On 27 October 2015 at 13:39, Gerold <gerold(a)lugd.org> wrote:
to be honest, since years this FAD brought Red Hat the numbers from EMEA
which they have to spend as budget for the next fiscal year, as well as an
outcome was, that we decided what are the strategic plans in SWAG, in Media
production, which event will be covered, wher ewe need to improve our
presence, what to do next to bring the community in front and so on and so
For me, this discussion looks like a finger pointing: "... Look they burn
the money to have a funny weekend on our costs ..."
They want to get money for a location, for food and a social event which is,
sorry WAS planned a lazergame. The former FADs in Rheinfelden, which I
organised so far were amout the same amount of money and we also had every
year a social event which brings us away from the computer for a few hours
We covered in that event more than 10 nations in EMEA, brought together all
important "Country" LEader and had a hard weekend.
Most of us payed travel by their own, spending a whole weekend without
family, children and friends. I´d also like to say that on the most FAD´s in
Rheinfelden, a FPL showed up or some VIPs from Red Hat with a credit card
because they knew about the importance to get correct and planable numbers
For this year, it can be skipped and the budget numbers which we in EMEA
gave every year since I was part of it, can be imagined by the stars. I´m
really sorry about that point of viewing and I´m also more than just
disappointed by the short view of some individuals.
In the past did you ask for the money to be paid in advance? What was
your general lead time for setting this up? 30 days, 60 days, 90 days?
If the answer is yes that the money needed to be paid in advance to
the hotel and other places and that the general setup time to get the
money to the hotel and events was short then yes this was a failure on
people's part to understand how things are done. And if it is a
failure then it needs to be better documented because the short notice
and being paid in advance are the parts that are causing people
consternation.. the lazer tag is a red herring (Ablenkungsmanöver?) It
is the part that a couple of people brought up but the real issue was
1) Short time to approve payments
2) Payment in advance when most events are paid afterwords.
Am 27.10.2015 um 20:05 schrieb council:
> #45: Sponsorship/Funding for FAD EMEA BUDAPEST 2015
> Reporter: rgeri77 | Owner: decause
> Status: new | Priority: normal
> Component: General | Resolution:
> Keywords: |
> Comment (by mattdm):
> Thanks for the update.
> I want to support the EMEA ambassadors in a) planning and b) working
> together as a group. So I'm generally in favor of having this _kind_ of
> FAD, including social events. But I want to be able to say with a
> face that this money all went to benefit Fedora. I want to be able to
> demonstrate the direct, positive impact, which is the only way we'll be
> able to ask for _more_, ever. And I want to be fair to the other regions
> as well. As we discussed on our previous phone call, EMEA has generally
> been very good about budget, and I'm sure that this FAD is part of that.
> But, given that the budget allocation is already underway and we won't
> have results until early next year, there isn't pressure to do this in a
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