Beta wallpaper revision

[Emily Dirsh]

I know it's a bit down-to-the-wire, but I (finally! ;)) finished a new
revision of the beta wallpaper. It's up on the wiki now here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-wallpaper-remix-em-light-rev1.png

I replaced the light spots/lens flare with a light streak/aurora effect.

I don't have the source file uploaded just yet - it's huge! - but I'm
working on it and I'll post a link on the wiki ASAP.

See what you think!

Em

[Misha Shnurapet]

11.09.2010, 07:50, "Emily Dirsh" :
> I know it's a bit down-to-the-wire, but I (finally! ;)) finished a new
> revision of the beta wallpaper. It's up on the wiki now here:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-wallpaper-remix-em-light-rev1.png
>
> I replaced the light spots/lens flare with a light streak/aurora effect.
>
> I don't have the source file uploaded just yet - it's huge! - but I'm
> working on it and I'll post a link on the wiki ASAP.
>
> See what you think!

Hi, Emily.

This one has got good colors! I looove the effect, however, the streak
lines go across the rays, and I feel a little dissonance.

--
Best regards,
Misha Shnurapet, Fedora Project Contributor
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Shnurapet
shnurapet AT fedoraproject.org, GPG: 00217306

[Wolnei]

The left side of wallpaper remember some wallpapers of Windows and Mac.
And to me the wallpaper is confuse, the left and right sides are completely
differents, don't have harmony.

[Martin Sourada]

On Fri, 2010-09-10 at 18:50 -0400, Emily Dirsh wrote:
> I know it's a bit down-to-the-wire, but I (finally! ;)) finished a new
> revision of the beta wallpaper. It's up on the wiki now here:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-wallpaper-remix-em-light-rev1.png
>
> I replaced the light spots/lens flare with a light streak/aurora effect.
>
> I don't have the source file uploaded just yet - it's huge! - but I'm
> working on it and I'll post a link on the wiki ASAP.
>
> See what you think!

Hrm, not bad, but I like this one the best (and I'm already using it):
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-wallpaper-remix-em-dark.png

IMHO the lens flare and darker colours work better than aurora and
lighter colours.

Keep up the awesome work! :)

Martin

[Catalin]

So darkness, i like something more "apple"

2010/9/11 Martin Sourada :
> On Fri, 2010-09-10 at 18:50 -0400, Emily Dirsh wrote:
> > I know it's a bit down-to-the-wire, but I (finally! ;)) finished a new
> > revision of the beta wallpaper. It's up on the wiki now here:
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-wallpaper-remix-em-light-rev1.png
> >
> > I replaced the light spots/lens flare with a light streak/aurora effect.
> >
> > I don't have the source file uploaded just yet - it's huge! - but I'm
> > working on it and I'll post a link on the wiki ASAP.
> >
> > See what you think!
>
> Hrm, not bad, but I like this one the best (and I'm already using it):
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-wallpaper-remix-em-dark.png
>
> IMHO the lens flare and darker colours work better than aurora and
> lighter colours.
>
> Keep up the awesome work! :)
>
> Martin
>
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[Victor Hugo Borges]

I like it, but the left side really look like something kinda Windows
VISTA/SEVEN.

2010/9/11 Cata
> So darkness, i like something more "apple"
>
> 2010/9/11 Martin Sourada :
> > On Fri, 2010-09-10 at 18:50 -0400, Emily Dirsh wrote:
> > > I know it's a bit down-to-the-wire, but I (finally! ;)) finished a new
> > > revision of the beta wallpaper. It's up on the wiki now here:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-wallpaper-remix-em-light-rev1.png
> > > I replaced the light spots/lens flare with a light streak/aurora effect.
> > >
> > > I don't have the source file uploaded just yet - it's huge! - but I'm
> > > working on it and I'll post a link on the wiki ASAP.
> > >
> > > See what you think!
> >
> > Hrm, not bad, but I like this one the best (and I'm already using it):
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-wallpaper-remix-em-dark.png
> >
> > IMHO the lens flare and darker colours work better than aurora and
> > lighter colours.
> >
> > Keep up the awesome work! :)
> >
> > Martin
> >
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> > [e-mail]
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
>
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[Martin Sourada]

On Sat, 2010-09-11 at 10:39 -0300, Victor Hugo Borges wrote:
> I like it, but the left side really look like something kinda Windows
> VISTA/SEVEN.

I always think about it when someone brings this up, but is this
necessarilly a bad thing?

