[Design Team] #380: Custom logo for the Fedora Bootstrap project homepage

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#380: Custom logo for the Fedora Bootstrap project homepage
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Reporter:  jcapik                      |       Owner:
    Type:  Design and Tools Education  |      Status:  new
Priority:  medium                      |    Severity:  Quick & Easy
Keywords:                              |  Blocked By:
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 * Deadline

 Not any, but sonner = better

 * Size requirements in pixels (if applicable)

 Resizable vector format (SVG) would be nice
 and the aspect ratio is up to you. Look at
 the URL below and decide. If there are any
 size constraints for embedded letters, then
 we're not against your recommendations and
 can modify the layout.

 * If this is a logo or icon for an application, what application is this
 for?

 Logo for project homepage currently located here:
 https://jcapik.fedorapeople.org/fedora-bootstrap/

 The webpage currently contains an unauthorized logo
 that we want to replace with authorized logo made
 by the design team.

 The current logo theme is "Fedora self-replication"
 and we'd like to keep the theme (but it doesn't
 necessarily need to be painting ... it could be
 cell cloning or anything funny while still well understandable)

 Background transparency is welcome (we might decide
 to invert the webpage colors in the future)

 * Packager or developer contact information (IRC nick + email)

 IRC: jcapik

 email: jcapik (at) redhat.com

 * If this is for an icon, please indicate if you need desktop icons or web
 application icons

 Web page

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#380: Custom logo for the Fedora Bootstrap project homepage
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  Reporter:  jcapik           |     Owner:
      Type:  Digital Artwork  |    Status:  new
  Priority:  medium           |  Severity:  Quick & Easy
Resolution:                   |  Keywords:
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Changes (by jcapik):

 * type:  Design and Tools Education => Digital Artwork


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#380: Custom logo for the Fedora Bootstrap project homepage
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  Reporter:  jcapik           |     Owner:  mciahdenn
      Type:  Digital Artwork  |    Status:  new
  Priority:  medium           |  Severity:  Quick & Easy
Resolution:                   |  Keywords:  triaged
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Changes (by mciahdenn):

 * keywords:   => triaged
 * owner:   => mciahdenn


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#380: Custom logo for the Fedora Bootstrap project homepage
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  Reporter:  jcapik           |     Owner:  mciahdenn
      Type:  Digital Artwork  |    Status:  new
  Priority:  medium           |  Severity:  Quick & Easy
Resolution:                   |  Keywords:  triaged
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Comment (by mciahdenn):

 Ideas of the painting and the cells seemed a bit abstract and difficult to
 understand for me so I tried to stick to the self replication but much
 more simplified.

 What do you think? Is this to far from what you wanted?

 On a side note, I would ''highly'' suggest that you please never use a
 crazy tiling texture for the background of your site :)

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#380: Custom logo for the Fedora Bootstrap project homepage
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  Reporter:  jcapik           |     Owner:  mciahdenn
      Type:  Digital Artwork  |    Status:  new
  Priority:  medium           |  Severity:  Quick & Easy
Resolution:                   |  Keywords:  triaged
Blocked By:                   |  Blocking:
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Comment (by jcapik):

 Replying to [comment:3 mciahdenn]:

 Hello Micah.

 Thanks for quick response!


>  Ideas of the painting and the cells seemed a bit abstract and
> difficult 
 to understand for me so I tried to stick to the self replication but
much
 more simplified.
>  What do you think? Is this to far from what you wanted? 
 I apologize for being unclear. With self-replication I didn't mean doing
 many identical copies of the original. The important thing here is that
 we're able to produce even one piece of the whole distribution and doing
 it completely from scratch using Fedora as builder. It doesn't even have
 to be the same version and the result can differ from the parent. That's
 why I mentioned painting or cell cloning. I wanted to avoid a feeling of
 factory produced clones. After reading the logo guidelines I understand
 we're limited by constraints (empty space near the logo and colors) and
 maybe we could drop the fedora symbol completely and replace it with
 something generic that represents Linux/distribution/Fedora and something
 that wouldn't limit us in doing adjustments because of trademarks. I was
 also thinking that we could be less conservative and give it more funny
 elements. And we don't need to be scared of abstraction that much. I
 probably emphasized the 'simplicity' too much. I was looking at your
 artwork in ticket 362 (https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/362)
 and must say I love the very first logo and also the character version at
 the bottom.

 Anyway, I tested the logo on the homepage and it got a professional look.


>  On a side note, I would ''highly'' suggest that you
> please never use a 
 crazy tiling texture for the background of your site :)

 I'm happy you mentioned that. It also needs to be replaced as the shiny
 effect is against guidelines and making it lighter so that it doesn't
 distract readers is also not allowed. Maybe you could help us to find a
 different solution for the background.

 I hope I didn't discourage you and that we'll find the right solution
 together. Do you have any instant messenger or IRC? Would be better to
 discuss that online.

 Thanks a lot,
 Jaromir.

