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 Hello Fedora Design,

 The time has come to make a new shirt for Flock 2014. This year, Flock is
 in Prague, Czech Republic. The shirt design for 2013 was very popular,
 people seemed to like the clean nature of it, as well as the fact that it
 incorporated aspects of the local area (the local bird).

 We need a design for this year's Flock shirt. It needs to be a single
 color design to keep costs down. There is a general desire to avoid a
 black shirt, but the ultimate design belongs to the Design Team. Ideally,
 it will have a similar look and feel to the 2013 design without feeling
 like a copy. There is no "theme" for Flock, but it would be nice if it
 incorporated the local scene somehow and still felt like Fedora.

 Shirt does not need to be gray like last year, but can be.

 We need this as soon as possible. Feel free to make multiple proposals and
 let the Flock staff choose (or just send one). :)

 Thanks in advance.

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Comment (by jreznik):

 For inspiration - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prague

 Something more modern than usual history, Dancing House could be a nice
 theme. Also metro station has unique design.
 http://media0.iplace.cz/images/media0:4bd1deeb12449.jpg/NAM.jpg Prague is
 known for many legends -
 http://www.myczechrepublic.com/prague/history/prague_legends.html with
 Golem as the main theme http://img.ahaonline.cz/img/18/new_article/1286532
 -img-cisaruv-pekar-v1.jpg?v=1

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Comment (by duffy):

 Here's a couple of Golem ideas (although after some thought maybe we
 should use this Flock logotype somehow: https://fedorahosted.org/design-
 team/ticket/270#comment:11)

 [[Image(laptop-sit.png)]]

 [[Image(laptop-hold.png)]]

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Comment (by duffy):

 Here's one that's a riff off of a Godzilla poster:


 [[Image(godzilla-golem.png)]]

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Comment (by jreznik):

 Replying to [comment:4 duffy]:
>  Here's one that's a riff off of a Godzilla poster:
>  
 I really like it! But it seems like we may have troubles using Golem...
 Dan Horak just told me, that were some disputes regarding using Golem as a
 monster and daughter of the original author of movie's Golem sued many
 companies and won. I thought, it's the common look of Golem from legends
 (even one company who loosed the case defended this way) but judge ruled
 this way.

 http://bit.ly/1kQkh6X (full article, translated to English using Google
 Translate)

 I'm not sure changing the look to something far away from movie would help
 as the court ruled based on monster look, not similarity to the statue.
 Maybe we should take a look for a new idea :(.

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Comment (by eischmann):

 Speaking of Golem, the legend is connected to the emperor Rudolf II. and
 his court painter was Giuseppe Arcimboldo. His paintings are very unique
 because he was using objects such as fruits and vegetables to compose
 them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuseppe_Arcimboldo

 That might be an unorthodox idea for a t-shirt.

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Comment (by eischmann):

 Or maybe some combination of Fedora logo and Prague Astronomical Clock
 (one of the most famous sightseeing objects in Prague):
 http://www.prague.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Astronomical-
 Clock.jpg

 Fedora logo as the inner circle and some connection to releases of Fedora.

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Comment (by duffy):

 Are there any Magical Prague stories that we might be able to use?

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Comment (by duffy):

 Okay, here's a redesign of the Prague Astronomical Clock. :) The inner
 circle is the shape of the Fedora bubble here, with the Fedora logo in the
 center and the Flock conference name around the edging. The outer circle's
 edging could have the dates of the conference (and maybe should say
 Prague, Czech Republic around the lower right outer rim.)

 A couple thoughts::

 - I don't know what position would be appropriate for the time the
 conference is being held. Does anybody know what the clock face looks like
 right now? (Should be closer to what it would look like in August than a
 random guess.) But the other issue is because of the shape of the Fedora
 logo, the inner circle really could only work on the right side of the
 outer circle.

 - We could make this more complex by adding statue designs around it like
 the real clock. It has apostles and skeletons and animals. Maybe we do
 pandas and anacondas and beefy miracles??? (Any other Fedora characters?
 :) ) Or maybe this makes it too complex.

 - This is a really heavy modification. I"m hoping with some of the
 detailing - like the metal rims around each of the circles and the arcs in
 the center of the larger circle - that it'll still read as a variation of
 the astronomical clock?? I know it's hard to tell in a rough sketch like
 this too.

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Comment (by duffy):

 Ohhh! Jiří, I love the idea of connecting it with releases of Fedora. I
 could put the date and location stuff along the outside (or along the
 inside of the outer rim) And put the Fedora release numbers up to 21
 inside the outer rim??

