Community domain request

[Daniel Bruno]

Hi,

I would like to request the subdomain latam.fedoracommunity.org to the
LATAM community website. Below are the details of the request:

Responsibles: Daniel Bruno (dbruno), Alejandro Perez (aeperezt).
Address: fedora-latam.org

Let me know if more information is needed.

Regards,
-- 
Daniel Bruno
http://dbruno.org
Mentor of Fedora Ambassadors on Latin America

[Robert Mayr]

2015-05-29 23:45 GMT+02:00 Daniel Bruno <dbruno(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:

>  Hi,
>
>  I would like to request the subdomain latam.fedoracommunity.org to the
>  LATAM community website. Below are the details of the request:
>
>  Responsibles: Daniel Bruno (dbruno), Alejandro Perez (aeperezt).
>  Address: fedora-latam.org
>
>  Let me know if more information is needed.
>
>  Regards,
>  --
>  Daniel Bruno
>  http://dbruno.org
>  Mentor of Fedora Ambassadors on Latin America
>
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>  

Hi Daniel,
could you also refer what should happen with all the other subdomains for
LATAM?
I guess this request is for spanish speaking LATAM Fedora users, but what
should happen to those communities which are actually on a non working
proyectofedora.org domain?
Maybe this is useful to the council too.
Thanks.

-- 
Robert Mayr
(robyduck)

[Daniel Bruno]

Hi,

In the last meeting we agreed to ask for the main domain for the region,
and the page will be in spanish and portuguese, that are the most spoken
languages in the region.
Also we agreed to standardize all webpages that are maintained by
ambassadors, for this we'll check those pages and ask the subdomains, the
first step is the regional subdomain.
Recently we lost the ownership of the domain proyectofedora.org, and the
domain was registered by a reseller, and we don't consider pay for it.

Regards,

On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Robert Mayr <robyduck(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;
wrote:

>  2015-05-29 23:45 GMT+02:00 Daniel Bruno
> <dbruno(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would like to request the subdomain latam.fedoracommunity.org to the
> > LATAM community website. Below are the details of the request:
> >
> > Responsibles: Daniel Bruno (dbruno), Alejandro Perez (aeperezt).
> > Address: fedora-latam.org
> >
> > Let me know if more information is needed.
> >
> > Regards,
> > --
> > Daniel Bruno
> > http://dbruno.org
> > Mentor of Fedora Ambassadors on Latin America
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > council-discuss mailing list
> > council-discuss(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/council-discuss
> >
>
>
>  Hi Daniel,
>  could you also refer what should happen with all the other subdomains for
>  LATAM?
>  I guess this request is for spanish speaking LATAM Fedora users, but what
>  should happen to those communities which are actually on a non working
>  proyectofedora.org domain?
>  Maybe this is useful to the council too.
>  Thanks.
>
>  --
>  Robert Mayr
>  (robyduck)
>
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>  council-discuss(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
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>  


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Mentor of Fedora Ambassadors on Latin America
Fedora Latin America Infrastructure Team

[Pierre-Yves Chibon]

On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 10:07:54PM -0300, Daniel Bruno wrote:
>     Hi,
>  
>     In the last meeting we agreed to ask for the main domain for the region,
>     and the page will be in spanish and portuguese, that are the most spoken
>     languages in the region.
>     Also we agreed to standardize all webpages that are maintained by
>     ambassadors, for this we'll check those pages and ask the subdomains, the
>     first step is the regional subdomain.
>     Recently we lost the ownership of the domain proyectofedora.org, and the
>     domain was registered by a reseller, and we don't consider pay for it. 
Fedora being a trademark registered by Red Hat, is this something we should
signal to Legal?
IIRC, there is a contract to sign with Legal when registering a domain name with
Fedora in it.


