[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Council (Objectives Updates)

Dear all,

You are kindly invited to the meeting:
   Council (Objectives Updates) on 2019-06-05 from 10:00:00 to 11:00:00 US/Eastern
   At fedora-meeting-1(a)irc.freenode.net

The meeting will be about:
The Fedora Council will hold our regular Objectives Updates meeting at 10:00am
US/Eastern in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. All are welcome!

To convert to your local time, run:

  date -d 'TZ="US/Eastern" 10am tomorrow'

Every four weeks, we will have a check in from the leads
current Fedora Objectives. See

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/fedora-project/project/objectives.html

for more.


Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9528/

[Paul Frields]

We had discussed this in a previous meeting but I wanted to surface it
here for transparency. There is a lot of ground to cover in the
Lifecycle objective. We knew this when it was proposed. It turns out
that tracking it biweekly is proving difficult, vs. breaking it down
and tracking by objectives that are more concrete. That is happening
already with CPE's Rawhide Gating initiative, and the Minimization
objective that Adam has proposed (and I support). This has proved more
tangible and also gets the Council closer to the people doing the
work.

Therefore, I'd propose that we retire the loftier, more world-spanning
Lifecycle objective in favor of the components. I plan to continue
driving those components within my role as someone who manages some
people in Red Hat that can solve these problems as part of their job.
:-) So none of this means the concepts or desire have gone away, we
are just breaking down the work into more achievable steps.

Paul

On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 6:00 AM <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> You are kindly invited to the meeting:
>    Council (Objectives Updates) on 2019-06-05 from 10:00:00 to 11:00:00 US/Eastern
>    At fedora-meeting-1(a)irc.freenode.net
>
> The meeting will be about:
> The Fedora Council will hold our regular Objectives Updates meeting at 10:00am
> US/Eastern in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. All are welcome!
>
> To convert to your local time, run:
>
>   date -d 'TZ="US/Eastern" 10am tomorrow'
>
> Every four weeks, we will have a check in from the leads
> current Fedora Objectives. See
>
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/fedora-project/project/objectives.html
>
> for more.
>
>
> Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9528/
>
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[Paul Frields]

Filed https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/council-docs/pull-request/59
today. It turned out Ben had already taken steps but there was a
branch confusion, should be fixed soon. We should get Adam (cc'd) to
add himself to the members page with a bio.

Paul

On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 5:22 PM Paul Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>
> We had discussed this in a previous meeting but I wanted to surface it
> here for transparency. There is a lot of ground to cover in the
> Lifecycle objective. We knew this when it was proposed. It turns out
> that tracking it biweekly is proving difficult, vs. breaking it down
> and tracking by objectives that are more concrete. That is happening
> already with CPE's Rawhide Gating initiative, and the Minimization
> objective that Adam has proposed (and I support). This has proved more
> tangible and also gets the Council closer to the people doing the
> work.
>
> Therefore, I'd propose that we retire the loftier, more world-spanning
> Lifecycle objective in favor of the components. I plan to continue
> driving those components within my role as someone who manages some
> people in Red Hat that can solve these problems as part of their job.
> :-) So none of this means the concepts or desire have gone away, we
> are just breaking down the work into more achievable steps.
>
> Paul
>
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 6:00 AM <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > You are kindly invited to the meeting:
> >    Council (Objectives Updates) on 2019-06-05 from 10:00:00 to 11:00:00
US/Eastern
> >    At fedora-meeting-1(a)irc.freenode.net
> >
> > The meeting will be about:
> > The Fedora Council will hold our regular Objectives Updates meeting at 10:00am
> > US/Eastern in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. All are welcome!
> >
> > To convert to your local time, run:
> >
> >   date -d 'TZ="US/Eastern" 10am tomorrow'
> >
> > Every four weeks, we will have a check in from the leads
> > current Fedora Objectives. See
> >
> > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/fedora-project/project/objectives.html
> >
> > for more.
> >
> >
> > Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9528/
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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