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Comment (by duffy):

 Re: the Giuseppe Arcimboldo idea.... he didn't just use fruit. Here is one
 with chickens and birds:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Arcimboldo_Air_%28copy%29.jpg

 What if we made a Fedora logo out of.... hot dogs....?

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Comment (by sarupbanskota):

 Replying to [comment:3 duffy]:
>  Here's a couple of Golem ideas (although after some thought maybe
> we 
 should use this Flock logotype somehow: https://fedorahosted.org/design-
 team/ticket/270#comment:11)
>  [[Image(laptop-sit.png)]] 
 Even though we probably can't use this, I'd still like to provide
 feedback, since you've put so much work into it!

 I love this one - IMO the best of the lot for the tshirt. Were you trying
 to make the golem sit on a boat?

>  [[Image(laptop-hold.png)]] 
 This one could use improvement. The umm..(belt?) on it's body could be
 made to an "f" ;)

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Comment (by sarupbanskota):

 Replying to [comment:9 duffy]:
>  Okay, here's a redesign of the Prague Astronomical Clock. :) The
> inner 
 circle is the shape of the Fedora bubble here, with the Fedora logo in the
 center and the Flock conference name around the edging. The outer circle's
 edging could have the dates of the conference (and maybe should say
 Prague, Czech Republic around the lower right outer rim.)
>  [[Image(astronomical-fedora.png)]]
>
>  A couple thoughts::
>
>  - I don't know what position would be appropriate for the time the 
 conference
is being held. Does anybody know what the clock face looks like
 right now? (Should be closer to what it would look like in August than a
 random guess.) But the other issue is because of the shape of the Fedora
 logo, the inner circle really could only work on the right side of the
 outer circle.
>  - We could make this more complex by adding statue designs around it 
 like the real
clock. It has apostles and skeletons and animals. Maybe we
 do pandas and anacondas and beefy miracles??? (Any other Fedora
 characters? :) ) Or maybe this makes it too complex.
>  - This is a really heavy modification. I"m hoping with some of the 
 detailing
- like the metal rims around each of the circles and the arcs in
 the center of the larger circle - that it'll still read as a variation of
 the astronomical clock?? I know it's hard to tell in a rough sketch like
 this too.

 The last point is a bit of my concern as well.

 But the idea is pretty - I was thinking, the Fedora bubble could be used
 as a pointer to where the clock is pointing, although we might have to
 remove the F inside in that case.

 I was imagining a modern version of the clock - maybe the space between
 the August 6-9 and the bubble itself (currently filled with some kinda
 strokes) could be filled with the patterns from the Fedora.next logo idea
 pattern?

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Comment (by sarupbanskota):

 Replying to [comment:4 duffy]:
>  Here's one that's a riff off of a Godzilla poster:
>  
 I really like this one too - but for the tshirt, probably the restriction
 on the number of colors might be a problem :/

 I'll work on the logos tonight and try to.. de-clutter a lil bit ;)

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Comment (by eischmann):

 You can find a description of how the astronomical clock works on
 Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prague_astronomical_clock

 If you look at a picture of the entire clock you can spot two windows
 above the rim. They open every hour and present the twelve Apostles as
 moving figures. I was thinking that we could use it for the figures of the
 last two release code names. That would also set Flock Prague in time,
 taking place after the F19 and F20 releases. On the other hand, I have no
 idea how to depict Heisenbug.

 Composing a Fedora logo using buildings and objects from Prague could also
 look interesting. I don't know how it would work with sausages, though.

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Comment (by sarupbanskota):

 The image would be too large to fit in here, so I've just attached a
 concept.

 So.. this one depicts http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannes_Kepler,
 looking through a telescope (I'm not sure if he used telescopes though).
 Out in the sky there's a depiction of the famous Kepler's second law of
 planetary motion. The sun is obviously the Fedora logo. The path of the
 planet itself (kinda like an oval) is used to generate the idea of the
 astronomical clock - this one uses Roman letterings, but from what I found
 out, the clock has special zodiac signs around it. The area inside the
 path  could have a faint fill of the map of the world.. you know, to
 depict Fedorans from world over attend Flock.

 To spice things up, Kepler can be made to wear Fedora branded accessories!

 I was also thinking, one more idea is to ignore the Kepler and telescope,
 the oval + roman letterings is kinda simple but still nice for a tshirt
 front :)

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Comment (by pfrields):

 I really like the idea of using the Prague astronomical clock.  The idea
 of adding Kepler is not bad, but I think it makes the shirt design fairly
 "busy" and not overall in keeping with our overall design aesthetic.  What
 do others think?

