I sent a notice to fab list about initial membership (yay), and now it's time to get to work.
I'm going to stick around awhile (if you don't mind) to help guide the process along. And, I don't recall if I had mentioned it to everyone yet, so let me also mention that Karsten Wade will be lurking too, in his words: "I'm proposing that ... I could fill a special advisory role as 'interpreter and commiter-to TOSW(1)'". (1) http://theopensourceway.org/wiki/Main_Page
In proposing the charter for the group, I splatted a few ideas about some initial tasks, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Community_Working_Group#Tasks_for_the_W... but that's purely advisory, it's ultimately up to this group to decide on how best to proceed.
So, having all that, I'd suggest trying to arrange some (semi-regular?) meetings, say on irc (or whatever). Should we setup something on whenisgood.net or other suggestions?
-- Rex
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 22:12, Rex Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu wrote:
I sent a notice to fab list about initial membership (yay), and now it's time to get to work.
Great! Looking forward to work together with everyone :)
Let me repeat here what I responded to your post on fab list in case some people don't follow that list. I'm currently running for a seat in the board in the upcoming elections and in case I get a seat there I will step down from the CWG again because I strongly believe no person should be in the board and the CWG at the very same time.
I'm going to stick around awhile (if you don't mind) to help guide the process along.
Very good, thanks. I think it important that you help us get started as you have the actual vision of the CWGs work :)
And, I don't recall if I had mentioned it to everyone yet, so let me also mention that Karsten Wade will be lurking too, in his words: "I'm proposing that ... I could fill a special advisory role as 'interpreter and commiter-to TOSW(1)'". (1) http://theopensourceway.org/wiki/Main_Page
The list archive is open anyway, isn't it? :)
In proposing the charter for the group, I splatted a few ideas about some initial tasks, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Community_Working_Group#Tasks_for_the_W... but that's purely advisory, it's ultimately up to this group to decide on how best to proceed.
So, having all that, I'd suggest trying to arrange some (semi-regular?) meetings, say on irc (or whatever). Should we setup something on whenisgood.net or other suggestions?
+1 for IRC meetings and whatever tool works for finding a good time.
-- red
Oh, I forgot to mention that I went ahead and added everyone to the members section: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Community_Working_Group#Members
I hope that's okay with everyone. I think it would be a good idea if everyone added a short introduction next to his name just like the board's members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board#Members
I will do so myself later.
--red
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 15:12:36 -0600 Rex Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu wrote:
I sent a notice to fab list about initial membership (yay), and now it's time to get to work.
Ok.
I'm going to stick around awhile (if you don't mind) to help guide the process along. And, I don't recall if I had mentioned it to everyone yet, so let me also mention that Karsten Wade will be lurking too, in his words: "I'm proposing that ... I could fill a special advisory role as 'interpreter and commiter-to TOSW(1)'". (1) http://theopensourceway.org/wiki/Main_Page
Thats fine. I would hope anyone would feel free to provide input.
In proposing the charter for the group, I splatted a few ideas about some initial tasks, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Community_Working_Group#Tasks_for_the_W... but that's purely advisory, it's ultimately up to this group to decide on how best to proceed.
So, having all that, I'd suggest trying to arrange some (semi-regular?) meetings, say on irc (or whatever). Should we setup something on whenisgood.net or other suggestions?
Yes, irc would be best for me, I available most anytime I'm not already in another Fedora related meeting. ;)
kevin
On 11/19/2010 02:57 PM, Sandro "red" Mathys wrote:
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 22:12, Rex Dieterrdieter@math.unl.edu wrote:
I sent a notice to fab list about initial membership (yay), and now it's time to get to work.
Great! Looking forward to work together with everyone :)
Let me repeat here what I responded to your post on fab list in case some people don't follow that list. I'm currently running for a seat in the board in the upcoming elections and in case I get a seat there I will step down from the CWG again because I strongly believe no person should be in the board and the CWG at the very same time.
