[Design Team] #179: Help with cheatsheet design/template

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#179: Help with cheatsheet design/template
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Reporter:  james         |       Owner:  nobody       
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 I wanted to do something like the following, but for yum:

         http://en.opensuse.org/File:Zypper-cheat-sheet-1.pdf
         http://en.opensuse.org/File:Zypper-cheat-sheet-2.pdf

 ...and was told you'd be the people to ask about creating something I can
 put the data into?

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#179: Help with cheatsheet design/template
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Reporter:  james         |        Owner:  nobody       
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Comment (by schendje):

 This sounds like a really fun task. Could you tell us a little bit more
 about it?

 I assume the data won't change very often, so do you think it's possible
 to give us the data (and maybe an idea for the layout/groups) first and
 then let us organize it on the page?

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#179: Help with cheatsheet design/template
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Reporter:  james         |        Owner:  nobody       
    Type:  task          |       Status:  new          
Priority:  major         |    Component:  Other Artwork
Severity:  Quick & Easy  |   Resolution:               
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Comment (by james):

 A random text brain dump I'd done is at:

 http://james.fedorapeople.org/yum/cheatsheet.txt

 ...which is mostly notes for me, so I appologise in advance if it's
 unreadable for people not me :).

 My guess at something to start with was to have 2 cheatsheet pages, the
 first being "basic" stuff for new users (although may contain some tidbits
 that people already using it don't know atm).
 The second maybe something with the plugins/etc. ... that much less people
 are going to know.

 I'd figured something a4/letter size should be good, but I'm not sure how
 big the text is better being ... or how much space should be taken by
 "blocking" the text. So I'm really not sure how much text should go on
 each page (looking for input from someone with style :).

 I'd also had some ideas about being able to do "compression" (Eg.
 install/remove/upgrade/downgrade all take very similar arguments -- see
 above) ... but there's obviously some tradeoff there between compression
 and "unintelligible" (again, any advice is appreciated :).


 So, in short, it all depends on how much work you want to do ... anything
 from just "use this .blah file, and create these boxes like so and put
 text into them", to taking my insane technical mumble and creating a work
 of beauty ... all would be much appreciated.

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#179: Help with cheatsheet design/template
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Reporter:  james         |        Owner:  schendje     
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Priority:  major         |    Component:  Other Artwork
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Changes (by schendje):

  * owner:  nobody => schendje
  * status:  new => assigned

Comment:

 That sounds great, I'll assign this ticket to me.

 So, what I think is a good plan...

 - you give me a few samples of sections with a bunch of commands (complete
 with all the information for those, including comments)
 - I take a look at these and put together a first draft
 - once I have something satisfying, you can work on the rest of the
 sections and commands (which will be easier, because then we can see how
 much space it'll take, etc)
 - you send the "final" content to me and I integrate that into the design

 So for the first one, the samples... I think what you said about
 compression is very interesting and we can definitely make that work with
 proper alignment and coloring. :)

 It'd be great if you could include some of those "compressable" commands
 in the samples, so I can try to create something cool.

 What do you think?

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Reporter:  james         |        Owner:  schendje     
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Comment (by james):

 Sounds, great ... so you want me to just email you part of the text above
 with some comments?

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Reporter:  james         |        Owner:  schendje     
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Comment (by schendje):

 Sure, sounds good. I'm also 'schendje' on IRC if you want to reach me
 there.

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Reporter:  james         |        Owner:  schendje     
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Comment (by schendje):

 I've been away for over a week, but here's a first shot at this:

 http://schendje.fedorapeople.org/yumcheatsheet/try1.png

 It's still a big WIP. I'll keep working on it to find the right layout.

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#179: Help with cheatsheet design/template
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Reporter:  james              |        Owner:  schendje     
    Type:  task               |       Status:  assigned     
Priority:  major              |    Component:  Other Artwork
Severity:  Quick & Easy       |   Resolution:               
Keywords:  needinfo-reporter  |  
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Changes (by nightmoves):

  * keywords:  => needinfo-reporter

Comment:

 Name: James Antill, email: james.antill(a)redhat.com has been contacted for
 feedback on the WIP.

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#179: Help with cheatsheet design/template
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Reporter:  james              |        Owner:  schendje     
    Type:  task               |       Status:  assigned     
Priority:  major              |    Component:  Other Artwork
Severity:  Quick & Easy       |   Resolution:               
Keywords:  needinfo-reporter  |  
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Comment (by james):

 So, sorry ... I didn't know I needed to comment at the time (and didn't
 want to say bad things about a WIP), and then I forgot about it ... crazy
 few months!

 So ... some comments, I understand it's a WIP ...


 1. Looks quite pretty ... but change of BG from dark blue to white, with
 the same text colour, makes it a bit hard to read.

 2. Repeating all the "yum install" bits seems like it's wasting a lot of
 space.

 3. "yum install @books" should not have the '=' char. there.

 4. "yum remove" is probably a copy/paste error?

 5. upgrade/downgrade/reinstall/distro-sync ... can we line up the
 commands? Again, maybe drop yum and <package> for each one somehow ...
 actually can we line up all the "command <arg>" columns?

 6. Can we split "yum list" out like install/remove ... maybe use that to
 show what "<package>" means? ... if this could stop people doing
"yum list
 | grep foo", that would be a huge win :)

 7. "yum list install '*yum'*" should be "yum list installed
'*yum*'" ...
 this is almost certainly my fault :).

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#179: Help with cheatsheet design/template
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Reporter:  james              |        Owner:  schendje     
    Type:  task               |       Status:  assigned     
Priority:  major              |    Component:  Other Artwork
Severity:  Quick & Easy       |   Resolution:               
Keywords:  needinfo-reporter  |  
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Comment (by schendje):

 Noted! Thanks for the feedback. :)

 I'll work some more on this and let you know how it goes.

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#179: Help with cheatsheet design/template
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Reporter:  james              |       Owner:  schendje
    Type:  task               |      Status:  closed
Priority:  major              |   Component:  Other Artwork
Severity:  Quick & Easy       |  Resolution:  fixed
Keywords:  needinfo-reporter  |  Blocked By:
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Changes (by ryanlerch):

 * resolution:   => fixed
 * status:  assigned => closed


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