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Fedora CoreOS Meeting Minutes 2023-08-30
by Dusty Mabe 30 Aug '23

30 Aug '23

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2023-08-30/fedora_coreos… Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2023-08-30/fedora_coreos… Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2023-08-30/fedora_coreos… ======================================== #fedora-meeting-1: fedora_coreos_meeting ======================================== Meeting started by dustymabe at 16:29:06 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2023-08-30/fedora_coreos… . Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (dustymabe, 16:29:11) * Action items from last meeting (dustymabe, 16:36:06) * travier has asked the rpm-ostree/ostree folks to take a look (dustymabe, 16:37:50) * sshd.socket going away in Fedora 39 (dustymabe, 16:38:17) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1558 (dustymabe, 16:38:22) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2025716#c14 (travier, 16:40:00) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org… (travier, 16:41:21) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issues (smooge, 16:48:13) * ACTION: dustymabe or travier to file a fesco ticket to see if the change should be moved to F40 (dustymabe, 16:49:13) * AGREED: we will open a ticket with FESCO to see if this change would be better suited for Fedora 40. If it lands in F40 then we'll publish a CLHM helper to let people know the change is coming. If it lands in F39 we'll keep the socket for a notice period and warn people of the coming change. (dustymabe, 16:53:25) * New Package Request: gvisor-tap-vsock (dustymabe, 16:53:42) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1557 (dustymabe, 16:53:46) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1557#issuecomment-16… (travier, 16:56:57) * AGREED: In order to enable podman-remote like use cases on HyperV and AppleHV we will include the gvisor-tap-vsock package. The size of 5.6M for gvforwarder and 12M for gvproxy is a concern, though. (dustymabe, 17:12:44) * LUKS Encryption fails after upgrade to 38.20230819.2.0 testing stream on bare metal installation (dustymabe, 17:13:26) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1555 (dustymabe, 17:13:30) * AGREED: We won't revert the kernel in our testing/next streams but we will be careful and not introduce this regression to our stable stream for the next round of releases. We will monitor the upstream discussion surrounding the bug and try to deliver a fixed kernel in the next set of testing/next releases. (dustymabe, 17:27:16) * Handling of default users/groups (dustymabe, 17:27:58) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/155 (dustymabe, 17:28:02) * open floor (dustymabe, 17:29:06) Meeting ended at 17:32:20 UTC. Action Items ------------ * dustymabe or travier to file a fesco ticket to see if the change should be moved to F40 Action Items, by person ----------------------- * dustymabe * dustymabe or travier to file a fesco ticket to see if the change should be moved to F40 * travier * dustymabe or travier to file a fesco ticket to see if the change should be moved to F40 * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * dustymabe (107) * travier (54) * zodbot (15) * spresti (14) * smooge (9) * ravanelli (6) * aaradhak (3) * marmijo (3) * gursewak (2) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora CoreOS Group Weekly Meeting
by dusty＠dustymabe.com 29 Aug '23

29 Aug '23

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora CoreOS Group Weekly Meeting on 2023-08-30 from 16:30:00 to 17:30:00 UTC At fedora-meeting-1(a)irc.libera.chat The meeting will be about: This is the meeting for the Fedora CoreOS Working Group. We typically go over previous meeting action items and then cover all tickets with the meeting keyword: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/labels/meeting. For how to run the meeting, see https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker#steps-to-run-the-meeting Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/9437/

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Fedora CoreOS Meeting Minutes 2023-08-23
by Steven Presti 23 Aug '23