I'll take that one step further and say that beyond being an initial charter group of folks, the CWG really should be an elected body and not beholden to the Board. I'd really like to see our first task be to figure out a process for elections, turnover, and make it generally known that we're not here to do things that the board didn't want to be the mean guy and do - because I think that is how a lot of people are perceiving it... basically we need to make sure we are truly being a Community working group, emphasis on the word community.
-robyn
I'm going to stick around awhile (if you don't mind) to help guide the process along.
Very good, thanks. I think it important that you help us get started as you have the actual vision of the CWGs work :)
And, I don't recall if I had mentioned it to everyone yet, so let me also mention that Karsten Wade will be lurking too, in his words: "I'm proposing that ... I could fill a special advisory role as 'interpreter and commiter-to TOSW(1)'". (1) http://theopensourceway.org/wiki/Main_Page
The list archive is open anyway, isn't it? :)
In proposing the charter for the group, I splatted a few ideas about some initial tasks, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Community_Working_Group#Tasks_for_the_W... but that's purely advisory, it's ultimately up to this group to decide on how best to proceed.
So, having all that, I'd suggest trying to arrange some (semi-regular?) meetings, say on irc (or whatever). Should we setup something on whenisgood.net or other suggestions?
+1 for IRC meetings and whatever tool works for finding a good time.
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On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 23:09, Robyn Bergeron rbergero@redhat.com wrote:
On 11/19/2010 02:57 PM, Sandro "red" Mathys wrote:
Let me repeat here what I responded to your post on fab list in case some people don't follow that list. I'm currently running for a seat in the board in the upcoming elections and in case I get a seat there I will step down from the CWG again because I strongly believe no person should be in the board and the CWG at the very same time.
I'll take that one step further and say that beyond being an initial charter group of folks, the CWG really should be an elected body and not beholden to the Board. I'd really like to see our first task be to figure out a process for elections, turnover, and make it generally known that we're not here to do things that the board didn't want to be the mean guy and do - because I think that is how a lot of people are perceiving it... basically we need to make sure we are truly being a Community working group, emphasis on the word community.
I couldn't agree more :) Actually I wouldn't have a problem with being part of both the board and the CWG if both were elected bodies - but as it's now I'd be part of the body that appoints the members of the other body and that simple doesn't make this work for me so I'd step down again.
-- red
On Fri, 2010-11-19 at 15:12 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote:
I'm going to stick around awhile (if you don't mind) to help guide the process along. And, I don't recall if I had mentioned it to everyone yet, so let me also mention that Karsten Wade will be lurking too, in his words:
Sounds good to me.
So, having all that, I'd suggest trying to arrange some (semi-regular?) meetings, say on irc (or whatever). Should we setup something on whenisgood.net or other suggestions?
IRC would be best for me, and I'm available most of the time. It would probably be best to schedule the first meeting sometime after the Thanksgiving holiday (since it looks like most of the group is US-based).
Later, /B
On Fri, 2010-11-19 at 15:09 -0700, Robyn Bergeron wrote:
I'll take that one step further and say that beyond being an initial charter group of folks, the CWG really should be an elected body and not beholden to the Board. I'd really like to see our first task be to figure out a process for elections, turnover, and make it generally known that we're not here to do things that the board didn't want to be the mean guy and do - because I think that is how a lot of people are perceiving it... basically we need to make sure we are truly being a Community working group, emphasis on the word community.
I think it might be a bit pre-mature to make decisions about elections for this group, since:
* My understanding is that this group has a year term, and depending on what results we accomplish, will determine whether is exist afterwards. * I'm not 100% sure that this shouldn't be an appointed group (much like the Packaging Committee was). I'm basing this on my experience helping run the FESCo election for a few years, and also the horrible turnout our elections get in general.
I'd like to see us initially work on getting stuff done™, and then maybe at the 6 months point, look into the whole whether elections are necessary issue.
Later, /B
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