Pierre

[Paul W. Frields]

On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 09:09:55AM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
>  On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 10:07:54PM -0300, Daniel Bruno wrote:
>  >    Hi,
>  > 
>  >    In the last meeting we agreed to ask for the main domain for the region,
>  >    and the page will be in spanish and portuguese, that are the most spoken
>  >    languages in the region.
>  >    Also we agreed to standardize all webpages that are maintained by
>  >    ambassadors, for this we'll check those pages and ask the subdomains, the
>  >    first step is the regional subdomain.
>  >    Recently we lost the ownership of the domain proyectofedora.org, and the
>  >    domain was registered by a reseller, and we don't consider pay for it.
>  
>  Fedora being a trademark registered by Red Hat, is this something we should
>  signal to Legal?
>  IIRC, there is a contract to sign with Legal when registering a domain name with
>  Fedora in it. 
Correct, the applicable rules are here:

<https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Local_community_domains#Self-purchased_dom...

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[Alejandro Perez]

Hi,

Latam was using this domain proyectofedora.org for many years, the
domain owner stop supporting it (domain not been paid, server down,
etc). We do not want to use that domain as it has been an issue with with for years and
want to move forward. The main idea of this 
request
is to change this page that has bunch of broken links.


http://fedoracommunity.org/latam 

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Pierre-Yves Chibon <pingou(a)pingoured.fr&gt;
Reply-to: Discussions with the Fedora Council and community <council
-discuss(a)lists.fedoraproject.org&gt;
Para: Discussions with the Fedora Council and community <
council-discuss(a)lists.fedoraproject.org&gt;
Asunto: Re: Community domain request
Fecha: Sun, 31 May 2015 09:09:55 +0200

On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 10:07:54PM -0300, Daniel Bruno wrote:
>     Hi,
>  
>     In the last meeting we agreed to ask for the main domain for the 
>  region,
>     and the page will be in spanish and portuguese, that are the most 
>  spoken
>     languages in the region.
>     Also we agreed to standardize all webpages that are maintained by
>     ambassadors, for this we'll check those pages and ask the 
>  subdomains, the
>     first step is the regional subdomain.
>     Recently we lost the ownership of the domain proyectofedora.org, 
>  and the
>     domain was registered by a reseller, and we don't consider pay for 
>  it. 
Fedora being a trademark registered by Red Hat, is this something we
should
signal to Legal?
IIRC, there is a contract to sign with Legal when registering a domain
name with
Fedora in it.


Pierre
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[Paul W. Frields]

On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 11:55:45AM -0500, Alejandro Perez wrote:
>  Hi,
>  
>  Latam was using this domain proyectofedora.org for many years, the
>  domain owner stop supporting it (domain not been paid, server down,
>  etc). We do not want to use that domain as it has been an issue with with for years and
> want to move forward. The main idea of this 
>  request
>  is to change this page that has bunch of broken links.
>  
>  
>  http://fedoracommunity.org/latam  
I have a fedora-web patch that will do the trick, attached.  However,
it would be good to know if the communities in the various nations
(Argentina, Colombia, Mexico, Panama, Peru) would like additional
landing pages on fedora-latam.org.

Also, it would be good to determine whether the owner of
fedora-latam.org has a trademark license agreement, and if not, get
them covered by one, for the reasons shown in the page I linked
earlier.

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[Alejandro Perez]

Some of the countries will have that request we were talking and some
of them will request domains at like cl.fedoracommunity.org, but we are
talking about that.

On the other hand Fedora-latam.org and Fedora-pa.org has no trademark
agreement since I own both domains I can do it with no issue if you
point me to the right dirección, furthermore I like to pass those
domains to Fedora o Red Hat if it works better for the community.

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com&gt;
Reply-to: Discussions with the Fedora Council and community <council
-discuss(a)lists.fedoraproject.org&gt;
Para: council-discuss(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
Asunto: Re: Community domain request
Fecha: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 17:25:27 -0400

On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 11:55:45AM -0500, Alejandro Perez wrote:
>  Hi,
>  
>  Latam was using this domain proyectofedora.org for many years, the
>  domain owner stop supporting it (domain not been paid, server down,
>  etc). We do not want to use that domain as it has been an issue with 
>  with for years and want to move forward. The main idea of this 
>  request
>  is to change this page that has bunch of broken links.
>  
>  
>  http://fedoracommunity.org/latam  
I have a fedora-web patch that will do the trick, attached.  However,
it would be good to know if the communities in the various nations
(Argentina, Colombia, Mexico, Panama, Peru) would like additional
landing pages on fedora-latam.org.

