Glad to see more TOSW applied. /me still has concern we are aiming for stasis, rather than growth. What about new contribs? They are joining and it seems to me that they will concern local folks- there is only so much money to go around. New contribs = less money for people's existing events. We are using old flawed budget process to make our new process.... the same numbers? Methinks that's folly. Acting like there were no flaws makes the new process dubious (unless growth is included.) 

As a Fedoran I'm starting to worry that CentOS is Daddy Shadowman's *new toy* (as some FOSSers have predicted) and we are being placated. I see plenty of growth for RH, we make a good product/test bed. I can see how Cent can help, tho have concerns it's WHERE the new growth is planned.

WHERE is Fedora's growth? When has that been planned? 

I salute the efforts here, but can see the Voice thing to help encourage more funding might be needed or its

"Meet the new process (money), same as the old money,"


On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 6:15 AM, Remy DeCausemaker <> wrote:

On Apr 14, 2016 20:12, "Josh Boyer" <> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 7:43 PM, Remy DeCausemaker <> wrote:
> > Councils,
> >
> > Attached is a text file (and spreadsheet) with the scenarios we discussed
> > during our meeting.
> I'm going to guess D&I in the text file is Diversity and Inclusion?
> It isn't spelled out anywhere so I'd just like to clarify.

Yes, that is correct. Diversity and inclusion.

> > tl;dr - "Best Case Scenario" (lowest amount of Council/Events Budget) it's a
> > roughly 23% cut in budget for each region (except for APAC, but more on that
> > later)
> >
> > If you'd like to edit/adjust/append any info to these documents, they can be
> > found in the fedora-budget repo in FY17/adjustedannualbudget/council:
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks mattdm for helping to hunt down this info, and I'll add more
> > historical information as it comes from Ambassadors.
> I would really really like to see actual numbers from FY16 from all
> the regions before we really commit to any percentages based on
> historical context.  If we cannot get accurate reporting, we cannot do
> accurate planning.

Gee whiz, me too! I've only been asking for the tallied reports for a month now via IRC, mailing list, telegram, ticket, and word of mouth--pretty much everything but carrier pigeon. The only fully reported region is EMEA, and even then I still need them to select their storyteller delegate. We have some reports from the other regions, but they are incomplete, and supposedly in the process being updated. I'll update the budget site, and repo, and council, as I get more information.

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