On 08/23/2014 09:01 AM, Elad Alfassa wrote:

      
Most of these conversations are not happening at all. Since
maintainers don't approach designers, I think we need to do this the
other way around:
Designers should find apps which require design attention, and file
bugs about UX problems in them and submit mockups.

Some apps which I think could use some design attention:
 * firewall-config
 * selinux troubleshooter
 * gnome-abrt (in this case the maintainer is already listening to
design feedback and implementing fixes, which is great, but more
design input would be useful)
 * DevAssistant
 *

I'm aware that in the past work was being done at least on some of
these apps, but they have a lot of UX problems which should be
addressed in my opinion - and I'm not saying designers who work /
worked on these apps do / did a bad job, I'm just saying there's more
to be done.

And I'm sure there are a lot more apps in Fedora which could use
design attention.


I think that is an interesting approach of blending both artwork and design stuff. Those are one of strongest aspect  both Mint, OpenSUSE and Ubuntu did well so our Design Team can take note and expand beyond the simple wallpaper work.
Now that GTK3 is out (http://blogs.gnome.org/aday/2014/08/21/new-human-interface-guidelines-for-gnome-and-gtk/), it will be a good opportunity to learn the convention and made a mockup for the listed applications. Same thing of other DE like KDE and Enlightenment.

Long term benefits will be new extra skills valuable in real world.
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Luya Tshimbalanga
Fedora Design Team
Design Suite spin maintainer