23 Aug '23

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2023-08-23/fedora_coreos… Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2023-08-23/fedora_coreos… Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2023-08-23/fedora_coreos… ======================================== #fedora-meeting-1: fedora_coreos_meeting ======================================== Meeting started by spresti at 16:30:38 UTC. The full logs are available athttps://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2023-08-23/fedora_core… . Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (spresti, 16:31:02) * Action items from last meeting (spresti, 16:34:29) * there were no action items from last meeting (spresti, 16:34:40) * ConditionNeedsUpdate= (systemd unit) will never trigger (spresti, 16:35:35) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1538 (spresti, 16:35:45) * ACTION: travier will bring that issue to the rpm-ostree / ostree team (travier, 16:48:42) * Ship moby-engine 23.0.x in Fedora CoreOS (spresti, 16:49:01) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1476 (spresti, 16:49:21) * AGREED: we will pick up the moby-engine update when our streams transition to Fedora 39. We will add a note to our f39 release communication about the update and any considerations that need to be made. (spresti, 17:03:49) * New Package Request: audit (spresti, 17:04:16) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1362 (spresti, 17:04:29) * LINK: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/audit/blob/rawhide/f/audit.spec#_20 (travier, 17:10:28) * LINK: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/audit/blob/rawhide/f/audit.spec#_152 (dustymabe, 17:12:01) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1362#issuecomment-16… (travier, 17:13:10) * AGREED: We'll fix the remaining issues in the audit package and we'll include it in Fedora CoreOS once ready (spresti, 17:17:40) * Handling of default users/groups (spresti, 17:18:17) * tracker: Fedora 39 changes considerations (spresti, 17:20:17) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1491 (spresti, 17:20:28) * Open Floor (spresti, 17:22:29) * LINK: https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-39/f-39-key-tasks.html (dustymabe, 17:23:46) Meeting ended at 17:29:14 UTC. Action Items ------------ * travier will bring that issue to the rpm-ostree / ostree team Action Items, by person ----------------------- * travier * travier will bring that issue to the rpm-ostree / ostree team * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * travier (69) * dustymabe (58) * spresti (50) * zodbot (18) * aaradhak (3) * marmijo (2) * ravanelli (2) * davdunc (1) * siosm (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions <https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2023-06-21/fedora_coreos…>

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora CoreOS Group Weekly Meeting
by dusty＠dustymabe.com 22 Aug '23

22 Aug '23

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora CoreOS Group Weekly Meeting on 2023-08-23 from 16:30:00 to 17:30:00 UTC At fedora-meeting-1(a)irc.libera.chat The meeting will be about: This is the meeting for the Fedora CoreOS Working Group. We typically go over previous meeting action items and then cover all tickets with the meeting keyword: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/labels/meeting. For how to run the meeting, see https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker#steps-to-run-the-meeting Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/9437/

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Fedora CoreOS Meeting Minutes 2023-08-16
by Dusty Mabe 16 Aug '23

