Fedora GTK Theme

[Marcus Moeller]

Hi all,

I have created a little GTK theme based on the Aurora engine.

Here is what it looks like:

http://www.marcus-moeller.de/share/Fedora_Theme_01.png

I tried to make it look visually unique and eye friendly. It fits with
the current GNOME icon set.

[Nelson Marques]

Hi Marcus,

Good job. My personal position is that any brand (such as fedora)
should have a strong visual identity, which eventually brings up the
theming.

I will be one of the persons supporting work being developed on this
field for several reasons.

I would probably point this to you:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/NodokaTheme
 https://fedorahosted.org/nodoka/

I believe Martin is also a contributor for Fedora Design. 
 I'm not a graphics artist, but if there is anything I can help to
improve the visual identity of Fedora, I'll gladly help, even if it is
with packaging.

Thanks for bringing great synergies in this field.

nelson

On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 16:07 +0200, Marcus Moeller wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have created a little GTK theme based on the Aurora engine.
>
> Here is what it looks like:
>
> http://www.marcus-moeller.de/share/Fedora_Theme_01.png
>
> I tried to make it look visually unique and eye friendly. It fits with
> the current GNOME icon set.

[Kris Thomsen]

Is there a place I can download it?

// Kris

2010/6/30 Nelson Marques :
> Hi Marcus,
>
> Good job. My personal position is that any brand (such as fedora)
> should have a strong visual identity, which eventually brings up the
> theming.
>
> I will be one of the persons supporting work being developed on this
> field for several reasons.
>
> I would probably point this to you:
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/NodokaTheme
>  https://fedorahosted.org/nodoka/
>
> I believe Martin is also a contributor for Fedora Design.
>  I'm not a graphics artist, but if there is anything I can help to
> improve the visual identity of Fedora, I'll gladly help, even if it is
> with packaging.
>
> Thanks for bringing great synergies in this field.
>
> nelson
>
> On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 16:07 +0200, Marcus Moeller wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have created a little GTK theme based on the Aurora engine.
> >
> > Here is what it looks like:
> >
> > http://www.marcus-moeller.de/share/Fedora_Theme_01.png
> >
> > I tried to make it look visually unique and eye friendly. It fits with
> > the current GNOME icon set.
>
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> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team

[Marcus Moeller]

Hi Kris,
> Is there a place I can download it?

First of all you need the Aurora Engine which can be found here:

http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=56438

I have created a little hack to de-crease the arrow size in which is
quite too big per default.

The patch can be found here:

http://www.marcus-moeller.de/share/aurora_draw.c.patch

You can download the theme itself from:

http://www.marcus-moeller.de/share/Newlooks_1_1.tar.gz

Just use the GNOME Appearance dialog to install.

Greets
Marcus

[Martin Sourada]

Hi,

On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 15:51 +0100, Nelson Marques wrote:
> Hi Marcus,
>
> Good job. My personal position is that any brand (such as fedora)
> should have a strong visual identity, which eventually brings up the
> theming.

There are few glitches here and there (see the status bar), but overal
it has a nice feel. I also think Fedora should have its own visual
identity, hence I started nodoka and it was even default in a few
releases of fedora, but then the desktop team decided (without
discussion with the design team) to switch back to clearlooks. It made
me a bit dispirited so the current state of nodoka development is
"stalled", although I wish to continue the development when I'll have
more time.
> I will be one of the persons supporting work being developed on this
> field for several reasons.
>
> I would probably point this to you:
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/NodokaTheme
>  https://fedorahosted.org/nodoka/

Marcus' theme is based on Arora gtk engine, for nodoka I accept only
nodoka gtk engine based themes. That said, if he has design ideas I
could use in nodoka (like completely new style or adjustments to the
current one), I'll gladly accept them.
> I believe Martin is also a contributor for Fedora Design.

Yes I am :D

Martin

[Marcus Moeller]

Hi Martin.
> > Good job. My personal position is that any brand (such as fedora)
> > should have a strong visual identity, which eventually brings up the
> > theming.
>
> There are few glitches here and there (see the status bar), but overal
> it has a nice feel. I also think Fedora should have its own visual

Status bar has been 'fixed' in 1.1.

My main intend is not to make this one 'official' it's just how I
personally like my desktop and if anyone else likes it: cool  :)
> identity, hence I started nodoka and it was even default in a few
> releases of fedora, but then the desktop team decided (without
> discussion with the design team) to switch back to clearlooks. It made
> me a bit dispirited so the current state of nodoka development is
> "stalled", although I wish to continue the development when I'll have
> more time.
> > I will be one of the persons supporting work being developed on this
> > field for several reasons.
> >
> > I would probably point this to you:
> >
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/NodokaTheme
> >  https://fedorahosted.org/nodoka/
>
> Marcus' theme is based on Arora gtk engine, for nodoka I accept only
> nodoka gtk engine based themes. That said, if he has design ideas I
> could use in nodoka (like completely new style or adjustments to the
> current one), I'll gladly accept them.

