Critique for Ticket #159: Freemedia Mailer Design
by twohot
Hello(s):)
In October 08, 2010, I submitted a design for ticket #159. Back then, I
wanted the team to critique the work. (See follow-up comment #5 at
https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/159). The team was focusing
on the wallpaper design for F14 at that time and so, nothing much was
said about my solution.
I'd like to present it again. I have included the initial mail below as
it contains my thoughts on the work at that time. I look forward to your
comments.
INITIAL MAIL FOLLOWS:-------------------------------------------------
Hello People,
I have uploaded a skirmish design for ticket #159.
Here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Freemedia-mailer-A4-type-A.svgz#file
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Freemedia-mailer-A4-type-B.svgz#file
After much research on mailer regulations, I settled for a 5.25"x5.25"
size mailer jacket. It might be worth it to pursue a design for a
6"x7.25" generic envelop for overprotective people ... like me (I like
to add extra padding/polystyrene to project the media). I couldn't find
much for European mailer regulations so I hope this is universal enough.
I used Bitstream Vera Sans for Addresses taking cognizance of accepted
mailer typeface (USPS). I believe the font is free from license issues.
Correct me if I'm wrong. The 'Air Mail' label employs yet another open
font - IM Fell Double Pica. I have two proposals, A & B. The variation
lies with the Logos on the Front Side. I am not sure an "Air Mail"
label placed on the right is acceptable by law -- well, my predecessor
had his like that so, ... I made a version like that too. It seems
better that way. However, all other reference materials I found, had it
on the left which would put our lovely fedora logo out of place ...
In type-B, The only place the fedora logo can fit in is between the
Return Address and the Recipient's Address (Turn on 'restrictions' layer
for further guidance'). Well, the front is encumbered by restrictions so
I couldn't do much there. The rear allowed for some innovation but I
kept it minimal as requested. Feel free to check out those designs and
critique as necessary. You might want to view some of my reference
materials ... I hope I was well guided:
http://ribbs.usps.gov/onecodesolution/SPUSPS-B-3200E001.pdf
http://ankursinha.fedorapeople.org/mailer/
http://www.baystateenvelope.com/pdfs/Postal%20Guidelines%20Primer.pdf
http://www.siemons.com/forms/pdf/designing_letter_reply_mail.pdf
http://xml.coverpages.org/USPS-PostalAddressingPub28.pdf
http://pe.usps.com/mpdesign/pdf/PBRMCrd/ -->various cards with address
layout by USPS
http://ascenseur.fedorapeople.org/fedora_mailer_new.otg
MORE IDEAS:
As I was working on this, I got this crazy idea. I may be asking for
much, but what if the Addressing was automated ... just like the Fedora
Ambassadors business Cards? What if we could type a bash command and
get the code to read the Freemedia Contributor's Details, fill that in,
fill-in the supplied recipient from the Freemedia form dB ...and the
result is the approved design bearing all that is necessary. Just
print, fold, glue, stamp, and mail. How about that? The code could even
do the Intelligent bar coding (that thing adds another attraction to the
entire design ...you know). All details for that are contained in one of
the reference materials above -- they even added the source code (at
least it looked like it). Oops ... enough rambling. I hope I've not
been too naive
regards
--
Oku Onyeibo
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:twohot
12 years, 8 months
cross community influences without losing a brand?
by Jakub Steiner
Hi folks!
When people are done discussing existence threats and all that (kidding, kidding ;), here's a few assets that might be a good starting point to play around the idea of Lovelock Ocean Pipes[1] while getting some influence from the upstream GNOME stripes. I don't think it works all too well for the wallpaper itself as it's way too busy, but I like the texture for all the rest -- Plymouth backdrop, gdm background, posters, DVD inlays etc.
