Ar 11/10/20 1:11 PM, scríobh Kevin Fenzi:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 09:48:43AM -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote:
Well, that was just eyeballing the github status and from some zulip
pages. In retrospect, it's really not an easy thing to say without being
involved in both communities... I mean I have no idea where matrix work
is going on (outside commits, which is probibly a poor measure).
I do occasionally watch the weekly developer calls and it is actually
quite active. You may have been looking at the repos related to the old
server; a lot of effort is going into a new server. The older server is
called synapse and dendrite is the new one. matrix.org
I believe is
running synapse but it should be a big upgrade when it moves to dendrite.
(last commit 4 days ago)
(last commit yesterday)
Matrix definitely has advantages over IRC, but I kind of feel like
not gone far enough... the zulip threading seems like a step up over
that. (Of course I have not used zulip day to day either).
I have a tiny bit of
experience with Zulip. When COVID started, the
non-profit org I am a board member of attempted to do remote meetings
through chat and we tried Zulip for 2-3 meetings (I think this past
April-May-June.) Let me say that this non-profit is *not* a techy
audience; it's a local coop for children and parents and the board
members are parents from the group. The threading system actually ended
up confusing the other board members and it didn't work out too well;
kind of similarly to how the Slack I have to use for one of the projects
I'm involved with gets confused with subthreads on the occasion they
come up. As a UX person, I do prefer the matrix reply-to style that
doesn't generate thread offshoots that aren't immediately visible or
obvious for users not experienced with the feature.
The reason we tried Zulip instead of Matrix is because I think our CRM
system at the time had some kind of Zulip integration. We ended up
dropping Zulip and just use the embedded chat in our video chat client
Anyhow, I'll see about setting up some demo or proof of concept
invite folks to take a look when time permits.
I also just want to put out there that I've been trying to put together
a small matrix homeserver on fedora infra to set up a telegram<=>matrix
bot (but I have no clue what I'm doing so it is going to probably take
me a few weeks.)
If we had our own matrix homeserver then it would be trivial to set up a
telegram bot. The telegram<=>matrix bot is *really* nicely integrated, I
tested one someone else had set up. It sets up "puppets" on either side
with the user profile details, and appears completely native to the
other system. It also allows for seamless DM between the two systems.
For better or worse we do have a community of some folks on telegram.
Right now the tg bot in the design channel causes a lot of confusion (am
I a bot, or am I human? lol) and doesn't allow DM between services.