cd/dvd sleeves f16

[Sirko Kemter]

Hello,

I was asked about the status of the artwork for the sleeves for f16. cwickert 
meant they need them a little bit earlier as last time. so does someone work 
on that?

br gnokii

[Alexander Smirnov]

I'm try start this today.

2011/10/6 S.Kemter <buergermeister(a)karl-tux-stadt.de&gt;

>  Hello,
>
>  I was asked about the status of the artwork for the sleeves for f16.
>  cwickert
>  meant they need them a little bit earlier as last time. so does someone
>  work
>  on that?
>
>  br gnokii
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Thanks,
Alexander.

[Christoph Wickert]

Am Donnerstag, den 06.10.2011, 04:51 +0200 schrieb S.Kemter:
>  Hello,
>  
>  I was asked about the status of the artwork for the sleeves for f16. cwickert 
>  meant they need them a little bit earlier as last time. 
Please don't shoot me, I am just the messenger. ;)

The reason why we need the media earlier this time is:
      * We are collecting quotes from different producers and need the
        artwork for that.
      * In the past we repeatedly had problems with the artwork provided
        because it did not match the specifications of the company. The
        biggest problem usually is the printed margin around the actual
        sleeve that is used for folding and gluing. I had to rework most
        of the sleeves and I need more time in case something goes
        wrong.

Please allow me to add two more things.
     1. Because of the problems with the margin, please try to avoid
        round shapes in corners like the object that contained the
        architecture. It was supposed to be a 90° curve but if cut off
        and/or folded I looks a little strange.
     2. I would also like to see a "Not for sale - For promotional use
        only" notice on the sleeves. It might help us with customs in
        countries with high import fees.

Thanks a lot to everybody involved in the media artwork. You are doing
an awesome job with every released and I'm looking forward for your
ideas about F16.

Regards,
Christoph

[Clint Savage]

Christoph,

>      2. I would also like to see a "Not for sale - For
> promotional use
>         only" notice on the sleeves. It might help us with customs in
>         countries with high import fees. 
That is an *excellent* idea. We run into similar situations trying to
ship from the US to Canada and I think that could seriously help
everywhere. Plus, it really is Not for sale, so there is truth in
advertising :)

Cheers,

Clint

[Máirín Duffy]

On Sat, 2011-10-08 at 19:40 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote:
>        * In the past we repeatedly had problems with the artwork
> provided
>          because it did not match the specifications of the company. The
>          biggest problem usually is the printed margin around the actual
>          sleeve that is used for folding and gluing. I had to rework most
>          of the sleeves and I need more time in case something goes
>          wrong. 
Do you have any spec sheets for the printers you're talking to?

~m

[Christoph Wickert]

Am Samstag, den 08.10.2011, 21:39 -0400 schrieb Máirín Duffy:
>  On Sat, 2011-10-08 at 19:40 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote:
>  >       * In the past we repeatedly had problems with the artwork provided
>  >         because it did not match the specifications of the company. The
>  >         biggest problem usually is the printed margin around the actual
>  >         sleeve that is used for folding and gluing. I had to rework most
>  >         of the sleeves and I need more time in case something goes
>  >         wrong.
>  
>  Do you have any spec sheets for the printers you're talking to? 
It depends on the vendor and not on the printers. In the past we used
MediaBit here in Germany and their specs are available at
http://www.mediabit.de/?id=1198

Sleeves:
http://www.mediabit.de/uploads/media/abmessungen_kartonstecktasche_rechts...
Disk labels (never caused problems):
http://www.mediabit.de/uploads/media/labelspezifikationen_produktionen_02...

However this time we probably will use another vendor. Not all have
their specs published, so our approach is to send them the artwork and
ask if it's fine for them or if they require changes.

We will make a decision about the vendor this week and I'll try to
provide their specs ASAP.

Thanks for your help,
Christoph

[Alexander Smirnov]

Hi all!