"Bad artists copy. Great artists steal."
  --  Pablo Picasso

(which is one of the reasons why I dislike the standard copyright clause
on creative things like music or art)

Martin

[Victor Hugo Borges]

[...]
"Bad artists copy. Great artists steal."
 --  Pablo Picasso
[...]

It is something to think about, but when you release a product people expect
something very unique.
If that reminds you of one of your rivals at its visual identity, it is not
something pretty good to the user that expects more.
Linux community can show really well its features on unique designs.
The wallpaper is really good and it was really well made (congrats to the
creator), and I dont mind using it (thats for sure), but if we could just
choose something that just dont go in to the flow of Aero, Leopard or Seven;
"Going to a diffrent direction", thats, IMHO, is the best thing to do.

[Catalin]

Agree with Victor : "Linux community can show really well its features
on unique designs."

2010/9/12 Victor Hugo Borges :
> [...]
> "Bad artists copy. Great artists steal."
>  --  Pablo Picasso
> [...]
>
> It is something to think about, but when you release a product people expect
> something very unique.
> If that reminds you of one of your rivals at its visual identity, it is not
> something pretty good to the user that expects more.
> Linux community can show really well its features on unique designs.
> The wallpaper is really good and it was really well made (congrats to the
> creator), and I dont mind using it (thats for sure), but if we could just
> choose something that just dont go in to the flow of Aero, Leopard or Seven;
> "Going to a diffrent direction", thats, IMHO, is the best thing to do.
>
> --
> Atenciosamente, V.H.Borges.
> http://vhborges.tk
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[Nicu Buculei]

On 09/11/2010 09:14 AM, Martin Sourada wrote:
> Hrm, not bad, but I like this one the best (and I'm already using it):
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-wallpaper-remix-em-dark.png

I also like best the colors and composition in this one.
> IMHO the lens flare and darker colours work better than aurora and
> lighter colours.

The flare is, IMO, it's biggest flaw: it looks to me too much like the 
default flare in GIMP.
> Keep up the awesome work! :)

+1

[Alexander Smirnov]

Hi!

2010/9/11 Emily Dirsh
> I know it's a bit down-to-the-wire, but I (finally! ;)) finished a new
> revision of the beta wallpaper. It's up on the wiki now here:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-wallpaper-remix-em-light-rev1.png
>
> I replaced the light spots/lens flare with a light streak/aurora effect.
>
> I don't have the source file uploaded just yet - it's huge! - but I'm
> working on it and I'll post a link on the wiki ASAP.
>
> See what you think!
>
> Em

I like this work. Awesome! Best tuning. Emily it's good job.

Thanks,
Alexander.

[Máirín Duffy]

Hi Emily,

On Fri, 2010-09-10 at 18:50 -0400, Emily Dirsh wrote:
> I know it's a bit down-to-the-wire, but I (finally! ;)) finished a new
> revision of the beta wallpaper. It's up on the wiki now here:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-wallpaper-remix-em-light-rev1.png
>
> I replaced the light spots/lens flare with a light streak/aurora effect.
>
> I don't have the source file uploaded just yet - it's huge! - but I'm
> working on it and I'll post a link on the wiki ASAP.

I think the aurora effect you created is gorgeous, absolutely stunning -
but it just doesn't seem to fit the wallpaper, like others have noted.
(I'd love to see us use it for Fedora 15 though!) I've been using your
latest wallpaper all this weekend and today and it seems the aurora is a
bit out-of-place and the base wallpaper is a bit too simplistic. (It
kind of reminds me a bit of the Fedora 9 wallpaper actually; that one
didn't go over so well :( )

So I poked around a bit with Kyle's original alpha file, adding in some
bits and bobs from your file (mostly I used the base gradient to recolor
the image), smoothing & streaking out the lines on the right background,
and smoothing out where the lines pop out from the center of the object.
Then I imported it into mypaint and used mypaint's brushes to add some
electricity-like effects and then exported the effects as transparent
layers back into gimp.

Do you think this is something we could use for beta? Or is it the wrong
direction?

(source is: http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Resources/Fedora%
20Release%20Themes/F14/Wallpaper/F14-2400x15363.xcf )

~m

[Máirín Duffy]

On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 17:18 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> Do you think this is something we could use for beta? Or is it the wrong
> direction?
>
> (source is: http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Resources/Fedora%
> 20Release%20Themes/F14/Wallpaper/F14-2400x15363.xcf )

It might help to link the actual wallpaper, lol:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-beta-wallpaper-mizmo-3.png

~m

[Alexander Smirnov]

I love it.  Fantastic colors!!! :)

2010/9/14 Máirín Duffy
> On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 17:18 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> > Do you think this is something we could use for beta? Or is it the wrong
> > direction?
> >
> > (source is: http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Resources/Fedora%
> > 20Release%20Themes/F14/Wallpaper/F14-2400x15363.xcf )
>
> It might help to link the actual wallpaper, lol:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-beta-wallpaper-mizmo-3.png
>
> ~m

Alexander.