This isn't another external push to a specific direction. It's not to direct anyone anywhere. It's to inspire you guys to experiment. I'm pretty sure there's more to mine out of Lovelock. I can't identify with dismissal without actually trying it. In my view a boundary in which a designer has to be creative in is more empowering than given complete freedom. I can totally see these upstream influences incorporated into a distro with a completely different palette, like openSUSE. But that probably wouldn't be appropriate at all for me to try :)
Ingredients -- http://gitorious.org/gnome-design/gnome-design/trees/master/wallpaper/sea...
Serving suggestions -- http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/24178/1/f15-seapipes?h=b9e52e
The main project file requires Blender 2.5, but there's also individual bits rendered in the XCF if you only want to experiment there.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Lovelock
--
Jakub Steiner
http://jimmac.musichall.cz
12 years, 8 months
GNOME background in Fedora 15
by Owen Taylor
Hi design team -
So, obviously there has been a lot of discussion over the last few days
about the desktop background in Fedora 15 and GNOME 3 but since there
seems to be still a bit of confusion about it, I wanted to step back and
try to write things down a little more formally and hopefully explain
better why we'd like to do something a little different for GNOME in
Fedora 15.
("We" here is basically the set of people who work to package up GNOME
for Fedora - almost all of us combine upstream maintainership of modules
within GNOME with work on making the Fedora desktop. For example,
I'm the lead maintainer of GNOME Shell and the Mutter compositor
upstream, and also handle gnome-shell, mutter, metacity, and several
other packages within Fedora.)
GNOME 3 in Fedora 15 is a big deal. For perspective, GNOME 2.0 was
released in June of 2002, and it was first shipped in Red Hat Linux 8.
We started specific work on the GNOME 3 release in October of 2008, over
2 years ago. So, as you can imagine, there's a lot of effort being put
in on the GNOME side to make a big splash about the GNOME 3 release and
really do a good job about getting information out to people about
what's new and exciting in GNOME 3.
Part of publicity about GNOME 3 is establishing an image in people's
minds about what GNOME looks like. The GNOME 3 look has many
elements ... the widget theme, the black top panel and status icon drop
downs, the fonts we use, and so forth. One prominent part of the
appearance is the background. (The background has a new functional role
in GNOME 3. As well as being behind all the users windows, it also
provides the background to the GNOME "Activities Overview". You can see
how this works, for example, in the screenshot in
http://blogs.gnome.org/fmuellner/2010/11/16/moving-forward/)
If someone reads about GNOME 3 and gets excited about it and wants to
try it out, then they'll need to try it out within a Linux distribution
There's no way to install and try out "GNOME" by itself. Quite a few
different distributions will be shipping GNOME 3 this spring, but we
expect Fedora to be one of the most popular, if not the most popular of
those distributions. (Ubuntu is going their own way with Unity and will
not be featuring GNOME 3.)
After going and getting GNOME on some distribution, the user blogs about
their experiences or writes an article, we'd really like it if the focus
was on what's new in GNOME 3 not how it was integrated and modified for
one distribution or another distribution. Changing the background seems
like a pretty minor modification, and functionally it is a pretty minor
modification, but it is also a major visual modification. Suddenly a
screenshot is no longer a screenshot of GNOME 3, it's a screenshot of
GNOME 3 as modified for a particular distribution.
We want Fedora to be the showcase for GNOME 3 and to be a good example
to other distributions about how to package GNOME 3. So, to go along
with the release splash for Fedora 15, we'd like to make special request
that for this release we use the GNOME background in the Fedora GNOME
packages and hence in the default Fedora desktop.
I want to be clear that this is not in any way saying that we don't like
the Fedora backgrounds ... the recent Fedora backgrounds are great, and
keep on getting cleaner and more professional looking every release. The
issue is rather a question of trying to provide a single look for the
GNOME 3 release rather than a series of looks, one per distribution.
To try and provide a few answers to questions that already have come up:
* Is this really just for Fedora 15?
Yes. The request is specifically to ship the GNOME background as the
default for Fedora 15.
* Would the Fedora background be available for GNOME users?