2011/10/8 Christoph Wickert <christoph.wickert(a)googlemail.com&gt;

>  Am Donnerstag, den 06.10.2011, 04:51 +0200 schrieb S.Kemter:
>  > Hello,
>  >
>  > I was asked about the status of the artwork for the sleeves for f16.
>  cwickert
>  > meant they need them a little bit earlier as last time.
>
>  Please don't shoot me, I am just the messenger. ;)
>
>  The reason why we need the media earlier this time is:
>       * We are collecting quotes from different producers and need the
>         artwork for that.
>       * In the past we repeatedly had problems with the artwork provided
>         because it did not match the specifications of the company. The
>         biggest problem usually is the printed margin around the actual
>         sleeve that is used for folding and gluing. I had to rework most
>         of the sleeves and I need more time in case something goes
>         wrong.
>
>  Please allow me to add two more things.
>      1. Because of the problems with the margin, please try to avoid
>         round shapes in corners like the object that contained the
>         architecture. It was supposed to be a 90° curve but if cut off
>         and/or folded I looks a little strange.
>      2. I would also like to see a "Not for sale - For promotional use
>         only" notice on the sleeves. It might help us with customs in
>         countries with high import fees.
>
>  Thanks a lot to everybody involved in the media artwork. You are doing
>  an awesome job with every released and I'm looking forward for your
>  ideas about F16.
>
>  Regards,
>  Christoph
>
>  _______________________________________________
>  design-team mailing list
>  design-team(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
>  
I placed to my fedorapeople space, variant "Installation DVD" sleeve [1]
(only full png file) for design review.

[1] -
http://inkscaper.fedorapeople.org/Fedora16/Fedora-16-installationmedia-32...

Thanks,
Alexander.

[Christoph Wickert]

Am Montag, den 10.10.2011, 16:08 +0400 schrieb Alexander Smirnov:
>  I placed to my fedorapeople space, variant "Installation DVD" sleeve
>  [1] (only full png file) for design review. 
Thanks Alexander,

awesome job - as always. :)

If there is one thing that could be improved, it's the handles of the
bull's eye. They look very clean. But this is really minor, I really
like what I see.

If you can send us a PDF (one should be enough) by the end of the week,
we have everything we need for the media vendors.

Thanks a lot for your efforts,
Christoph

[Onyeibo Oku]

Links?
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Subject: Re: [Design-team] cd/dvd sleeves f16

Am Montag, den 10.10.2011, 16:08 +0400 schrieb Alexander Smirnov:
>  I placed to my fedorapeople space, variant "Installation DVD" sleeve
>  [1] (only full png file) for design review.
>  
Thanks Alexander,

awesome job - as always. :)

If there is one thing that could be improved, it's the handles of the
bull's eye. They look very clean. But this is really minor, I really
like what I see.

If you can send us a PDF (one should be enough) by the end of the week,
we have everything we need for the media vendors.

Thanks a lot for your efforts,
Christoph


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[Vinzenz Vietzke]

Am 10.10.2011 17:10, schrieb Onyeibo Oku:
>  Links? 
See original mail by Alexander:

> > I placed to my fedorapeople space, variant "Installation
> DVD" sleeve [1]
> > (only full png file) for design review.
> > 
> > [1] -
> > http://inkscaper.fedorapeople.org/Fedora16/Fedora-16-installationmedia-32...
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Alexander. 
Regards,
-- 
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Mail: vietzke(a)b1-systems.de

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[Christoph Wickert]

Am Montag, den 10.10.2011, 14:16 +0200 schrieb Christoph Wickert:

>  If you can send us a PDF (one should be enough) by the end of the
> week,
>  we have everything we need for the media vendors. 
Just to avoid confusion: This just needs to be a draft. Unfortunately
not all vendors publish their requirements on the web, so I'd like to
have something to show them and ask them if it's ok. They will then tell
me what needs to be changed, so please don't invest too much time here.
If you could provide a PDF of the file you published yesterday, this is
totally ok.

