New subject: design-team Digest, Vol 56, Issue 9

19 Dec 2013

      Can i get something to do?
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Re: About nuancier (S.Kemter)
Re: About nuancier (Pierre-Yves Chibon)

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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 15:24:12 +0100
From: "S.Kemter" sirko.kemter@gmail.com
To: Pierre-Yves Chibon pingou@pingoured.fr
Cc: Fedora Design Team design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org
Subject: Re: [Design-team] About nuancier
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Hi,
2013/12/18 Pierre-Yves Chibon pingou@pingoured.fr
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On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 02:33:17PM +0100, S.Kemter wrote:
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Hi,
2013/12/18 Pierre-Yves Chibon pingou@pingoured.fr
 On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 01:40:44PM +0100, S.Kemter wrote:
 >    First of all, I am still not convinced to get the pressure

back to
...
 have an
 >    FAS account for an submission, we agreed for F19 that that

would be
...
 not
 >    necessary but we had no way arround as you need one for the

wiki.
...
 So there
 >    was only two who used the way to send me something and I

submitted
...
 it to
 >    the wiki.

 Well you can still submit the file in the name of someone else.

yeah but you are not the author, so how shall I notice that then?
So we actually want to consider the case where:

Joe takes a pictures and puts it on flicker under CC-BY-SA
Jane sees the picture and likes it a lot
Jane wants to submit it to nuancier
Jane does not want to create a FAS account
Jane asks Dave to upload the picture taken by Joe for her

??
wowowow, just make it simple possible to submit without FAS account. For
F19 we had already the case that somebody submitted the work of somebody
else with another license. You always question me, why I have to
disqualify
if its not correct licensed eg but in this case the author changed the
license after an conversation.
...
Who should get the badge then? Joe, who took the picture? Jane, who saw and
liked the picture and thought it would make a good wallpaper for Fedora?
Dave
who agreed with Jane and actually did the work?
first of all, no FAS account no page at badges.fp.o or? But the question
was already raised during the last submission period as we had the case.
I
raised already the question remember and we had an discussion about on
IRC
"to crawl the internet for good pictures, is also considered valuable
contribution and a badge should be awarded" not me who said that!
...
And what if Jane gave the idea to Johan that knew someone in the Fedora
community and thus asked Gustave who could submit the artwork and Gustave
too
busy told Johan that Dave should be able to?
I mean, we can probably make it as complex as we want, but at the end I
think
the simpler the better:

author: the person that made the artwork
submiter: the person that submitted the artwork

Note:: To submit atm one still has to be CLA+1 (same restriction as for
voting)
for submission that was never asked for, just for the voting
...
...
 >    for the rules:
 >    * comfortaa is bad to read

 I used it because it was on the mockups, I am fine with using the
 standard
 fonts.

its fine for headlines, but not for content
Fixed
...
 >    * it's unclear that the name for the submission is meant with

that
...
 Would 'Title' be better? (see previous discussion with Kirk)

yes
Fixed
...
 >    * tried to upload a file with the name "test" took endless

long and
...
 >    failed, can we rename them with "name-by-author-size.*" that is
 what has
 >    do be done anyway

 See above.
 Otherwise, I can think of 2 options:
 1) we can split the submission onto two pages but I don't think that
 this is nice.
 2) I add a 'test submission' button that checks if the title is

unique
...
 and
 inform the user if it is not.

the renaming would be easier, somebody might have submitted a file
named
...
"flower" but definitly not flower-by-name.*
Then the titles becomes "Unicorn rocks pandas-by-mizmo"? And we display it
as
such?
isnt there a difference between file name and name?
...
...
 >    * the upload takes way to long, fear we have to do the test

after
...
 the
 >    upload otherwise, somebody with a lot of submissions will

break up
...
 after a
 >    few

 See above.
 The file is uploaded as part of the form, so I cannot check before

if
...
 the data
 submitted is valid or not.

I think the check of sizes take that long, not of the other data. I
think
...
the split of the submission would be nicer, when its done the right
way
...
 >    as the question for the licenses already came up
 >
 >    CC0
 >    CC-BY
 >    CC-BY-SA
 >    DSL
 >    Free Art

 No other licenses are accepted?

that are the licenses from
   http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing#Good_Licenses_3 who makes
sense
...
for pictures
The current wiki pages pretty much says that any licenses from this page is
fine, that's why I went for the text field instead of the drop-down list.
But I'm fine only allowing these 5 licenses if that's what we want
(see below)
please read, there are differences between "content" and "code" licenses
...
...
 >    but here please no autofill! So when dropdown, with an empty

field
...
 and
 >    that should not allowed, so that the submitter has to choose!

 Well CC-BY-SA will be the default (first) option.

please not, simple the submitter will use it without knowing what it
is.
...
We have to make sure he CHOOSE it
Fixed using drop-down list, no default and no license is not a valid
choice :)
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 >    Review:
 >
 >    * for what purpose is the text field on the end?

 Explain why a candidate is rejected

your second submission eg has to be rejected " brand or trademark" ;)
Well that's the information that will be given to the submiter, so it has
to be
something "nice" and self-explanatory, "Images contains a brand" is a valid
reason to reject a submission :)
There are more reasons ;)
br gnokii
...
Pierre
-- 
make me rich, buy my Inkscape book http://is.gd/yq5OD0 ;)

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