Yes. The desktop background is a place for users to customize their
desktop and express their personality ... there is no idea that we'd
restrict that customization. GNOME will ship a varied collection of
different backgrounds. Providing the Fedora design
team's background as another option makes a ton of sense to me.
* Is the GNOME background really that distinctive?
A background that looked like nothing anybody had ever seen before
would likely be a pretty strange background. So, yes, it's possible
to find previously released backgrounds that are very similar. But
that doesn't mean that the overall combination of visual features
involved in GNOME 3 isn't distinctive and memorable.
* What about the rest of the artwork?
I think trying to adapt the entire set of artwork in Fedora to have
different looks for different spins is probably more confusing then
anything else. The GNOME default background matches pretty well with
the Fedora look, so it's not going to be jarring to switch to it
after seeing the standard Fedora artwork for boot.
* What about other desktops in Fedora?
We're not trying to say that there is anything fundamentally
different about the GNOME desktop in Fedora than any other desktop;
While we do think GNOME 3 is a special occasion for GNOME, every
desktop should be able to work with the Fedora design team to figure
out what makes the most sense for a release.
And while I think it would be a bit strange and confusing for other
desktops to use a GNOME background as their default, there's
no barrier for other spins to include the gnome-themes-standard
package and depend on the
/usr/share/themes/Adwaita/backgrounds/stripes.jpg
if they want.
I know the desktop is a big part of the expression of Fedora's design
personality and its a lot to ask of the design team to have something
else as the default background for the default desktop for this release,
but I think it is a distinct positive for the release of GNOME 3. And
working together with upstream well is something that's fundamental to
Fedora. So hopefully a lot to ask is not too much to ask :-)
Please let me know what additional questions and concerns you have and
if we can move forward on this. Thanks!
- Owen
12 years, 8 months
My introduction to design-team
by imdad areeph
I am willing to join the Fedora Artwork Project desperately.
I want to contribute my work for the group.
i make fantasy Artworks, abstract wallpapers,system icons,logo designing.In
the beginning it was simply an interest, but now it is my passion.
a simple wallpaper created by me.
http://i46.tinypic.com/23m7i45.jpg
I am also interested in HTML/CSS
I make small interresting games in C++/java
But mostly, i like editing pictures and designing logos.
--
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Imdad Areeph
Jayanagar,Bangalore.
ph :+919886250912
Designation : Comp. Sc Engg.
imdadareeph(a)gmail.com
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12 years, 9 months
request for task
by Manav Garg
hello fedora design team,
im a new member of this society though i have been using fedora(linux) for a
long time now. so i would like to contribute to the society. i have
knowledge of photoshop and gimp and fairly good at designing. So please
asign me a task so that i can start contributing.
hoping to hear from you as soon as possible
Manav garg
12 years, 9 months
Fedora 15 GNOME Default Wallpaper
by emeka＠bensoftent.com
I think this is pretty easy, If GNOME 3.0 wallpaper must be there by
default, we could add in a new feature during bootup or just before a
users first login asking the user to choose between Fedora's Default
Wallpaper & GNOME 3.0 Default wallpaper. Here the user is King. Lets not
forget that GNOME's come a long way & we have some of our very own working
with them. Fedora has always been a platform for true open source
applications. Lets carry GNOME 3.0 along even though we could make
provisions for UNITY or even google chrome much later.
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> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 03:09:14 +0100
> From: Onyeibo Oku <twohotis(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Design-team] GNOME background in Fedora 15
> To: Fedora Design Team <design-team(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>
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> On 12/19/2010 03:02 AM, Jim Campbell wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> 2010/12/18 M?ir?n Duffy <duffy(a)fedoraproject.org
>> <mailto:duffy@fedoraproject.org>>
>>
>> On Sun, 2010-12-19 at 02:16 +0100, Martin Sourada wrote:
>> > No, no, you misunderstood. I don't imply we should ship to gnome
>> spins.
