Election: Better explain roles of Council
by Dhanesh B. Sabane
Greetings everyone!
CommOps recently took up the task of improving the election process[1]. With respect to that and based on the conversations which took place in FLOCK 2016, we believe that bringing more exposure to the Council's roles and responsibilities will hopefully encourage more nominations and candidates in elections[2].
One way we can accomplish this is by updating the wiki[3] to provide more comprehensive information about the *roles*, *responsibilities*, *benefits* and *skills needed* to be a Council member.
A request to all the members to provide feedback on how this can be better handled to benefit the upcoming elections.
[1] https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/90
[2] https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/93
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Council#Responsibilities
Regards,
Dhanesh B. Sabane [dhanesh95]
6 years, 6 months
action items from last meeting
by Matthew Miller
I excitingly forgot that #action doesn't give any context, so I've
added it:
Action items, by person:
bexelbie
bexelbie:
help deterimine if the Storyteller role concept is still
useful/functional, and further develop it if so
jwb
take ownership of code of conduct discussion, make
proposal with teeth
langdon
poke at advancing firefox privacy issue
ask ambassadors to write up a proposal for IRC SIG
mattdm
trac migration
send these action items
finish and send msg on why PRDs are important to Cloud and
Workstation
schedule PRD review meeting for Dec or so
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Matthew Miller
<mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>
Fedora Project Leader
6 years, 6 months
[council] #40: Enforcing the code of conduct
by fedora-badges
#40: Enforcing the code of conduct
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Reporter: duffy | Owner:
Status: new | Priority: normal
Component: Legal | Keywords: coc, code of conduct
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See this post from the outreach-list regarding the actual enforcement of
the code of conduct as currently written:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/outreach/2015-July/000067.html
Langdon asked that this be made a ticket for council discussion, with the
concern that an unenforceable / consequence without an SOP is a threat and
isn't the right way to go:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/outreach/2015-August/000073.html
For reference, the actual text is:
"FUDCon brings together contributors and users from all over the world and
this diversity is one of our greatest strengths. This diversity however
can also lead to communication issues and unhappiness. Attendees are
required to be considerate and respectful of each other. This includes,
but is not limited to:
- "Refraining from rude behaviour
- "Refraining from any sort of harassment or discrimination (based on
ethnic background, religion, gender, sexuality, body shape, disability,
geographic location, sports team, preferred operating system or anything
else)
- "Obeying local laws
"Attendees who are in violation of this policy may be subject to removal
and banning from FUDCon (and future Fedora events). Whether an attendee is
in violation is at the sole discretion of the conference organizers.
Anyone with a possible concern relating to the code of conduct is
encouraged to either email Rupali Talwatkar or talk directly to one of the
designated FUDCon volunteers. Designated FUDCon volunteers will have a
dark blue coloured VOLUNTEER badge."
The line of particular concern here is:
"Attendees who are in violation of this policy may be subject to removal
and
banning from FUDCon (and future Fedora events)."
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Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/council/ticket/40>
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Fedora Council Public Tickets
6 years, 7 months
[council] #74: Moving off of Trac to someting
by fedora-badges
#74: Moving off of Trac to someting
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Reporter: bex | Owner:
Status: new | Priority: normal
Component: Board Meta | Keywords:
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It looks like most people are trying to make pagure.io work. My initial
impression is it is going to be a rough around the edges.
We need to decide what we want to do and whether we want to talk to infra
about possibly standing up an issue tracker more like trac.
I will ask @jflory7 to post in this ticket about his experiences using
pagure.io with commops.
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Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/council/ticket/74>
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Fedora Council Public Tickets
6 years, 7 months
[council] #53: privacy policy should be updated to describe the
privacy of Fedora installations, not participation in Fedora events
by fedora-badges
#53: privacy policy should be updated to describe the privacy of Fedora
installations, not participation in Fedora events
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Reporter: zbyszek | Owner:
Status: new | Priority: normal
Component: General | Keywords:
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== How the privacy policy is specified ==
/usr/lib/os-release contains
PRIVACY_POLICY_URL=https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:PrivacyPolicy.
PRIVACY_POLICY_URL is documented to "refer to the main privacy policy page
for the operati[ng] system" [1]. This line was added to allow Gnome to
display a link to the privacy policy without hardcoding the text or URL.