16 Aug '23

======================================== #fedora-meeting-1: fedora_coreos_meeting ======================================== Meeting started by dustymabe at 16:31:10 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2023-08-16/fedora_coreos… . Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (dustymabe, 16:31:15) * Action items from last meeting (dustymabe, 16:36:32) * New Package Request: AWS amazon-ssm-agent for AWS EC2 AMI (dustymabe, 16:37:57) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1537 (dustymabe, 16:38:03) * AGREED: We will not include the amazon-ssm-agent in Fedora CoreOS. We have generally not shipped cloud agents in the past and the package is only available from third party repos. If users want to layer this package they have that option. (dustymabe, 16:46:41) * low memory systems with large disks fail to provision (dustymabe, 16:47:29) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1535 (dustymabe, 16:47:32) * AGREED: We will attempt to make the autosave-xfs code not request a reprovision if the memory in the system is too low. We will also develop a CLHM helper script that checks agcount in the root filesystem (if it is XFS) and give the user a proper message if it's too low. (dustymabe, 17:06:48) * Low memory machines fails to intialize/boot fcos (dustymabe, 17:07:16) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1540 (dustymabe, 17:07:20) * LINK: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora/latest/release-notes/welcome/Ha… (travier, 17:09:06) * we have documentation for minimum system requirements at https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora/latest/release-notes/welcome/Ha… (dustymabe, 17:12:20) * tracker: Fedora 39 changes considerations (dustymabe, 17:15:30) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1491 (dustymabe, 17:15:35) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/LibuserDeprecation (dustymabe, 17:16:12) * This should not impact us. rpm-ostree and ostree do not link to libuser. (dustymabe, 17:18:52) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/LLVM-17 (dustymabe, 17:19:20) * This should not affect us or should be transparent. (dustymabe, 17:19:54) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/MigrateIfcfgToKeyfile (dustymabe, 17:20:25) * This should not affect us. Fedora CoreOS never supported ifcfg style network configuration files. (dustymabe, 17:20:42) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/IBus_1.5.29 (dustymabe, 17:21:18) * Nothing to do. We don't ship IBUS. (dustymabe, 17:21:56) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Indic_Noto_fonts (dustymabe, 17:22:17) * We don't ship fonts. (dustymabe, 17:22:27) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AnacondaWebUIforFedoraWorkstation (dustymabe, 17:22:50) * Nothing for us to do. We don't ship Anaconda and this change is targetted at Workstation. (dustymabe, 17:23:22) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BuildJdkOncePackEverywhere (dustymabe, 17:23:41) * Nothing to do. We don't ship Java. (dustymabe, 17:23:54) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GNUToolchainF39 (dustymabe, 17:24:12) * This would should be transparent to us. We'll pick up packages as they get rebuilt and actively test them in our `rawhide` stream. (dustymabe, 17:24:39) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/cleanup_systemd_install (dustymabe, 17:25:30) * Nothing for us to do. We will continue to use GRUB for now. (dustymabe, 17:27:07) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoCustomQtThemingForWorkstation (dustymabe, 17:27:29) * Nothing for us to do. This one is Workstation specific. (dustymabe, 17:27:40) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RetireModularity (dustymabe, 17:27:56) * We've already done some work in https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1513 to remove modular repos from F39+. (dustymabe, 17:30:03) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/sericea-xorgless (dustymabe, 17:30:32) * Nothing for us to do. This is Sericea and Sway spin specific. (dustymabe, 17:30:45) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Python_Extension_Flags_Reduction (dustymabe, 17:31:04) * Nothing for us to do. We don't ship python. (dustymabe, 17:31:24) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Passkey_authentication_centrally_man… (dustymabe, 17:31:45) * No work for us to do here. If there are AD managed FCOS systems I imagine the change could be picked up by them. (dustymabe, 17:32:36) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ibus-anthy_1.5.15 (dustymabe, 17:33:03) * Nothing for us to do. We don't ship ibus. (dustymabe, 17:33:12) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/KDEKinoiteAutoUpdateByDefault (dustymabe, 17:33:29) * Nothing for us to do. This is kinoite specific. (dustymabe, 17:33:42) * open floor (dustymabe, 17:33:49) Meeting ended at 17:37:36 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * dustymabe (148) * travier (45) * zodbot (16) * spresti (14) * ravanelli (4) * jmarrero (4) * gursewak (3) * marmijo (2) * aaradhak85 (2) * mnguyen (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora CoreOS Group Weekly Meeting
by dusty＠dustymabe.com 15 Aug '23

15 Aug '23

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora CoreOS Group Weekly Meeting on 2023-08-16 from 16:30:00 to 17:30:00 UTC At fedora-meeting-1(a)irc.libera.chat The meeting will be about: This is the meeting for the Fedora CoreOS Working Group. We typically go over previous meeting action items and then cover all tickets with the meeting keyword: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/labels/meeting. For how to run the meeting, see https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker#steps-to-run-the-meeting Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/9437/

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Fedora CoreOS Meeting Minutes 2023-08-09
by Timothée Ravier 09 Aug '23

09 Aug '23

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2023-08-09/fedora_coreos… Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2023-08-09/fedora_coreos… Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2023-08-09/fedora_coreos… ======================================== #fedora-meeting-1: fedora_coreos_meeting ======================================== Meeting started by travier at 16:30:37 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2023-08-09/fedora_coreos… . Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (travier, 16:30:41) * Meeting cancelled (travier, 16:47:30) * Action items from last meeting (travier, 16:48:45) * ACTION: marmijo[m] will explore trying to pin the kernel just on one architecture to see if we think it will work for the next round of releases. (travier, 16:49:09) Meeting ended at 16:49:52 UTC. Action Items ------------ * marmijo[m] will explore trying to pin the kernel just on one architecture to see if we think it will work for the next round of releases. Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * marmijo[m] will explore trying to pin the kernel just on one architecture to see if we think it will work for the next round of releases. People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * travier (11) * zodbot (10) * jbrooks (3) * aaradhak (2) * travier_test (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora CoreOS Group Weekly Meeting
by dusty＠dustymabe.com 08 Aug '23