Regards,
Christoph

[Sirko Kemter]

Am Dienstag, 11. Oktober 2011, 13:12:05 schrieb Christoph Wickert:
>  Am Montag, den 10.10.2011, 14:16 +0200 schrieb Christoph Wickert:
>  > If you can send us a PDF (one should be enough) by the end of the week,
>  > we have everything we need for the media vendors.
>  
>  Just to avoid confusion: This just needs to be a draft. Unfortunately
>  not all vendors publish their requirements on the web, so I'd like to
>  have something to show them and ask them if it's ok. They will then tell
>  me what needs to be changed, so please don't invest too much time here.
>  If you could provide a PDF of the file you published yesterday, this is
>  totally ok. 
ooh Christoph I despair now with u! I tried to explain to u, that the 
vendor/printer cant see if it is right. They only can tell u the cutting 
border is right or not. They cant tell u the colors are right.

Maybe that picture shows to u what can happen this way. Left one right, right 
one wrong but it looked also ok for the printers! And would say LinuxMagazin 
are proffessionals or ;)

http://img.susepaste.org/ab9f8679

u need no draft to get from them the informations Alexander needs to create 
the printing ready final version

u simple have to ask them for cutting/printing border and marks. format and 
the color profile they like to have. That should be for a german vendor a ECI 
or Fogra profile ;)
When u dont like to ask them, give me the number I will call them and ask.

br gnokii
>  
>  Regards,
>  Christoph
>  
>  
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[Alexander Smirnov]

Hi Christoph!

2011/10/11 Christoph Wickert <christoph.wickert(a)googlemail.com&gt;

>  Am Montag, den 10.10.2011, 14:16 +0200 schrieb Christoph Wickert:
>
>  > If you can send us a PDF (one should be enough) by the end of the week,
>  > we have everything we need for the media vendors.
>
>  Just to avoid confusion: This just needs to be a draft. Unfortunately
>  not all vendors publish their requirements on the web, so I'd like to
>  have something to show them and ask them if it's ok. They will then tell
>  me what needs to be changed, so please don't invest too much time here.
>  If you could provide a PDF of the file you published yesterday, this is
>  totally ok.
>
>  Regards,
>  Christoph
>
>
>  _______________________________________________
>  design-team mailing list
>  design-team(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
>  
I minimal change, yesterday's design and upload pdf [1] and png [2] files
(for testing).

[1] -
http://inkscaper.fedorapeople.org/Fedora16/Fedora-16-installationmedia-32...
[2] -
http://inkscaper.fedorapeople.org/Fedora16/Fedora-16-installationmedia-32...

Thanks,
Alexander.

[Máirín Duffy]

Hi Alexander!

This is amazing work; a very awesome design!

This morning in IRC we gathered some feedback for you to improve on it:

- The memory requirement for Fedora 16 will be 768 MB of RAM.

- There is a typo that mentions Fedora 15 instead of Fedora 16.

- The screws in the window could be rotated a bit, and the bullseye
modified a bit to have more detail / more realism.

I hope this feedback helps; thanks for the great work!

~m

On Tue, 2011-10-11 at 17:45 +0400, Alexander Smirnov wrote:
>  I minimal change, yesterday's design and upload pdf [1] and png
> [2]
>  files (for testing).
>  
>  [1] -
>  http://inkscaper.fedorapeople.org/Fedora16/Fedora-16-installationmedia-32...
>  [2] -
>  http://inkscaper.fedorapeople.org/Fedora16/Fedora-16-installationmedia-32...

[Alexander Smirnov]

Hi Mo!

This is amazing work; a very awesome design!
>  
Thanks:)


> - The memory requirement for Fedora 16 will be 768 MB of RAM.
>  
Fix.


> - There is a typo that mentions Fedora 15 instead of Fedora 16.
>  
Fix.


> - The screws in the window could be rotated a bit, and the bullseye
> modified a bit to have more detail / more realism.
>  
Add 3d bevel.

I hope this feedback helps; thanks for the great work!
>  
Thanks for help,
Alexander.