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#380: Custom logo for the Fedora Bootstrap project homepage
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  Reporter:  jcapik           |     Owner:  mciahdenn
      Type:  Digital Artwork  |    Status:  new
  Priority:  medium           |  Severity:  Quick & Easy
Resolution:                   |  Keywords:  triaged
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Comment (by gnokii):

 I think if Jaromir calls it Fedora From Scratch a mix of Fedora logo with
 that of LFS would be the thing, so everybody who knows LFS would know what
 it is. Even it breaks our guidlines at this point it would be acceptable.

 http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/images/lfs-logo.png

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#380: Custom logo for the Fedora Bootstrap project homepage
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  Reporter:  jcapik           |     Owner:  mciahdenn
      Type:  Digital Artwork  |    Status:  new
  Priority:  medium           |  Severity:  Quick & Easy
Resolution:                   |  Keywords:  triaged
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Comment (by mciahdenn):

 Sorry been AFK all week.

 I love your idea of using LFS logo gnokii, I will work on it this weekend.

 Jaromir my Nick is "M1C4HTRON13" on Freenode if you still need to ping me.

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#380: Custom logo for the Fedora Bootstrap project homepage
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  Reporter:  jcapik           |     Owner:  mciahdenn
      Type:  Digital Artwork  |    Status:  new
  Priority:  medium           |  Severity:  Quick & Easy
Resolution:                   |  Keywords:  triaged
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Comment (by jcapik):

 Replying to [comment:6 mciahdenn]:
>  Sorry been AFK all week.
>
>  I love your idea of using LFS logo gnokii, I will work on it this 
 weekend.
>  Jaromir my Nick is "M1C4HTRON13" on Freenode if you still need to ping 
me.

 Hi Micah.

 I have no luck. Still see you offline. Anyway, The puzzle design mentioned
 by gnokii might be interesting depending on the final form. The puzzle
 needs a completely new face as the original LFS logo looks pretty
 outdated. So, if you also like the idea, I'm curious what you can
 "squeeze" out of that :]

 Thanks,
 Jaromir.

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#380: Custom logo for the Fedora Bootstrap project homepage
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  Reporter:  jcapik           |     Owner:  mciahdenn
      Type:  Digital Artwork  |    Status:  new
  Priority:  medium           |  Severity:  Quick & Easy
Resolution:                   |  Keywords:  triaged
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Comment (by mciahdenn):

 ^ Strugeling to make this work, any more ideas gnokii?

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#380: Custom logo for the Fedora Bootstrap project homepage
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  Reporter:  jcapik           |     Owner:  mciahdenn
      Type:  Digital Artwork  |    Status:  new
  Priority:  medium           |  Severity:  Quick & Easy
Resolution:                   |  Keywords:  triaged
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Comment (by jcapik):

 Replying to [comment:8 mciahdenn]:
>  Struggeling to make this work, any more ideas gnokii? 
 Hi Micah.

 We'd like to keep the name "Fedora Bootstrap". The project got that name 4
 years ago and we don't plan to change that.
 I had a discussion with Ian Weller about the guidelines and he explained
 it isn't allowed to do ANY kind of modifications to the trademarked fedora
 logo. Even removing the TM symbol is not allowed.
 The guidelines say the logo requires a clean area around ... "minimum 1/2
 of the X-height around". It isn't allowed to modify inner or outer shapes,
 aspect ratio and colors. It isn't allowed to skew or distort the logo in
 any way. That's why I wanted to drop it completely and replace with
 something that allows all the above operations.

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#380: Custom logo for the Fedora Bootstrap project homepage
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  Reporter:  jcapik           |     Owner:  mciahdenn
      Type:  Digital Artwork  |    Status:  new
  Priority:  medium           |  Severity:  Quick & Easy
Resolution:                   |  Keywords:  triaged
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Comment (by jcapik):

 Another idea might be a picture of a blue boot with bootstrap and the
 fedora logo could be placed in the 4th free corner of the boot's 'L'
 shape.

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#380: Custom logo for the Fedora Bootstrap project homepage
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  Reporter:  jcapik           |     Owner:  mciahdenn
      Type:  Digital Artwork  |    Status:  new
  Priority:  medium           |  Severity:  Quick & Easy
Resolution:                   |  Keywords:  triaged
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Comment (by mciahdenn):

 With and without eyes. Yes I drew a boot with eyes. Career highlight? ;)

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#380: Custom logo for the Fedora Bootstrap project homepage
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  Reporter:  jcapik           |     Owner:  mciahdenn
      Type:  Digital Artwork  |    Status:  new
  Priority:  medium           |  Severity:  Quick & Easy
Resolution:                   |  Keywords:  triaged
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Comment (by jcapik):

 Thanks a lot! I like the final design and closing this ticket. Will re-
 open if I need more artwork for sub-pages in the future.

 Jaromir.

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#380: Custom logo for the Fedora Bootstrap project homepage
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  Reporter:  jcapik           |     Owner:  mciahdenn
      Type:  Digital Artwork  |    Status:  closed
  Priority:  medium           |  Severity:  Quick & Easy
Resolution:  fixed            |  Keywords:  triaged
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Changes (by jcapik):

 * resolution:   => fixed
 * status:  new => closed


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