On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 15:59 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote:
On 12/17/2010 03:40 PM, Owen Taylor wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 09:10 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote:
>> On 12/17/2010 01:54 AM, Owen Taylor wrote:
>>>
>>> I want to be clear that this is not in any way saying that we don't
like
>>> the Fedora backgrounds ... the recent Fedora backgrounds are great, and
>>> keep on getting cleaner and more professional looking every release. The
>>> issue is rather a question of trying to provide a single look for the
>>> GNOME 3 release rather than a series of looks, one per distribution.
>>
>> Can you name at least one other *relevant* distro that will use the same
>> background as default? Especially if they know this may be *our* default?
>
> I'll certainly talk to the OpenSuSE and Debian GNOME maintainers and try
> to make convince them to make the same choice. I'm much more likely to
> succeed in that request if I have the support of the Fedora design team
> already lined up. And I really don't think how we configure our desktop
> should be held hostage to getting Debian to do the same thing. Fedora
> should be a leader here in working well with upstream.
With that you just invalidated your point above about "trying to provide
a single look for the GNOME 3 release rather than a series of looks",
all this "using the upstream" make sense *only* if everybody that
matters is doing it.
The first two looks that I want to coordinate are the look of upstream -
the look we are going to feature on
gnome3.org when that launches. And
the look of the distribution I care most about: Fedora. Hopefully that
will provide a good basis to get other distributions to take take same
approach, but I simply don't have a lot of influence over what Debian
does.
> My proposal is is straightforward:
>
> Once you select a user and log in to GNOME, you get the GNOME default
> background. All other artwork follows normal Fedora procedures.
So by default I get a GDM with vertical stripes and when choosing
anything else than GNOME Shell (be it the classic panel or Xfce), the
background image will change, while if I go to use the Shell, the
background stays consistent? That's treating everything else as
second-class.
Please reread what I wrote.
(Note that the fallback mode of GNOME 3 which uses gnome-panel and
metacity uses all the same components and configuration for background
selection and display as the normal mode will have the same background.)
- Owen