Also, it would be good to determine whether the owner of
fedora-latam.org has a trademark license agreement, and if not, get
them covered by one, for the reasons shown in the page I linked
earlier.

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[Daniel Bruno]

We don't intend to use the domain fedora-latam.org as a domain, but the
domain latam.fedoracommunity.org.
I think that fedora-latam.org can be used as cname entry on the DNS, and
all the countries that don't have a domain
will use latam.fedoracommunity.org/<contry>;.

After that, to standardize and to avoid problems with the misuse of the
name, we'll advise the other countries that have
a own domain to ask for a subdomain too.

In the path, a substitution like s/fedora-latam/latam.fedoracommunity/
should match with what we are asking.


On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 11:55:45AM -0500, Alejandro Perez wrote:
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > Latam was using this domain proyectofedora.org for many years, the
>  > domain owner stop supporting it (domain not been paid, server down,
>  > etc). We do not want to use that domain as it has been an issue with
>  with for years and want to move forward. The main idea of this
>  > request
>  > is to change this page that has bunch of broken links.
>  >
>  >
>  > http://fedoracommunity.org/latam
>
>  I have a fedora-web patch that will do the trick, attached.  However,
>  it would be good to know if the communities in the various nations
>  (Argentina, Colombia, Mexico, Panama, Peru) would like additional
>  landing pages on fedora-latam.org.
>
>  Also, it would be good to determine whether the owner of
>  fedora-latam.org has a trademark license agreement, and if not, get
>  them covered by one, for the reasons shown in the page I linked
>  earlier.
>
>  --
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>    http://redhat.com/   -  -  -  -   http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/
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Mentor of Fedora Ambassadors on Latin America
Fedora Latin America Infrastructure Team

[Paul W. Frields]

On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 06:45:48PM -0300, Daniel Bruno wrote:
>  On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Paul W. Frields
> <stickster(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  > On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 11:55:45AM -0500, Alejandro Perez wrote:
>  > > Hi,
>  > >
>  > > Latam was using this domain proyectofedora.org for many years, the
>  > > domain owner stop supporting it (domain not been paid, server down,
>  > > etc). We do not want to use that domain as it has been an issue with
>  > with for years and want to move forward. The main idea of this
>  > > request
>  > > is to change this page that has bunch of broken links.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > http://fedoracommunity.org/latam
>  >
>  > I have a fedora-web patch that will do the trick, attached.  However,
>  > it would be good to know if the communities in the various nations
>  > (Argentina, Colombia, Mexico, Panama, Peru) would like additional
>  > landing pages on fedora-latam.org.
>  >
>  > Also, it would be good to determine whether the owner of
>  > fedora-latam.org has a trademark license agreement, and if not, get
>  > them covered by one, for the reasons shown in the page I linked
>  > earlier.
>  
>  We don't intend to use the domain fedora-latam.org as a domain, but the
>  domain latam.fedoracommunity.org.
>  I think that fedora-latam.org can be used as cname entry on the DNS, and
>  all the countries that don't have a domain
>  will use latam.fedoracommunity.org/<contry>;.
>  
>  After that, to standardize and to avoid problems with the misuse of the
>  name, we'll advise the other countries that have
>  a own domain to ask for a subdomain too.
>  
>  In the path, a substitution like s/fedora-latam/latam.fedoracommunity/
>  should match with what we are asking. 
Sorry about the confusion.  Forget that patch then! :-)

One more tip: It would be nice for the landing domain to have up to
date content, if that's going to be the server currently at
fedora-latam.org.  There's some outdated material there such as naming
for Fedora 20 currently.