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Comment (by duffy):

 If we had to do figurines for each release:

 1 Yarrow - A yarrow flower
 2 Tettnang - Tettnang coat of arms figure (a black dog?)
 3 Heidelberg - Heidelberg coat of arms figure (gold lion)
 4 Stentz - D*
 5 Bordeaux - bottle of wine
 6 Zod - DNA strand
 7 Moonshine - jug of moonshine
 8 Werewolf - werewolf
 9 Sulphur - pieces of sulphur
 10 Cambridge - planet / moon
 11 Leonidas - lion
 12 Constantine - blue bubbles
 13 Goddard - rocket ship
 14 Laughlin - spikes
 15 Lovelock - bird
 16 Verne - submarine
 17 Beefy Miracle - beefy
 18 Spherical Cow - spherical cow
 19 Schrödinger's Cat - cat
 20 Heisenbug - something resembling this http://luckydusa.com/wp-
 content/uploads/2013/08/Heisenberg-blog-01-01.jpg

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Comment (by jreznik):

 Replying to [comment:18 pfrields]:
>  I really like the idea of using the Prague astronomical clock.  The
> idea 
 of adding Kepler is not bad, but I think it makes the shirt design fairly
 "busy" and not in keeping with our overall design aesthetic.  What do
 others think?

 Yeah, I agree. I'd like to see the design with figurines, how much it is
 going to clutter it.

 Btw. we should have final design/t-shirt color by the end of the month
 (30. 6.), earlier would be better. It can take up to one month to order
 the desired t-shirts and print it for the vendor. Also many Flock planning
 team members are out later.

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Comment (by jreznik):

 Replying to [comment:19 duffy]:
>  If we had to do figurines for each release: 
 Is it even possible to do it on constraint space for all releases?

>  20 Heisenbug - something resembling this http://luckydusa.com/wp-
 content/uploads/2013/08/Heisenberg-blog-01-01.jpg

 Or just bug? :)

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Comment (by duffy):

 work-in-progress... this is is getting pretty busy but... it's rough!

 [[Image(wip-18jun.png)]]

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Comment (by eischmann):

 I think the figures of code names are too prominent compared to the clock
 rim. They should be smaller IMHO. The beefy miracle in the middle is also
 a bit confusing. Colleagues around me told me that from a distance it
 looks like the Imperial Eagle from the German coat of arms or a daemon
 with wings sitting on a ledge :)

 None of them got it should resemble the Prague astronomical lock. Maybe we
 should add the characteristic "roof" above the windows with figures (maybe
 made of a pair of sausages? :) ). If we find out that the idea with window
 figures just doesn't work for us I think we can stick with the clock rim
 only. It looks very well by itself.

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Comment (by duffy):

 Oh man! Evil Beefy!!!

 I have all the same concerns about the progress so far. What I'll do is
 ignore the figures/beefy angel / etc for now and focus just on the clock
 face below, and as time allows I'll try adding the roof and scaling down
 the figures / etc. I agree that the clockface design itself could work
 really well alone so it's a good fall back plan!

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Comment (by duffy):

 [[Image(wip-19jun.png​)]]

 just another wip update... attaching SVG too in case any one wants a play

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Comment (by sarupbanskota):

 [[Image(clockincastle.png)]]

 Another random experiment with clock + castle. I just realized after
 uploading that the entire thing looks like a tshirt by itself (lol). Just
 letting everyone know that isn't the intention - the stuff in the
 background of the clock is intended to be a castle/tower.

 Throwing a suggestion as well - how about lining the bottom of the tshirt
 with such minimal looking castles/briges etc so it acts as a panorama of
 the city?

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Comment (by duffy):

 [[Image(wip-24jun.png)]]

 maybe getting closer with this one?

 thinking of maybe having the outline of the clock tower or maybe just a
 cityscape somewhere to cap it off?

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Comment (by jreznik):

 Awesome, I'd say we're close to the final design! I like the simple but
 very nice design, so adding more complexity with outline of the clock
 tower would be too much. Not saying no, maybe it would be even more
 amazing then :). For the flock label, I'd combine it with last years
 design somehow (not sure it's even possible) to make it work as series
 same as it was for FUDCon.

 Is it intentional numbers are displaced?

 With this design, I think we're back to light grey t-shirt, I'd say.