It is currently shown by gnome-initial-setup [2].
[1] https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/os-
release.html#HOME_URL=
[2] https://in.waw.pl/~zbyszek/fedora/gnome-i-s-privacy-policy-
screenshot.png
== Recent attempts at updating ==
There have been two drafts that I'm aware of:
- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pfrields/PrivacyPolicyRedux
discussed at [3]
- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Spot/PrivacyPolicyProposal discussed
at [4]
[3]
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/desktop/2015-March/011700.html
[4] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/council-
discuss/2015-September/013633.html
Neither of those significantly address issues that have been raised in
response to both proposals.
== What is wrong with current policy ==
[This part is subjective of course, please read it as prefixed with "IMO"
everywhere]
As stated in $subject, it's a policy for a different purpose. The privacy
policy used as "the privacy policy for the OS" should primarily and
prominently describe what information is collected (or otherwise made
public) when Fedora is installed, when a user account on the Fedora
machine is created, and in normal use of Fedora.
Crafting a clear and simple policy will make a good impression that Fedora
Project cares about it's users privacy, and is safe to use in situations
where preserving personal information is important.
A general problem is that existing policy and proposed draft do not make a
clear distinction between a) installing Fedora and downloading updates, b)
creating accounts for Fedora development and using the bug tracker, c)
participating in Fedora conferences and such. Those three broad categories
have completely different privacy implications. Without being clear to
which of those the policy pertains means that the policy greatly
overstates the types of information being collected. In effect the policy
is much more relaxed (i.e. bad for the users) than it could be.
Specific issues raised:
Should there be mention of NetworkManager-config-connectivity-fedora? (ie,
checking http://fedoraproject.org/static/hotspot.txt for captive portal)
[5]
In the section about 'Cookies and other Browser information', it might be
useful to mention that the 'User Agent ID' of Browsers that are packaged
in Fedora is configured to identify the system as running Fedora. [6]
For example, the list in "Publicly Available Personal Information" really
isn't palatable. A better way of showing this might be to say: "the
information you give when creating your account will be public by default.
You can see what data is publicly visible <here> (link to the public page
for the user), modify your privacy settings <here>, and request deletion
of the account <here>" [7]
I also don't like the "Personal Information" vs. "Non-Personal
Information". It might be how a lawyer works, but just because it pertains
to a computer and not to a person doesn't make it less identifying. [7]
the privacy policy needs to refer to "user account" in such way that it'll
be clear that it's talking about accounts for contributors (FAS) and not a
user account on your system or an online account you add via GOA, to make
it clear Fedora doesn't scrape your name (or other identifying details)
from Google / Facebook accounts added via GOA, nor the "Full Name" field
of user accounts on your computer. [8]
> we may disclose personally identifiable information about you to third
parties
> in limited circumstances, including:
> ...
> - for research activities, including the production of statistical
reports (such
> aggregated information is used to describe our services and is not used
to
> contact the subjects of the report).
> ""
AFAIK, in Germany, it's the laws that any such "passing on personal
information" needs to be opt-in - "Opt-out" and "always-on" would be
unlawful. [10]
What procedures are being put in place so that EU residents (and hopefully
everyone) can contact Fedora or Red Hat to obtain/understand/verify/delete
their machine data, beyond obviously personal data?
[5] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/council-
discuss/2015-September/013643.html
[6]
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/desktop/2015-March/011703.html
[7]
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/desktop/2015-March/011727.html
[8]
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/desktop/2015-March/011729.html
[9] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/council-
discuss/2015-September/013637.html
[10] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/council-
discuss/2015-September/013637.html
[11] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/council-
discuss/2015-September/013649.html
== tl; dr ==
The policy is too complicated, yet lacks detail and does not provide
strong guarantees.
Statements like "The Information We Collect ... your Fedora Account
password .. your SSH public key ... your affiliation" are not appropriate
for a page linked to from the "Privacy Policy" link displayed during
installation.
I hope the Council can help to push towards a better policy document.
Currently things seem to be stuck in minimal edits over the last year and
half. Maybe the document should be opened for public editing on a wiki
somewhere so that people can rearrange the text and take it further from
current form. If the Council accepted the general idea of providing strong
privacy guarantees things could move forward.
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Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/council/ticket/53>
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