council March 2015

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fedora project projects
by Matthew Miller 19 Mar '15

19 Mar '15

In going through the project structure wiki, I've come across a thing I've always thought a little funny. Fedora Project is an umbrella term, and underneath that, we have an official thing called a ... Project. Does anyone object to consistently referring to these as, instead, Subprojects? Additionally, while <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Defining_projects> has a formal procedure for these subprojects, we haven't particularly followed up on things like "Projects at this stage are expected to provide regular progress reports and to maintain an active state." As we were talking about having some of the Council meetings being reporting-focused, I think this might be a natural fit for bringing reality in line with the documentation. On the other hand, the section on SIGs focuses on the path to becoming a full Project Project, while the praxis is really captured in the last sentences: "It is possible for SIGs to exist indefinitely in this manner if the contributors feel there is no need for official project status. Indeed, many SIGs are sufficiently narrow in focus that they do not require project status to fulfill their missions." Here, I think it'd be better to rewrite this to put the SIGs-as-they-are aspect first and the incubator possibility as second. And then, of course, there's no mention of the Fedora.next structure here at all. The Working Groups we established are in many ways effectively each Subprojects (and the standards they're meant to be held to are similar); should they be considered as part of that, or as something distinct? -- Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader

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Council Meeting Minutes for Monday March 16th
by Josh Boyer 17 Mar '15

17 Mar '15

===================================== #fedora-meeting: Council (2015-03-16) ===================================== Meeting started by mattdm at 17:00:16 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-03-16/fedora-meeting.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * introductions, welcome (mattdm, 17:00:21) * agenda (mattdm, 17:02:20) * agenda (mattdm, 17:02:27) * outreach steering committee (mattdm, 17:04:49) * ACTION: cwickert to finish outreach summary later today, ask for input (mattdm, 17:07:46) * third-party repos (mattdm, 17:09:55) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DisabledRepoSupport (jreznik, 17:11:23) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Third_Party_Repository_Policy (mattdm, 17:13:01) * ACTION: decause start sourcing a "FOSS Alternatives" resource page (decause, 17:31:42) * AGREED: "The Council must individually approve search enablement for any third party repository on a case-by-case basis. The justification must include how the content will advance the Fedora project's mission." (mattdm, 18:02:58) * wrap-up (mattdm, 18:05:41) * ACTION: sgallagh and decause to get together about the university objective proposal (mattdm, 18:06:56) Meeting ended at 18:08:16 UTC. Action Items ------------ * cwickert to finish outreach summary later today, ask for input * decause start sourcing a "FOSS Alternatives" resource page * sgallagh and decause to get together about the university objective proposal Action Items, by person ----------------------- * cwickert * cwickert to finish outreach summary later today, ask for input * decause * decause start sourcing a "FOSS Alternatives" resource page * sgallagh and decause to get together about the university objective proposal * sgallagh * sgallagh and decause to get together about the university objective proposal * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * mattdm (87) * jwb (84) * sgallagh (55) * jreznik (37) * stickster (27) * langdon (24) * decause (20) * inode0 (9) * rdieter (6) * cwickert (6) * zodbot (4) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4

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New outreach trac and IRC channel
by Christoph Wickert 16 Mar '15

16 Mar '15

Hi, thanks to Remy we already have a Trac instance at http://fedorahosted.org/fosco and the #fedora-outreach IRC channel on Freenode. I'm sure they will be useful to coordinate our efforts. Best regards, Christoph

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Next meeting! Monday March 16th at 17:00 UTC, #fedora-meeting
by Matthew Miller 16 Mar '15

16 Mar '15

Hi everyone! The first council IRC meeting went well, and while I still hope to not be meeting-driven overall, it looks like we have some momentum going and there was interest in doing it again sooner rather than later, so we will have a second meeting this coming Monday, March 16th, at 17:00 UTC (1pm US/Eastern). This will again be an IRC meeting in the #fedora-meeting channel on Freenode. I'll send out an agenda Monday morning -- if you have items you want on that agenda, reply here. We discussed eventually going to a cadence of alternating between ongoing work items and reports / presentations on specific topics and subprojects. That seems like a great plan to me and I'll work on figuring out the specifics. I'd like to keep to an hour timeslot, too. That means that in meetings not dedicated to a specific topic, we probably only have a few minutes per item. To make those minutes meaningful, we should use them to find points of agreement or identify blockers to getting there, and then identify responsible council members (or others) to work out those issues outside the meeting. If we try to hash everything out in IRC, it's going to be a three-hour meeting every time. -- Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader

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[council] #20: Request to extend the mandate of current members of FAmSCo
by fedora-badges 16 Mar '15

