymabe at 16:31:10 UTC. The full logs are
available at
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Meeting summary
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* roll call (dustymabe, 16:31:15)
* Action items from last meeting (dustymabe, 16:36:32)
* New Package Request: AWS amazon-ssm-agent for AWS EC2 AMI (dustymabe,
16:37:57)
* LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1537
(dustymabe, 16:38:03)
* AGREED: We will not include the amazon-ssm-agent in Fedora CoreOS.
We have generally not shipped cloud agents in the past and the
package is only available from third party repos. If users want to
layer this package they have that option. (dustymabe, 16:46:41)
* low memory systems with large disks fail to provision (dustymabe,
16:47:29)
* LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1535
(dustymabe, 16:47:32)
* AGREED: We will attempt to make the autosave-xfs code not request a
reprovision if the memory in the system is too low. We will also
develop a CLHM helper script that checks agcount in the root
filesystem (if it is XFS) and give the user a proper message if it's
too low. (dustymabe, 17:06:48)
* Low memory machines fails to intialize/boot fcos (dustymabe,
17:07:16)
* LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1540
(dustymabe, 17:07:20)
* LINK:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora/latest/release-notes/welcome/...
(travier, 17:09:06)
* we have documentation for minimum system requirements at
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora/latest/release-notes/welcome/...
(dustymabe, 17:12:20)
* tracker: Fedora 39 changes considerations (dustymabe, 17:15:30)
* LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1491
(dustymabe, 17:15:35)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/LibuserDeprecation
(dustymabe, 17:16:12)
* This should not impact us. rpm-ostree and ostree do not link to
libuser. (dustymabe, 17:18:52)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/LLVM-17 (dustymabe,
17:19:20)
* This should not affect us or should be transparent. (dustymabe,
17:19:54)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/MigrateIfcfgToKeyfile
(dustymabe, 17:20:25)
* This should not affect us. Fedora CoreOS never supported ifcfg style
network configuration files. (dustymabe, 17:20:42)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/IBus_1.5.29
(dustymabe, 17:21:18)
* Nothing to do. We don't ship IBUS. (dustymabe, 17:21:56)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Indic_Noto_fonts
(dustymabe, 17:22:17)
* We don't ship fonts. (dustymabe, 17:22:27)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AnacondaWebUIforFedoraWorkstation
(dustymabe, 17:22:50)
* Nothing for us to do. We don't ship Anaconda and this change is
targetted at Workstation. (dustymabe, 17:23:22)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BuildJdkOncePackEverywhere
(dustymabe, 17:23:41)
* Nothing to do. We don't ship Java. (dustymabe, 17:23:54)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GNUToolchainF39
(dustymabe, 17:24:12)
* This would should be transparent to us. We'll pick up packages as
they get rebuilt and actively test them in our `rawhide` stream.
(dustymabe, 17:24:39)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/cleanup_systemd_install
(dustymabe, 17:25:30)
* Nothing for us to do. We will continue to use GRUB for now.
(dustymabe, 17:27:07)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoCustomQtThemingForWorkstation
(dustymabe, 17:27:29)
* Nothing for us to do. This one is Workstation specific. (dustymabe,
17:27:40)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RetireModularity
(dustymabe, 17:27:56)
* We've already done some work in
https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1513 to
remove modular repos from F39+. (dustymabe, 17:30:03)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/sericea-xorgless
(dustymabe, 17:30:32)
* Nothing for us to do. This is Sericea and Sway spin specific.
(dustymabe, 17:30:45)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Python_Extension_Flags_Reduction
(dustymabe, 17:31:04)
* Nothing for us to do. We don't ship python. (dustymabe, 17:31:24)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Passkey_authentication_centrally_m...
(dustymabe, 17:31:45)
* No work for us to do here. If there are AD managed FCOS systems I
imagine the change could be picked up by them. (dustymabe,
17:32:36)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ibus-anthy_1.5.15
(dustymabe, 17:33:03)
* Nothing for us to do. We don't ship ibus. (dustymabe, 17:33:12)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/KDEKinoiteAutoUpdateByDefault
(dustymabe, 17:33:29)
* Nothing for us to do. This is kinoite specific. (dustymabe,
17:33:42)
* open floor (dustymabe, 17:33:49)
Meeting ended at 17:37:36 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* dustymabe (148)
* travier (45)
* zodbot (16)
* spresti (14)
* ravanelli (4)
* jmarrero (4)
* gursewak (3)
* marmijo (2)
* aaradhak85 (2)
* mnguyen (1)
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Fedora CoreOS Meeting Minutes 2023-08-02
by Dusty Mabe
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2023-08-02/fedora_core...
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#fedora-meeting-1: fedora_coreos_meeting
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Meeting started by dustymabe at 16:30:19 UTC. The full logs are
available at
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Meeting summary
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* roll call (dustymabe, 16:30:23)
* Action items from last meeting (dustymabe, 16:33:59)
* There were no action items from last meeting (dustymabe, 16:34:50)
* kola reprovision tests are failing on ppc64le (dustymabe, 16:35:32)
* LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1489
(dustymabe, 16:35:36)
* AGREED: Since our install base is low we will attempt to pin the
kernel for just ppc64le. If that is not an option then we will pin
for all for next week's releases and then unpin for all the next
cycle or if an important CVE comes in. (dustymabe, 17:01:07)
* ACTION: marmijo[m] will explore trying to pin the kernel just on one
architecture to see if we think it will work for the next round of
releases. (dustymabe, 17:02:26)
* Platform Request - Apple native hypervisor (dustymabe, 17:02:41)
* LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1533
(dustymabe, 17:02:46)
* LINK: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/hypervisor
(jmarrero, 17:07:00)
* AGREED: There are still some details to work out but adding this
platform seems like a good idea to enable FCOS use cases on apple
hardware, including podman machine and podman desktop. (dustymabe,
17:14:31)
* tracker: Fedora 39 changes considerations (dustymabe, 17:14:55)
* LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1491
(dustymabe, 17:14:59)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ImproveDefaultFontHandling
(dustymabe, 17:15:46)
* DWM: This should not affect us we don't ship fonts packages.
(dustymabe, 17:16:49)
* DWM: This is for Fedora Workstation and shouldn't affect Fedora
CoreOS. (dustymabe, 17:18:04)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/golang1.21
(dustymabe, 17:18:55)
* DWM: we don't anticipate any fallout from this but our installed
FCOS packages will at least test this when it lands in rawhide and
thus in our rawhide stream. (dustymabe, 17:22:05)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/LibuserDeprecation
(dustymabe, 17:22:32)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AllowRemovalOfTzdata
(dustymabe, 17:26:56)
* DWM: we think we need to keep the tzdata package around since
existing installs could be leveraging that data. (dustymabe,
17:30:21)
* open floor (dustymabe, 17:30:47)
Meeting ended at 17:33:09 UTC.
Action Items
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* marmijo[m] will explore trying to pin the kernel just on one
architecture to see if we think it will work for the next round of
releases.
Action Items, by person
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* marmijo[m]
* marmijo[m] will explore trying to pin the kernel just on one
architecture to see if we think it will work for the next round of
releases.
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* dustymabe (117)
* zodbot (19)
* jmarrero (18)
* spresti (16)
* marmijo[m] (13)
* ravanell_ (6)
* JasonBrooks[m] (6)
* gursewak (1)
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