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[Daniel Bruno]

Yeah, unfortunately the content is outdated and there is other issues with
this page,
but we'll work to upload a new page with updated content and design
following the
guidelines to attend the local needs. :-)


Thank you

On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 06:45:48PM -0300, Daniel Bruno wrote:
>  > On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com&gt;
>  wrote:
>  > > On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 11:55:45AM -0500, Alejandro Perez wrote:
>  > > > Hi,
>  > > >
>  > > > Latam was using this domain proyectofedora.org for many years, the
>  > > > domain owner stop supporting it (domain not been paid, server down,
>  > > > etc). We do not want to use that domain as it has been an issue with
>  > > with for years and want to move forward. The main idea of this
>  > > > request
>  > > > is to change this page that has bunch of broken links.
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > http://fedoracommunity.org/latam
>  > >
>  > > I have a fedora-web patch that will do the trick, attached.  However,
>  > > it would be good to know if the communities in the various nations
>  > > (Argentina, Colombia, Mexico, Panama, Peru) would like additional
>  > > landing pages on fedora-latam.org.
>  > >
>  > > Also, it would be good to determine whether the owner of
>  > > fedora-latam.org has a trademark license agreement, and if not, get
>  > > them covered by one, for the reasons shown in the page I linked
>  > > earlier.
>  >
>  > We don't intend to use the domain fedora-latam.org as a domain, but the
>  > domain latam.fedoracommunity.org.
>  > I think that fedora-latam.org can be used as cname entry on the DNS, and
>  > all the countries that don't have a domain
>  > will use latam.fedoracommunity.org/<contry>;.
>  >
>  > After that, to standardize and to avoid problems with the misuse of the
>  > name, we'll advise the other countries that have
>  > a own domain to ask for a subdomain too.
>  >
>  > In the path, a substitution like s/fedora-latam/latam.fedoracommunity/
>  > should match with what we are asking.
>
>  Sorry about the confusion.  Forget that patch then! :-)
>
>  One more tip: It would be nice for the landing domain to have up to
>  date content, if that's going to be the server currently at
>  fedora-latam.org.  There's some outdated material there such as naming
>  for Fedora 20 currently.
>
>  --
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Fedora Latin America Infrastructure Team

[Daniel Bruno]

Hi,

About the request, there is some question about?

Regards,

On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Daniel Bruno <dbruno(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;
wrote:

>  Yeah, unfortunately the content is outdated and there is other issues
> with
>  this page,
>  but we'll work to upload a new page with updated content and design
>  following the
>  guidelines to attend the local needs. :-)
>
>
>  Thank you
>
>  On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com&gt;
>  wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 06:45:48PM -0300, Daniel Bruno wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com&gt;
> > wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 11:55:45AM -0500, Alejandro Perez wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > Latam was using this domain proyectofedora.org for many years, the
> > > > > domain owner stop supporting it (domain not been paid, server down,
> > > > > etc). We do not want to use that domain as it has been an issue with
> > > > with for years and want to move forward. The main idea of this
> > > > > request
> > > > > is to change this page that has bunch of broken links.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > http://fedoracommunity.org/latam
> > > >
> > > > I have a fedora-web patch that will do the trick, attached.  However,
> > > > it would be good to know if the communities in the various nations
> > > > (Argentina, Colombia, Mexico, Panama, Peru) would like additional
> > > > landing pages on fedora-latam.org.
> > > >
> > > > Also, it would be good to determine whether the owner of
> > > > fedora-latam.org has a trademark license agreement, and if not, get
> > > > them covered by one, for the reasons shown in the page I linked
> > > > earlier.
> > >
> > > We don't intend to use the domain fedora-latam.org as a domain, but the
> > > domain latam.fedoracommunity.org.
> > > I think that fedora-latam.org can be used as cname entry on the DNS,
> > and
> > > all the countries that don't have a domain
> > > will use latam.fedoracommunity.org/<contry>;.
> > >
> > > After that, to standardize and to avoid problems with the misuse of the
> > > name, we'll advise the other countries that have
> > > a own domain to ask for a subdomain too.
> > >
> > > In the path, a substitution like s/fedora-latam/latam.fedoracommunity/
> > > should match with what we are asking.
> >
> > Sorry about the confusion.  Forget that patch then! :-)
> >
> > One more tip: It would be nice for the landing domain to have up to
> > date content, if that's going to be the server currently at
> > fedora-latam.org.  There's some outdated material there such as naming
> > for Fedora 20 currently.
> >
> > --
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>
>
>
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>  http://dbruno.org
>  Mentor of Fedora Ambassadors on Latin America
>  Fedora Latin America Infrastructure Team
>  


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