Default Theme Thoughts

[Ryan Gauger]

Design team,

We do many things, one of the many things we do is create and choose the default
wallpapers for the next release of Fedora. I thought (thinking about Ubuntu) that it would
be really cool for Fedora to have its own default theme, possibly keeping the default
GNOME theme as an option, but using the default Fedora theme by default. In my opinion, it
would be really cool for Fedora to have its own unique theme that maybe, possibly changes
every three or four releases, making small, supplemental changes. This way, when a Linux
user looks at the Fedora desktop without the wallpaper giving it away, that user would
know right away that that computer was running Fedora. Again, not really needed, but would
be really nice, possibly very fun to create the themes too. Now, I will shut up since I
have no clue as to how to make a theme, but there is probably at least one person in this
team who does know how to make themes. Might be, also might not be a good idea. Thanks!!!

---Ryan

Sent from my iPod

[Chris Beiser]

I understand the sentiment; it would be kinda cool to have a distinct 'Fedora'
visual style. But. Keep in mind first that Fedora is the only major linux distro I know of
that uses Gnome 3.x out of the box; there's not exactly that much additional
individuality that could be gained (at least for now) by creating a new skin. Furthermore,
the Gnome designers really have been working pretty hard on Adwaita; I'm pretty
confident we'd have trouble out-designing them on all the theming; most everything in
Gnome 3 works as a harmonious whole, down to the typeface, and if we wanted to change
something (lets say, the titlebars), I think we'd have a lot of trouble making
everything else fit without redesigning everything. If a Fedora user wanted people to
notice their distro, they could use a default wallpaper, and if they wanted to make it
look different, they could install a theme, but I don't think it would make sense to
fragment the Gnome 3 experience and slight all the fantastic Gn
 ome desi
gners in order to make Fedora look a little different after install.

-- 
Chris Beiser


On Monday, December 12, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Ryan Gauger wrote:

>  Design team,
>  
>  We do many things, one of the many things we do is create and choose the default
> wallpapers for the next release of Fedora. I thought (thinking about Ubuntu) that it would
> be really cool for Fedora to have its own default theme, possibly keeping the default
> GNOME theme as an option, but using the default Fedora theme by default. In my opinion, it
> would be really cool for Fedora to have its own unique theme that maybe, possibly changes
> every three or four releases, making small, supplemental changes. This way, when a Linux
> user looks at the Fedora desktop without the wallpaper giving it away, that user would
> know right away that that computer was running Fedora. Again, not really needed, but would
> be really nice, possibly very fun to create the themes too. Now, I will shut up since I
> have no clue as to how to make a theme, but there is probably at least one person in this
> team who does know how to make themes. Might be, also might not be a good idea. Thanks!!!
>  
>  ---Ryan
>  
>  Sent from my iPod

[Elad]

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 6:34 AM, Chris Beiser <ctbeiser(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  I understand the sentiment; it would be kinda cool to have a
> distinct
>  'Fedora' visual style. But. Keep in mind first that Fedora is the only
>  major linux distro I know of that uses Gnome 3.x out of the box; there's
>  not exactly that much additional individuality that could be gained (at
>  least for now) by creating a new skin. Furthermore, the Gnome designers
>  really have been working pretty hard on Adwaita; I'm pretty confident we'd
>  have trouble out-designing them on all the theming; most everything in
>  Gnome 3 works as a harmonious whole, down to the typeface, and if we wanted
>  to change something (lets say, the titlebars), I think we'd have a lot of
>  trouble making everything else fit without redesigning everything. If a
>  Fedora user wanted people to notice their distro, they could use a default
>  wallpaper, and if they wanted to make it look different, they could install
>  a theme, but I don't think it would make sense to fragment the Gnome 3
>  experience and slight all the fantastic Gnome designers in order to make
>  Fedora look a little different after install.
>
>  --
>  Chris Beiser
>
>  On Monday, December 12, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Ryan Gauger wrote:
>
>  Design team,
>
>  We do many things, one of the many things we do is create and choose the
>  default wallpapers for the next release of Fedora. I thought (thinking
>  about Ubuntu) that it would be really cool for Fedora to have its own
>  default theme, possibly keeping the default GNOME theme as an option, but
>  using the default Fedora theme by default. In my opinion, it would be
>  really cool for Fedora to have its own unique theme that maybe, possibly
>  changes every three or four releases, making small, supplemental changes.
>  This way, when a Linux user looks at the Fedora desktop without the
>  wallpaper giving it away, that user would know right away that that
>  computer was running Fedora. Again, not really needed, but would be really
>  nice, possibly very fun to create the themes too. Now, I will shut up since
>  I have no clue as to how to make a theme, but there is probably at least
>  one person in this team who does know how to make themes. Might be, also
>  might not be a good idea. Thanks!!!
>
>  ---Ryan
>
>  Sent from my iPod
>
>
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We are going to stick with GNOME's upstream design. You are free to work on
whatever theme you like, but it won't be default.
-- 
-Elad Alfassa.