On 1/7/19 1:59 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 4:38 PM Kevin Fenzi kevin@scrye.com wrote:
On 1/7/19 1:04 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: ...snip...
It'd be better if it was easier for more people to participate. We have a lot of infra-types. It's kind of amazing in a bad way that despite all that, we don't really have an easy way for more people to help on that side.
There definitely is...become an appentice, send patches for things, get added to other groups and help out with that area.
True more access takes more time, but we definitely have had community folks helping out.
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Well, I guess I've been doing the "sending patches" thing for different infrastructure things, but I don't know what this apprenticeship thing is... Any info about that anywhere?
it's pointed to from our getting started doc:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Apprentice
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openSUSE's donation program has the people usually ship the hardware to them to be set up by the openSUSE Heroes (their equivalent of the Fedora admin team). Alternatively, the route CentOS goes where control is handed over is an option, too. But I think we'd be better served by people giving us equipment (and maybe even money) and allowing people to work on their paid time to contribute to leveraging that infra.
I'm not sure the legal logistics of this. Is that a "donation"? Fedora doesn't exist as a legal entity to accept it as far as I know.
Also, we have been offered donated hardware in the past, but it's usually more trouble than it's worth. (ie, "I was about to toss this PentiumIII box out, but I thought I would donate it to you instead"). All these are things we could work out however. ...snip...
If there's not much holding it back, we should transition to it anyway. If it improves the management experience and performance of the Copr system, it'd be a huge boon.
I agree the hard part is hopefuly over, but there is still ongoing support (upgrades, updates, adding new machines, etc).
kevin