08 Aug '23

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora CoreOS Group Weekly Meeting on 2023-08-09 from 16:30:00 to 17:30:00 UTC At fedora-meeting-1(a)irc.libera.chat The meeting will be about: This is the meeting for the Fedora CoreOS Working Group. We typically go over previous meeting action items and then cover all tickets with the meeting keyword: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/labels/meeting. For how to run the meeting, see https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker#steps-to-run-the-meeting Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/9437/

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Fedora CoreOS Meeting Minutes 2023-08-02
by Dusty Mabe 02 Aug '23

02 Aug '23

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2023-08-02/fedora_coreos… Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2023-08-02/fedora_coreos… Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2023-08-02/fedora_coreos… ======================================== #fedora-meeting-1: fedora_coreos_meeting ======================================== Meeting started by dustymabe at 16:30:19 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2023-08-02/fedora_coreos… . Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (dustymabe, 16:30:23) * Action items from last meeting (dustymabe, 16:33:59) * There were no action items from last meeting (dustymabe, 16:34:50) * kola reprovision tests are failing on ppc64le (dustymabe, 16:35:32) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1489 (dustymabe, 16:35:36) * AGREED: Since our install base is low we will attempt to pin the kernel for just ppc64le. If that is not an option then we will pin for all for next week's releases and then unpin for all the next cycle or if an important CVE comes in. (dustymabe, 17:01:07) * ACTION: marmijo[m] will explore trying to pin the kernel just on one architecture to see if we think it will work for the next round of releases. (dustymabe, 17:02:26) * Platform Request - Apple native hypervisor (dustymabe, 17:02:41) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1533 (dustymabe, 17:02:46) * LINK: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/hypervisor (jmarrero, 17:07:00) * AGREED: There are still some details to work out but adding this platform seems like a good idea to enable FCOS use cases on apple hardware, including podman machine and podman desktop. (dustymabe, 17:14:31) * tracker: Fedora 39 changes considerations (dustymabe, 17:14:55) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1491 (dustymabe, 17:14:59) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ImproveDefaultFontHandling (dustymabe, 17:15:46) * DWM: This should not affect us we don't ship fonts packages. (dustymabe, 17:16:49) * DWM: This is for Fedora Workstation and shouldn't affect Fedora CoreOS. (dustymabe, 17:18:04) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/golang1.21 (dustymabe, 17:18:55) * DWM: we don't anticipate any fallout from this but our installed FCOS packages will at least test this when it lands in rawhide and thus in our rawhide stream. (dustymabe, 17:22:05) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/LibuserDeprecation (dustymabe, 17:22:32) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AllowRemovalOfTzdata (dustymabe, 17:26:56) * DWM: we think we need to keep the tzdata package around since existing installs could be leveraging that data. (dustymabe, 17:30:21) * open floor (dustymabe, 17:30:47) Meeting ended at 17:33:09 UTC. Action Items ------------ * marmijo[m] will explore trying to pin the kernel just on one architecture to see if we think it will work for the next round of releases. Action Items, by person ----------------------- * marmijo[m] * marmijo[m] will explore trying to pin the kernel just on one architecture to see if we think it will work for the next round of releases. * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * dustymabe (117) * zodbot (19) * jmarrero (18) * spresti (16) * marmijo[m] (13) * ravanell_ (6) * JasonBrooks[m] (6) * gursewak (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora CoreOS Group Weekly Meeting
by dusty＠dustymabe.com 01 Aug '23

01 Aug '23

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora CoreOS Group Weekly Meeting on 2023-08-02 from 16:30:00 to 17:30:00 UTC At fedora-meeting-1(a)irc.libera.chat The meeting will be about: This is the meeting for the Fedora CoreOS Working Group. We typically go over previous meeting action items and then cover all tickets with the meeting keyword: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/labels/meeting. For how to run the meeting, see https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker#steps-to-run-the-meeting Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/9437/

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