[Michael Beckwith]

Dang. I am liking this, despite still not being an active help lately.

On 09/13/2010 05:49 PM, Alexander Smirnov wrote:
> I love it.� Fantastic colors!!! :)
>
> 2010/9/14 M�ir�n Duffy <[e-mail]
> >
> On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 17:18 -0400, M�ir�n Duffy wrote:
> > Do you think this is something we could use for beta? Or is it
> the wrong
> > direction?
> >
> > (source is:
> http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Resources/Fedora%
> > 20Release%20Themes/F14/Wallpaper/F14-2400x15363.xcf )
>
> It might help to link the actual wallpaper, lol:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-beta-wallpaper-mizmo-3.png
>
> ~m
>
>
> Alexander.
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I think we can use it. It looks nice. 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alexander Smirnov"  
To: "Fedora Design Team"  
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 6:49:13 PM 
Subject: Re: [Design-team] Beta wallpaper revision

I love it. Fantastic colors!!! :)

2010/9/14 Máirín Duffy < [e-mail] >

On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 17:18 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> Do you think this is something we could use for beta? Or is it the wrong 
> direction?
>
> (source is: http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Resources/Fedora% 
> 20Release%20Themes/F14/Wallpaper/F14-2400x15363.xcf )

It might help to link the actual wallpaper, lol:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-beta-wallpaper-mizmo-3.png

~m

Alexander.

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[Victor Hugo Borges]

Yeah, its pretty good!

2010/9/14
> I think we can use it. It looks nice.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alexander Smirnov" 
> To: "Fedora Design Team" 
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 6:49:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [Design-team] Beta wallpaper revision
>
> I love it.  Fantastic colors!!! :)
>
> 2010/9/14 Máirín Duffy
> > On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 17:18 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> > > Do you think this is something we could use for beta? Or is it the wrong
> > > direction?
> > >
> > > (source is: http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Resources/Fedora%
> > > 20Release%20Themes/F14/Wallpaper/F14-2400x15363.xcf )
> >
> > It might help to link the actual wallpaper, lol:
> >
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-beta-wallpaper-mizmo-3.png
> >
> > ~m
>
> Alexander.
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[Nicu Buculei]

On 09/14/2010 12:27 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 17:18 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> > Do you think this is something we could use for beta? Or is it the wrong
> > direction?
> >
> > (source is: http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Resources/Fedora%
> > 20Release%20Themes/F14/Wallpaper/F14-2400x15363.xcf )
>
> It might help to link the actual wallpaper, lol:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-beta-wallpaper-mizmo-3.png

My main problem here is with the bright areas being too bright so they 
lose details, when this happen with one of my photos I get "damn! I 
borked it with overexposure", change the settings and shoot again (if 
there is something left to shoot, else just delete it).

But I like the concept and would like the image if it is darker and have 
more details visible.

[Martin Sourada]

On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 09:22 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:
> On 09/14/2010 12:27 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> > On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 17:18 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> > > Do you think this is something we could use for beta? Or is it the wrong
> > > direction?
> > >
> > > (source is: http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Resources/Fedora%
> > > 20Release%20Themes/F14/Wallpaper/F14-2400x15363.xcf )
> >
> > It might help to link the actual wallpaper, lol:
> >
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-beta-wallpaper-mizmo-3.png
>
> My main problem here is with the bright areas being too bright so they
> lose details, when this happen with one of my photos I get "damn! I
> borked it with overexposure", change the settings and shoot again (if
> there is something left to shoot, else just delete it).
>
> But I like the concept and would like the image if it is darker and have
> more details visible.

I share exactly the same sentiment and I also fear in its current state
it would not be very good usability wise. As I already said in other
thread, I like the colouring and amount of details of this one:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-wallpaper-remix-em-dark.png

But yeah, I like the concept as well.

Martin

PS: Sorry, if I sent this mail multiple times, evoultion is crashing
for me when sending emails, but I cannot find it in the archives, so
hopefully this is the first time you're receiving it.

[Wolnei]

I like the art ofhttps://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-beta-wallpaper-mizmo-3.png

This wallpaper energize me wtih his energy, since the first time i saw.

