video meeting to discuss Matrix/Element and IRC
by Matthew Miller
As mentioned, we're looking at moving the Fedora Council's main chat to
Matrix. And as part of that, we're considering a hosted Element server --
which obviously could go quite beyond just #fedora-council. Neal suggested a
video meeting to talk with interested people about this, and so I set up
this when-is-good
http://whenisgood.net/k5brwbd
Anyone interested in a preliminary chat about all of this, please sign up
with your FAS id and availability. Nothing is sent in stone or decided
already, although I must say I'm pretty excited about Element's open source
software-as-a-service offering based on what I've heard from them so far.
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Matthew Miller
<mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>
Fedora Project Leader
3 years
Sending a bulk digest to a list from discourse is trickier than I'd
thought
by Matthew Miller
... because while Discourse has a per-user digest feature, it doesn't have a
non-user-associated way to send such a message. I considered setting up a
dedicated account just for this purpose, but Smooge has talked me out of it.
We've got several other options:
1. Just close the list with one final message.
2. Close the list and add an auto-response directing to the new location.
3. Close the list and post a message montly reminding people to migrate if
they're still interested in following.
4. Develop something that uses the Discourse API to provide an automatic
summary.
5. Other ideas?
My personal thought is option 2, but I'd like to hear what you all think.
(I know I just said we should actually move where we're discussing things
starting now, but this particular topic seems of most interest to current
mailing list subscribers?)
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Matthew Miller
<mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>
Fedora Project Leader
3 years
We're planning to move Council discussions
by Matthew Miller
Hi all. At today's Fedora Council "virtual face-to-face" meeting, we
decided that it's time to move our discussion from this mailing list
and IRC to more modern platforms: namely, Discourse via
https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/ and Matrix via ... something yet
to be determined, but probably initially a channel on element.io and
then eventually our own server.
Some Fedora Teams, like the Magazine, have already moved from the
mailing list, and noted a significant increase in visiblity and
participation. The fact is, even those of us who proudly self-identify
as "old school" are reluctant to sign up for yet-another-mailing-list
these days. It's a serious barrier to project entry.
And IRC ... it's served us well, but... it's also not kept up, and it's
*long* been a problem we've seen in attracting new contributors. More
and more new projects turn to Slack or Discord for their real-time
discussions. I'd like us to move to something open source while such
things are viable, and hopefully by doing so help them stay
competitive. Since we don't have a Matrix server up and running, this
is a little further off, but I wanted to mention it here.
In any case, we plan to:
* Bridge IRC and Matrix, so that you can stay on IRC and interact if
that's your preference. Freenode isn't going away anytime soon!
* Plan to port zodbot to be a Matrix-native bot, so we can have logged
meetings, cookies-with-badges, adamw "firing" people, etc.
* Retire this list for new posts (tentatively, starting December 1st),
and instead direct conversation to
https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/c/project/council-discuss/60
* Set up a bot to automatically post summaries of discussion from that
category to this list, so that long-term subscribers aren't left out
Note that unlike a "BB"-style web forum, you can interact with
discussion.fedoraproject.org via email, including getting individual
new posts and responding in your mail client. It isn't quite a
first-class experience, though -- there are many features which are web
only.
Any questions about any of this? Anything I haven't thought of?
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Matthew Miller
<mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>
Fedora Project Leader
3 years