Let's start with the Openbox port and maybe just bring it back as
default, first.

Besides that we also have to think about GNOME 3 themes but I am not
sure if the theme infrastructure is already setup for the Shell.

[Nelson Marques]

On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 17:20 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 15:51 +0100, Nelson Marques wrote:
> > Hi Marcus,
> >
> > Good job. My personal position is that any brand (such as fedora)
> > should have a strong visual identity, which eventually brings up the
> > theming.
>
> There are few glitches here and there (see the status bar), but overal
> it has a nice feel. I also think Fedora should have its own visual
> identity, hence I started nodoka and it was even default in a few
> releases of fedora, but then the desktop team decided (without
> discussion with the design team) to switch back to clearlooks. It made
> me a bit dispirited so the current state of nodoka development is
> "stalled", although I wish to continue the development when I'll have
> more time.
> > I will be one of the persons supporting work being developed on this
> > field for several reasons.
> >
> > I would probably point this to you:
> >
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/NodokaTheme
> >  https://fedorahosted.org/nodoka/
>
> Marcus' theme is based on Arora gtk engine, for nodoka I accept only
> nodoka gtk engine based themes. That said, if he has design ideas I
> could use in nodoka (like completely new style or adjustments to the
> current one), I'll gladly accept them.

I don't understand much of GTK Theming, but I'm working for some in a
'Galatic Empire' (reference: star wars) theme with Nodoka ;)

I'll upload it one of this days on fedora-art.org.

As for the personal identity of Fedora, yes, I agree with you, we should
have one. Things like the ones you spoke above about Nodoka being
tackled, are things that make my marketing oriented mind thing in
concepts like 'open marketing' and Fedora as a Community distribution.

Keep up the good work, the 0.8 looks to be awesome from the designs I've
seen the other day on Nodoka @ fedorahosted.

nelson
> > I believe Martin is also a contributor for Fedora Design.
>
> Yes I am :D
>
> Martin
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[Nicu Buculei]

On 06/30/2010 05:51 PM, Nelson Marques wrote:
> Good job. My personal position is that any brand (such as fedora)
> should have a strong visual identity, which eventually brings up the
> theming.
>
> I will be one of the persons supporting work being developed on this
> field for several reasons.
>
> I would probably point this to you:
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/NodokaTheme
>   https://fedorahosted.org/nodoka/

Nodoka used to be our default theme until Matthias from the Red Hat 
Desktop Team unilaterally changed it with the upstream Clearlooks.
> I believe Martin is also a contributor for Fedora Design.
>   I'm not a graphics artist, but if there is anything I can help to
> improve the visual identity of Fedora, I'll gladly help, even if it is
> with packaging.

In fact we go the other way, rejecting icon themes, GTK themes, 
notification themes or any other visual identity produced by the Design 
Team.

[Nelson Marques]

On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 18:38 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:
> In fact we go the other way, rejecting icon themes, GTK themes, 
> notification themes or any other visual identity produced by the
> Design 
> Team.

Nicu,

I don't understand the above sentence, but here's what I think and I'm
not going to hold back my tongue about it.

From a marketing perspective, a brand is also composed of a visual
identity, and both of the previous together are part of something which
we define a product or a service (Fedora Linux marketing related is a
service). By stripping off the visual identity we are crippling our
image amongst our users.

I believe the Design Team is the best to know what to do or not to do.
But this is only my thought.

My personal position is still of support to the introduction of a
visual brand and highlight the work from the FEDORA community. Maybe
someday they will wake up to the world...

nelson

[Misha Shnurapet]

В Срд, 30/06/2010 в 17:40 +0100, Nelson Marques пишет:
> On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 18:38 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:
> > In fact we go the other way, rejecting icon themes, GTK themes, 
> > notification themes or any other visual identity produced by the
> > Design 
> > Team.
>
> Nicu,
>
> I don't understand the above sentence, but here's what I think and I'm
> not going to hold back my tongue about it.

I think it was simply ironic. :)

I liked the Nodoka theme much more, and it was the identity for me. I
wasn't excited with the window borders that went with Nodoka, though,
because those seemed a bit outdated.

If I am not mistaken, it was removed from being default because of the
old engine that had (and still has) to be rewritten, and the theme had a
few minor bugs that the most active community members had been annoyed
with by the moment (I haven't seen any faults really).

[Marcus Moeller]

Hi all,
> > Good job. My personal position is that any brand (such as fedora)
> > should have a strong visual identity, which eventually brings up the
> > theming.
> >
> > I will be one of the persons supporting work being developed on this
> > field for several reasons.
> >
> > I would probably point this to you:
> >
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/NodokaTheme
> >   https://fedorahosted.org/nodoka/
>
> Nodoka used to be our default theme until Matthias from the Red Hat
> Desktop Team unilaterally changed it with the upstream Clearlooks.

Matthias already applied a lot of changes without asking the
Community. We should again try to talk to him or raise this issue to
the board, if this does not help.

Greets
Marcus