2018-02-15 2:17 GMT+01:00 Radka Janekova <radka.janek@redhat.com>:
On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 9:24 PM, Matthew Miller <mattdm@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 08:09:20PM +0100, Radka Janekova wrote:
>  All the concerns raised would be addressed by what I was/am/will-be
> proposing, and as such I would suggest to not do any rushed decisions right
> now.

Can you outline what you're suggesting? I'm not sure we need to hold up
a wiki page edit -- "the perfect is the enemy of the good", after all.

Well I think that if we do want to point out to anything, we should also make sure that it's "safe." As far as I know none of the user communities (except Discord[1]) have any guidelines for moderation, systems to track the "naughty users," or automated antispam (which seems to be ever increasing issue especially on IRC.)

This is one of the things that I would like to address within the objective - getting common channels for the different communities, common guidelines, and somewhat common tooling which I (or e.g. a GSOC student) wouldn't have a problem implementing, which is all easily measurable and time bound to establish. I will be also mentoring a GSOC project[2] that aims to better allow contributors use these networks as well. Oh and I would like to find a way to link them more visibly than from the wiki, probably exploring options of redesigning the community page[3]

> Mindshare

If I understand it correctly that has nothing to do with *user* communities. Fedora project does not have anything user oriented and never did (IRC Sig - not really. The long forgotten working group? Not really, no. Both target(ed) our contributor-community. There is gigantic difference between contributors and users.)

I could sit down and put something together within the next week...

This is not correct, Mindshare is mostly about contributors but it's user focused (outreach), and within its goals there is also how to improve the status of local Fedora communities. And, btw, contributors also are users...


Robert Mayr