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Comment (by pfrields):

 I agree, looks great.  One thing I would suggest is that there's no reason
 the place name has to be in English equivalent.  Why not use the local
 language, such as "Praha, Česká Republika"?  (Jaroslav can correct this if
 it's wrong, I just used Google.)

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Comment (by jreznik):

 Replying to [comment:29 pfrields]:
>  I agree, looks great.  One thing I would suggest is that there's
> no 
 reason the place name has to be in English equivalent.  Why not use the
 local language, such as "Praha, Česká Republika"?  (Jaroslav can correct
 this if it's wrong, I just used Google.)

 It would be "Praha, Česká republika" - a lot of strict rules about
 uppercase in Czech, I don't have a clue about ;-) - but with everything
 uppercase it's just "PRAHA, ČESKÁ REPUBLIKA". "AUGUST" is
"SRPEN". It's a
 nice idea, especially thank you to the host country, although I'm not 100%
 convinced we should do it.

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Comment (by duffy):

 whoops i screwed up the numbers - my mouse accidentally dragged them - i
 can re-center them, hehe

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Comment (by duffy):

 [[Image(flock-shirt-2014.png)]]

 What do you think about this one? I made it a bit more like last year's
 flock one with the banner and the 'flock' logo centered on top.

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Comment (by duffy):

 Here's the mockup of the latest design on a shirt:

 [[Image(flock-2014_mockup.png)]]

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Comment (by spot):

 I like the design, but as originally stated, it needs to be a single color
 so we can afford to make them.

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Comment (by jreznik):

 Replying to [comment:34 spot]:
>  I like the design, but as originally stated, it needs to be a single
 color so we can afford to make them.

 We are able to produce multi-color t-shirts for a very nice price, from
 the vendor we know. If we will go with B&C EXACT 150, it means 2.37 euros
 for color one. With heather grey (or similar), we will need three colors
 and it's 0.80 euro (+27 euro pre-processing). Otherwise it would be a bit
 more expensive with 4 colors. White would be super cheap - 1.97 euro +
 0.80 euro = 2.77 euro (+27 euro) - for 200 pcs, less than 3 euros (one
 side). What's the budget allocated for t-shirts?

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Comment (by spot):

 At those prices, we're fine. I retract that restriction. :)

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Comment (by jreznik):

 Replying to [comment:32 duffy]:
>  What do you think about this one? I made it a bit more like last
> year's 
 flock one with the banner and the 'flock' logo centered on top.

 There's typo s/SPRNA/SRPNA and I *really* like it. Jiri will check options
 we have with vendor.

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Comment (by duffy):

 Okay, here's the fixed design. Let me know if you see any other mistakes:

 [[Image(preview-final.png)]]

 I just attached a bunch of stuff. Here's a rundown:

 * [[Image(flock-2014-tshirt.pdf)]] - hand this off to the printer
 * [[Image(flock-2014-tshirt.sla.gz)]] - Scribus source for the print-ready
 PDF - has CMYK color conversions
 * '''clock.final.paths.svg''' - Inkscape SVG source for design -
has all
 text converted to paths
 * '''clock.final.svg''' - Inkscape SVG source for design -
requires
 Comfortaa font be used. Use this version if you need to correct typos /
 change text / etc

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Comment (by eischmann):

 I've got quotes from the vendor:

 4-color print, A4 size: €.74/unit price[[BR]]
 3-color print, A4 size: €.62/unit price[[BR]]

 The small logo on the back is, however, €.44 to print.

 They say that ash and sports grey are also motley like heather grey, not
 monolitic colors. Ash is just lighter and sports grey darker.

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Comment (by eischmann):

 The t-shirt proposed by the vendor is

http://www.reklamnytextil.sk/index.cfm?module=Catalog&page=Product&am...

 They asked if we want t-shirts with weight of 150g or 190g (more quality
 ones). I asked them to give the price difference, waiting.

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Comment (by jreznik):

 Replying to [comment:39 eischmann]:
>  I've got quotes from the vendor:
>
>  4-color print, A4 size: €.74/unit price[[BR]]
>  3-color print, A4 size: €.62/unit price[[BR]]
>
>  The small logo on the back is, however, €.44 to print.
>
>  They say that ash and sports grey are also motley like heather grey, not 
 monolitic
colors. Ash is just lighter and sports grey darker.

 4 color print, even on the flecked t-shirt will look better and as price
 difference is 0.12 euros, it's worth doing it. We don't need the back
 Fedora logo, it wasn't there last year neither due to budget constraints
 and we have Fedora logo on the front side.

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 * resolution:   => fixed


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