Yes. We can use this. It looks nice. 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Martin Sourada"  
To: "Fedora Design Team"  
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 8:10:14 AM 
Subject: Re: [Design-team] Beta wallpaper revision

On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 09:22 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:
> On 09/14/2010 12:27 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> > On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 17:18 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> > > Do you think this is something we could use for beta? Or is it the wrong 
> > > direction?
> > >
> > > (source is: http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Resources/Fedora% 
> > > 20Release%20Themes/F14/Wallpaper/F14-2400x15363.xcf )
> >
> > It might help to link the actual wallpaper, lol:
> >
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-beta-wallpaper-mizmo-3.png
>
> My main problem here is with the bright areas being too bright so they 
> lose details, when this happen with one of my photos I get "damn! I 
> borked it with overexposure", change the settings and shoot again (if 
> there is something left to shoot, else just delete it).
>
> But I like the concept and would like the image if it is darker and have 
> more details visible.

I share exactly the same sentiment and I also fear in its current state 
it would not be very good usability wise. As I already said in other 
thread, I like the colouring and amount of details of this one:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-wallpaper-remix-em-dark.png

But yeah, I like the concept as well.

Martin

PS: Sorry, if I sent this mail multiple times, evoultion is crashing 
for me when sending emails, but I cannot find it in the archives, so 
hopefully this is the first time you're receiving it. 
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[Catalin]

If you get out the object stuff and  just let the flares , will be ok  .

2010/9/14 Martin Sourada :
> On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 09:22 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:
> > On 09/14/2010 12:27 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 17:18 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> > > > Do you think this is something we could use for beta? Or is it the wrong
> > > > direction?
> > > >
> > > > (source is: http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Resources/Fedora%
> > > > 20Release%20Themes/F14/Wallpaper/F14-2400x15363.xcf )
> > >
> > > It might help to link the actual wallpaper, lol:
> > >
> > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-beta-wallpaper-mizmo-3.png
> >
> > My main problem here is with the bright areas being too bright so they
> > lose details, when this happen with one of my photos I get "damn! I
> > borked it with overexposure", change the settings and shoot again (if
> > there is something left to shoot, else just delete it).
> >
> > But I like the concept and would like the image if it is darker and have
> > more details visible.
>
> I share exactly the same sentiment and I also fear in its current state
> it would not be very good usability wise. As I already said in other
> thread, I like the colouring and amount of details of this one:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-wallpaper-remix-em-dark.png
>
> But yeah, I like the concept as well.
>
> Martin
>
> PS: Sorry, if I sent this mail multiple times, evoultion is crashing
> for me when sending emails, but I cannot find it in the archives, so
> hopefully this is the first time you're receiving it.
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[Catalin]

Everyone can imagine how it would look like a shower of sparks without
a lighting effect.
I like the effect of sparks created by mizmo.

2010/9/14 Máirín Duffy :
> Hi Emily,
>
> On Fri, 2010-09-10 at 18:50 -0400, Emily Dirsh wrote:
> > I know it's a bit down-to-the-wire, but I (finally! ;)) finished a new
> > revision of the beta wallpaper. It's up on the wiki now here:
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-wallpaper-remix-em-light-rev1.png
> >
> > I replaced the light spots/lens flare with a light streak/aurora effect.
> >
> > I don't have the source file uploaded just yet - it's huge! - but I'm
> > working on it and I'll post a link on the wiki ASAP.
>
> I think the aurora effect you created is gorgeous, absolutely stunning -
> but it just doesn't seem to fit the wallpaper, like others have noted.
> (I'd love to see us use it for Fedora 15 though!) I've been using your
> latest wallpaper all this weekend and today and it seems the aurora is a
> bit out-of-place and the base wallpaper is a bit too simplistic. (It
> kind of reminds me a bit of the Fedora 9 wallpaper actually; that one
> didn't go over so well :( )
>
> So I poked around a bit with Kyle's original alpha file, adding in some
> bits and bobs from your file (mostly I used the base gradient to recolor
> the image), smoothing & streaking out the lines on the right background,
> and smoothing out where the lines pop out from the center of the object.
> Then I imported it into mypaint and used mypaint's brushes to add some
> electricity-like effects and then exported the effects as transparent
> layers back into gimp.
>
> Do you think this is something we could use for beta? Or is it the wrong
> direction?
>
> (source is: http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Resources/Fedora%
> 20Release%20Themes/F14/Wallpaper/F14-2400x15363.xcf )
>
> ~m
>
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[Emily Dirsh]

Thanks for all the feedback guys! It's really great! :) Taking
everyone's comments into account I made a new! improved! revised
wallpaper. I also did a dark version for Martin. ;)

