[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Council (Tickets and Ongoing)

Dear all,

You are kindly invited to the meeting:
   Council (Tickets and Ongoing) on 2017-07-26 from 09:00:00 to 10:00:00 US/Eastern
   At [e-mail]

The meeting will be about:
The Fedora Council will hold our regular Tickets and Ongoing meeting
at 9:00am US/Eastern in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. All are
welcome!

To convert to your local time, run:

TZ=US/Eastern date -d '9am tomorrow'

Tickets and Ongoing meetings happen every four weeks. We don't want
to be entirely ticket-driven (since that's a reactive process), but
this helps keep important issues from slipping through the cracks.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Council_Meetings#Tickets_and_Ongoing_Meetings

The primary chair for this meeting (usually the FPL or FCAIC) should
reply to this message with this week's agenda.

Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/5247/

[Matthew Miller]

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 09:00:04AM +0000, [e-mail] wrote:
> The Fedora Council will hold our regular Tickets and Ongoing meeting
> at 9:00am US/Eastern in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. All are
> welcome!
>   TZ=US/Eastern date -d '9am tomorrow'

Agenda items:

1. Trademark Approval Request: fedoraloves.net
   https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/128

2. Fedora Modules Guidelines and Process 
   https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/123

3. create draft page with mission statement, foundations, objectives
   https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/117

4. What to do with all of the open budget tickets?

5. What to do with all of the open CoC / community practices tickets?

There is also the third-party software proposal
https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/121 -- do you all want
to make that a meeting topic this week or discuss more in the ticket
for now?

[Robert Mayr]

2017-07-25 21:44 GMT+02:00 Matthew Miller :
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 09:00:04AM +0000, [e-mail] wrote:
> > The Fedora Council will hold our regular Tickets and Ongoing meeting
> > at 9:00am US/Eastern in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. All are
> > welcome!
> >   TZ=US/Eastern date -d '9am tomorrow'
>
> Agenda items:
>
> Trademark Approval Request: fedoraloves.net
> https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/128
>
> Fedora Modules Guidelines and Process
> https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/123
>
> create draft page with mission statement, foundations, objectives
> https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/117
>
> What to do with all of the open budget tickets?
>
> What to do with all of the open CoC / community practices tickets?

Elections are upcoming and we should also fill the other vacant seat in
this occasion.
> There is also the third-party software proposal
> https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/121 -- do you all want
> to make that a meeting topic this week or discuss more in the ticket
> for now?

I think there is not much more to discuss. Seems I am the only one with
real concerns about Freedom,
and there isn't any opening to apply a slight change to the proposal, which
would solve that. It is just sad
I tried to find a good compromise, while this was not the case from the
other side.
> --
> Matthew Miller
>
> Fedora Project Leader
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See you tomorrow ;)

[Matthew Miller]

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 10:00:32PM +0200, Robert Mayr wrote:
> I think there is not much more to discuss. Seems I am the only one
> with real concerns about Freedom, and there isn't any opening to
> apply a slight change to the proposal, which would solve that. It is
> just sad I tried to find a good compromise, while this was not the
> case from the other side.

I think everyone on the council has concerns about Freedom — I
certainly do, and Bex raised some in the ticket as well.

There's also definitely an opening to make a slight change — or even
big changes. However, I don't think for the use case here that asking
users to drop to the terminal and run an install command is really a
slight change. But, I *think* you were proposing that change based on
an understanding that the proposal would allow non-free search results
by default. That's not what's being proposed, though. See the further
clarification in the ticket — even if the repo metadata is installed in
Workstation by default, nothing will search or show it unless the user
explicitly opts in. Isn't that the result you were wanting?