>> > We should either ship in F15 gnome as pristine as possible or
>> just do it
>> > they way we do it usually. Neither of these should of course
>> affect
>> > other spins and IMHO also not DVD install.
>>
>> Why? Again, you are proposing this all or nothing thinking and I
>> completely do not understand it. Can you please explain?
>>
>> > PS: I think we should slowly kill this thread, I'm running "out
>> of
>> > ammo", your arguments also haven't been strong enough to make me
>> change
>> > my mind and I wouldn't want to make this into a flame...
>>
>> We have to make a decision.
>>
>> ~m
>>
>>
>>
>> I think that the Fedora Project is in a good spot here in that the
>> default Gnome3 wallpaper is a shade of blue that coincides nicely with
>> the colors that Fedora uses anyway.
>>
>> The same cannot be said of OpenSUSE, though.
>>
>> Given the hubbub that is in Fedora where there isn't really a conflict
>> of colors, but other distros would likely have a conflict with the
>> colors, would upstream Gnome be willing to compromise on this? Would
>> upstream be willing to allow distros to create stripe-based wallpapers
>> that include the same design pattern, same degree of saturation, same
>> texture, etc., but use different distro-specific colors? After all,
>> could we really expect OpenSUSE to ship a blue theme? So much of their
>> artwork (website, icon set, metacity theme, etc.) is green. And I have
>> never seen a blue gecko. : (
>>
>> If we were able get a compromise like this, I think that there would be
>> greater likelihood of buy-in from the various the distros. They would be
>> representing and celebrating Gnome, but would retain key portions of
>> their own distro "self." Perhaps even Ubuntu would be willing to ship an
>> aubergine stripe-based theme as part of their wallpaper set (though, of
>> course, not as their default, as they are using Unity).
>>
>> This could also potentially benefit Gnome, as they could do something
>> like, "Different Colors, One Gnome," or something like that. The Gnome
>> brand identity could be visible in the stripes, while the distros get
>> their identity in the colors.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>
> That's what I thought too
> --
> Oku Onyeibo
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:twohot
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 10:40:15 +0100
> From: Martin Sourada <martin.sourada(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Design-team] GNOME background in Fedora 15
> To: Fedora Design Team <design-team(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>
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> On Sat, 2010-12-18 at 20:34 -0500, M?ir?n Duffy wrote:
>> On Sun, 2010-12-19 at 02:16 +0100, Martin Sourada wrote:
>> > No, no, you misunderstood. I don't imply we should ship to gnome
>> spins.
>> > We should either ship in F15 gnome as pristine as possible or just do
>> it
>> > they way we do it usually. Neither of these should of course affect
>> > other spins and IMHO also not DVD install.
>>
>> Why? Again, you are proposing this all or nothing thinking and I
>> completely do not understand it. Can you please explain?
>>
> Because I don't understand at all why change only the wallpaper. How
> does that help anyone. It's like doing something half-heartedly to me.
>
>> > PS: I think we should slowly kill this thread, I'm running "out of
>> > ammo", your arguments also haven't been strong enough to make me
>> change
>> > my mind and I wouldn't want to make this into a flame...
>>
>> We have to make a decision.
> Agreed. Seems to me like vote is the best option (probably FAS based as
> not everyone has time to attend an IRC meeting). As I already said,
> while I'm personally against granting this request, I wouldn't mind
> granting it if majority of our team is for it.
>
12 years, 9 months
[Anaconda] Redesign language-keyboard layout selection
by Luya Tshimbalanga
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Based on Mo's template, I made a mockup for the new language and
keyboard layout.
Both are merged and each variant are grouped from their respective list.
Keyboard input field has been added for testing. Any comments?
Ref:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/UX_Redesign/Anaconda_Language-Key...
- --
Luya Tshimbalanga
Graphic & Web Designer
E: luya(a)fedoraproject.org
W: http://www.thefinalzone.net
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12 years, 9 months
