F15 wallpaper 0-day update
by Máirín Duffy
Hi folks,
I'm going to work on some polish updates to the non-GNOME 3 wallpaper
for F15 to put in for a zero-day update. I am going to try to get them
done by Thursday AM to get packaged and pushed. Let me know if you have
any ideas on finishing the design; I'll post updates on what I've got
here to the list as I crank them out.
~m
12 years, 11 months
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by twohot
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12 years, 11 months
Re: [Design-team] [Design Team] #181: Add Fedora Logo to "Appreciation Certificate"
by Buddhike Kurera
This is related with Ticket #181
Please comment and comments are welcome. :)
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Design Team <trac(a)fedorahosted.org> wrote:
> #181: Add Fedora Logo to "Appreciation Certificate"
>
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> Reporter: spot | Owner: bckurera
> Type: task | Status: assigned
> Priority: major | Component: Other Artwork
> Severity: Quick & Easy | Resolution:
> Keywords: |
>
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> Comment (by spot):
>
> All the information I have is on the original certificate.
>
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> Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/181#comment:6>
> Design Team <http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Design>
> Fedora Design Team
>
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Regards,
*Buddhike Chandradeepa Kurera*
12 years, 11 months
Re: [Design-team] F15 wallpaper 0-day update
by Kevin Kofler
(Again, sorry for the out-of-thread replies, hopefully Gmane will fix things so
I can reply through the NNTP interface and get things threaded properly.)
Máirín Duffy wrote:
> I feel as if there's a lot more respect here for process than the
> outcome of the process. In the end how much does it matter that reviews
> show a different wallpaper? Are reviewers more important than Fedora
> users?
Screenshots in reviews are the first thing users see of Fedora. The GA
wallpaper is also what users see when they run the live image, install from it
and then boot it. They are going to be really surprised when the wallpaper
changes on them after they update the first time, and there WILL be complaints
about it no matter how much better the changed theme is. (People have different
tastes, even the ugliest things are considered "beautiful" by some people. And
for that matter, I don't consider the GA wallpaper to be ugly at all.)
In addition, your proposed theme changes break Jaroslav's KDM and KSplash
theme designs.
Máirín Duffy wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-05-18 at 16:39 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> (FWIW, I'm also technically a Design Team member, though I haven't
>> actively worked on anything design/artwork-related for several Fedora
>> releases now, Jaroslav was the one doing the recent KDM and KSplash
>> themes.)
>
> So many people are so quick to declare themselves a 'Fedora Design Team
> member.'
>
> But when things need to get done, and deadlines need to be met, somehow
> folks are not so quick to stand up.
>
> If you haven't participated in a single team meeting or not worked on
> anything design/artwork-related for several Fedora releases, I think you
> can safely consider yourself not a design team member.
That's why I wrote "technically". Let's be clear: I'm only speaking as a KDE
SIG member, not as a design team member.
On the other hand, Jaroslav has been designing the KDM and KSplash themes for
all recent releases. And Martin Sourada and María Leandro (tatica) are
definitely design team members.
Kevin Kofler
12 years, 11 months
Re: [Design-team] F15 wallpaper 0-day update
by Kevin Kofler
(Sorry for the out-of-thread replies, but Gmane has the e-mail address to
gateway to set incorrectly, so I can only reply by direct mail.)
Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> I could do the change but not as 0 day update - it has to go to final,
> otherwise it's going to be very disruptive change.
But the final release is already declared gold, it's too late for that.
Really, the only thing we can do here is to keep the wallpaper that ships on
our current ISOs. I don't see it as being "unfinished" or "broken". In fact,
the feedback from our users was very positive. And even if it were unfinished,
the deadline for finishing it would have been the Final Change Deadline on
May 9.
I fully agree with you that such a change is not acceptable for a 0-day
update.
Máirín Duffy wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-05-18 at 11:27 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> Your redesigned wallpaper can be shipped as an alternate (optional)
>> theme, but it's really too late to change the default! Sorry!
>
> I kind of thought this was the design team's call. So....
I am sorry to disappoint you, but the Design Team is bound by the same
freezes as the rest of the distribution. In addition, if I look at the
feedback from Martin and María (tatica), I'm not convinced that the Design
Team as a whole is backing the proposed change, either.
(FWIW, I'm also technically a Design Team member, though I haven't actively
worked on anything design/artwork-related for several Fedora releases now,
Jaroslav was the one doing the recent KDM and KSplash themes.)
Kevin Kofler
12 years, 11 months
Re: [Design-team] F15 wallpaper 0-day update
by Kevin Kofler
Máirín Duffy wrote:
> Attached is what I came up with so far... the source is a big xcf.gz,
> I'll hopefully be able to upload it in the AM.
I'm sorry, but this is very different from the current final wallpaper and
as such not suitable for an update at all. (In fact, there shouldn't be any
design changes at all to the wallpaper in an update.) Don't take me wrong,
this is not a criticism of the design itself (though I must admit I
personally like the F15 GA wallpaper better), but of the proposed delivery
method.
As Jaroslav pointed out, changing the KDE Plasma wallpaper under us will
break the KDM and KSplash themes (and/or the transition from KDM/KSplash to
the actual Plasma desktop).
In addition, the wallpaper is a distinctive element of the look&feel of the
distribution. Many screenshots will be taken (or have already been taken,
even) of Fedora 15 with the GA wallpaper. Having an update change the
default wallpaper is a very bad idea.
Your redesigned wallpaper can be shipped as an alternate (optional) theme,
but it's really too late to change the default! Sorry!
Kevin Kofler
(KDE SIG member)
12 years, 11 months
