Fedora Badges: Switching from badges@lists.fp.o list to Discourse?
by Justin W. Flory
Hi all,
Tonight, Marie and I had an in-person Badges sprint today and one of the
things we discussed was migrating the badges(a)lists.fp.o mailing list to
a new Discourse category on discussion.fedoraproject.org.
CommOps and a few other sub-projects have switched, and others like the
Fedora Council are weighing the possibility too. We hope it might make
discussions around Fedora Badges more visible and hopefully encourage
more people to participate (it wasn't until Marie posted to this list
that I realized it existed, or that I was subscribed to it).
What do you all say? Is anyone interested in trying this out?
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Cheers,
Justin W. Flory
jflory7(a)gmail.com
4 years, 10 months
Re: Fedora Badges: Switching from badges@lists.fp.o list to Discourse?
by Máirín Duffy
Well no. Pagure makes sense bc it's the main status tracking mechanism and integrates everything together. Not that it's ideal for mail.
It does cause other issues. Bc pagure has its own mail system based on FAS (rather than list fwd as BZ does), I cannot control on project by project basis my mail delivery prefs. BC of limited @redhat.com mail quota I pay for 3rd party email for my fedoraproject.org emails, and I do not follow that acct as closely bc of the sheer volume (my github and gitlab mail goes to same acct.) There are a a handful of pagure projs Id like delivered to my rh mail but have no control to do that.
Bc mailman is centered on delivering mails, it has far more opts for configuring in such a scenario.
@ tagging me does no good bc of this. If I notice it at all it'll take a few days.
I dont know if it makes sense to shut down the list or ban discussion on it, what good would it do?
~m
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-------- Original message --------From: Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> Date: 10/18/18 5:43 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Fedora Design Team <design-team(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> Cc: badges(a)lists.fedoraproject.org, "Justin W. Flory" <jflory7(a)gmail.com> Subject: [Design-team] Re: Fedora Badges: Switching from badges(a)lists.fp.o list to Discourse?
On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 12:10:43AM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> The Badges team is ticket driven. Discussions happen in Pagure. Newbies
> are oriented via the Design team new member process and are often pointed
> to the Badges Pagure queue to find an initial task to work on. Your
> observations about activity on the badge list, Justin, evidence this.
This is interesting. I assume that the team switched to having Pagure be the
focus for discussion for some of the reasons that Discourse appeals: the
ability to upload and display graphics inline (without the... challenges...
of HTML mail), @tagging people, and so on.
I have a different proposal, then... why not shut down the badges list, and
just direct people to Pagure? Or, keep the list, but change the description
to note that it's for announcements rather than discussion?
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Fedora Project Leader
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Meeting times
by Máirín Duffy
Hi everybody,
The past few meetings, we haven't had anyone show up.
Because our tickets are so active, I don't think this is because folks aren't around and interested and doing cool work (it's happening quite a lot.) So I'm thinking there's some issue - either the meeting time is difficult to make, or something else.
Can we talk about this? What can we do to make the meetings easier to attend? I'm totally open to changing the meeting time if that will help.
Cheers,
~m
4 years, 11 months
Re: Considering a logo refresh
by Máirín Duffy
What do you think fellow, design team members?
Full disclosure, I brought this up to Matthew yesterday when we were discussing the ticket on converting the logo guidelines to asciidoc. We realized they have to be updated with some of the new stuff we've been working on (Fedora IoT logo, Fedora CoreOS logo, etc). And I complained about how I wish I could update the logo too :-)
I think a lot of us have struggled with the inability to do one color and the off-centeredness of the bubble. (And wouldn't an open source font be nice??)
~m
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-------- Original message --------From: "Justin W. Flory" <jflory7(a)gmail.com> Date: 10/4/18 5:45 PM (GMT-05:00) To: council-discuss(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Cc: Fedora Design Team <design-team(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> Subject: [Design-team] Re: Considering a logo refresh
On 10/4/18 5:02 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> Our "freedom + infinity + voice" logo is awesome -- but it also has some
> problems:
>
> * It doesn't work well at small sizes
> * It doesn't work at all in a single color
> * The "voice" bubble means it's hard to center visually in designs
> * The Fedora wordmark is based on a non-open-source font
> * I'm tired of explaining that it's not Facebook
>
> As much as I love our "classic" logo, I think it may be time for a refresh.
>
> It's not just about problems -- as we're getting into Year 15, and five
> years (!) of Fedora.next, our editions strategy is drifting away from
> "Fedora + logical thing" (like "Fedora Server" or "Fedora Cloud") into more
> unique brands like "Fedora CoreOS" or "Fedora Silverblue". As I said at
> Flock, the important thing about Fedora to me is the _people_ — I'd like
> "Fedora" to be more assocated with the project and the community rather than
> our software artifacts. I'd love to have a logo which can work as a
> "community umbrella".
>
> What do you think?
>
This logic makes sense to me. I'm also open-minded to a 2018 refresh.
There should probably be some level of engagement with the Fedora Design
Team on this too.
It is too bad tattoos aren't as easy to update as Fedora. :)
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