16 Mar '15

#20: Request to extend the mandate of current members of FAmSCo -----------------------+------------------ Reporter: eischmann | Owner: Status: new | Priority: major Component: Other | Keywords: -----------------------+------------------ Hi, we're currently figuring out how to reorganize the outreach part of the Project to meet today's needs better. FAmSCo most likely will be dissolved and replaced by FOSCo. In FAmSCo [1], we agree that it doesn't make much sense to organize elections to a body that is going to cease to exist in a couple of months. Instead we'd like to ask the Council as a higher authority to extend our mandate till the F22 release to figure out a new governance model and make a transition from FAmSCo to FOSCo. The new elections should already be to the new body after F22. [1] http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora- meeting-2/2014-11-25/famsco_2014-11-25.2014-11-25-16.00.html -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/council/ticket/20> council <https://fedorahosted.org/council> Fedora Council Public Tickets

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Re: [council] #8: Fedora Gear Store
by fedora-badges 16 Mar '15

16 Mar '15

#8: Fedora Gear Store ---------------------+--------------------- Reporter: mattdm | Owner: Status: closed | Priority: normal Component: General | Resolution: closed Keywords: | ---------------------+--------------------- Changes (by mattdm): * resolution: => closed * status: reopened => closed Comment: This is a thing (and has been for a couple of months)! Thanks Ruth! http://store.fedoraproject.org/ -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/council/ticket/8#comment:9> council <https://fedorahosted.org/council> Fedora Council Public Tickets

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Re: [council] #1: Periodic user/contributor survey
by fedora-badges 15 Mar '15

15 Mar '15

#1: Periodic user/contributor survey ----------------------+---------------------- Reporter: mattdm | Owner: decause Status: accepted | Priority: major Component: General | Resolution: Keywords: | ----------------------+---------------------- Changes (by decause): * owner: somebody => decause * cc: decause@… (added) * status: new => accepted -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/council/ticket/1#comment:22> council <https://fedorahosted.org/council> Fedora Council Public Tickets

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[council] #24: updating Embargoed Nations wiki page for Board → Council
by fedora-badges 13 Mar '15

13 Mar '15

#24: updating Embargoed Nations wiki page for Board → Council ---------------------+------------------- Reporter: mattdm | Owner: Status: new | Priority: normal Component: General | Keywords: ---------------------+------------------- I'm updating various wiki pages to reflect current project structure. One such page is https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Embargoed_nations. This contains several statements about Fedora Board beliefs and findings. I would like to propose that we simply replace Board with Council everywhere it appears. I think this is non-controversial, since it is just a continuation of current policy, and would like to decide this by lazy approval; if there are no objections with 7 days, I will go ahead and make the change. I'm also going to send this to Fedora Legal because it seems to touch on that as well, but hopefully there's no concerns. -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/council/ticket/24> council <https://fedorahosted.org/council> Fedora Council Public Tickets

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Re: wiki updated for board -> council
by Tom Callaway 12 Mar '15

12 Mar '15

I fixed the trademark guidelines earlier today. :) On Mar 12, 2015 5:33 PM, Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > I've gone through a bunch of pages on the wiki and updated Board -> > Council where it made obvious sense, marked other pages as historic, > and in a couple of cases posted here about some sections that might n > need bigger changes or simply where I didn't quite feel comfortable > with search & replace. > > I'm sure there's plenty more — I didn't try to go through all of the > weekly report pages from 2006 and 2007 (and I don't think there's value > in doing that), or User pages — and there are a lot of translated pages > which need updating.* > > I'm going to mark that todo item as done. If you see anything I missed, > feel free to fix it directly, or contact me. There's a _lot_ of wiki, > with a lot of cruft. If you see anything I've botched, same deal. :) > > * Hmmm. I'm going to repost this to the translation team. > -- > Matthew Miller > <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> > Fedora Project Leader > _______________________________________________ > council-discuss mailing list > council-discuss(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/council-discuss

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wiki updated for board -> council
by Matthew Miller 12 Mar '15

12 Mar '15

I've gone through a bunch of pages on the wiki and updated Board -> Council where it made obvious sense, marked other pages as historic, and in a couple of cases posted here about some sections that might n need bigger changes or simply where I didn't quite feel comfortable with search & replace. I'm sure there's plenty more — I didn't try to go through all of the weekly report pages from 2006 and 2007 (and I don't think there's value in doing that), or User pages — and there are a lot of translated pages which need updating.* I'm going to mark that todo item as done. If you see anything I missed, feel free to fix it directly, or contact me. There's a _lot_ of wiki, with a lot of cruft. If you see anything I've botched, same deal. :) * Hmmm. I'm going to repost this to the translation team. -- Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader

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