Here's the links: 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-wallpaper-remix-em-light-rev2.png

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-wallpaper-remix-em-rev2-dark.png

Unfortunately, I didn't get them done in time for the meeting today, or
to get into beta, but I did want to share them with everyone. :)

[Kris Thomsen]

Emily, I loooove! the dark one - but can you try making  something
without the lens-flare? I don't like them :D

// Kris

2010/9/14 Emily Dirsh :
> Thanks for all the feedback guys! It's really great! :) Taking
> everyone's comments into account I made a new! improved! revised
> wallpaper. I also did a dark version for Martin. ;)
>
> Here's the links:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-wallpaper-remix-em-light-rev2.png
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-wallpaper-remix-em-rev2-dark.png
>
> Unfortunately, I didn't get them done in time for the meeting today, or
> to get into beta, but I did want to share them with everyone. :)
>
> design-team mailing list
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[Nicu Buculei]

On 09/15/2010 12:17 AM, Kris Thomsen wrote:
> Emily, I loooove! the dark one - but can you try making  something
> without the lens-flare? I don't like them :D

I am in agreement with Kris, the dark version is beautiful but the flare 
is put of place.

Interesting to see the two approaches based on the same concept, this 
one from Emily very soft and smooth and Mo's proposal, strong and energetic.
> 2010/9/14 Emily Dirsh:
> > Thanks for all the feedback guys! It's really great! :) Taking
> > everyone's comments into account I made a new! improved! revised
> > wallpaper. I also did a dark version for Martin. ;)
> >
> > Here's the links:
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-wallpaper-remix-em-light-rev2.png
> >
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-wallpaper-remix-em-rev2-dark.png
> >
> > Unfortunately, I didn't get them done in time for the meeting today, or
> > to get into beta, but I did want to share them with everyone. :)

[Fabian A. Scherschel]

Wow.... Really great work going on here. I really love Mo's new version and
I think it's nearly perfect but I still think we need something in the
middle of all those emanating rays and sparks. A hole there looks out of
place, IMO.

Fab

On 15 Sep 2010 08:42, "Nicu Buculei"  wrote:
> On 09/15/2010 12:17 AM, Kris Thomsen wrote:
> > Emily, I loooove! the dark one - but can you try making something
> > without the lens-flare? I don't like them :D
>
> I am in agreement with Kris, the dark version is beautiful but the flare
> is put of place.
>
> Interesting to see the two approaches based on the same concept, this
> one from Emily very soft and smooth and Mo's proposal, strong and

energetic.
> > 2010/9/14 Emily Dirsh:
> > > Thanks for all the feedback guys! It's really great! :) Taking
> > > everyone's comments into account I made a new! improved! revised
> > > wallpaper. I also did a dark version for Martin. ;)
> > >
> > > Here's the links:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-wallpaper-remix-em-light-rev2.png
> > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-wallpaper-remix-em-rev2-dark.png
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, I didn't get them done in time for the meeting today, or
> > > to get into beta, but I did want to share them with everyone. :)
>
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[Marc Stewart]

On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 08:27 +0200, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:
> Wow.... Really great work going on here. I really love Mo's new
> version and I think it's nearly perfect but I still think we need
> something in the middle of all those emanating rays and sparks. A hole
> there looks out of place, IMO.

I like the void. I think it fits better with the emergence concept, too.
Emergent properties appear in unexpected ways due to the complex
interactions of a system, and therefore don't appear to have an obvious
source. Consequently, I think a hole provides a better visual metaphor.

But then I don't see it purely as emanating rays; I see solid structures
in there, like looking down on a city full of skyscrapers and
searchlights, or into a kaleidoscope. So, for me, the hole is just
equivalent to the road, or the end of the tube; I don't expect anything
to necessarily be there.

Of course, if someone made a wallpaper that had something in that space,
and it was an improvement, I'd support it—great images trump good
metaphors! But I think adding something just for the sake of filling
that space would actually be a detraction.

Marc

[Fabian A. Scherschel]

I tried to put something in that space in my initial revision. If we keep
the void, I think the emanating rays need to fade into it more gradually.
The way it is now, it kinda draws your eye to the hole and then there's
nothing there...

Fab

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Marc Stewart <
[e-mail]> wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 08:27 +0200, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:
> > Wow.... Really great work going on here. I really love Mo's new
> > version and I think it's nearly perfect but I still think we need
> > something in the middle of all those emanating rays and sparks. A hole
> > there looks out of place, IMO.
>
> I like the void. I think it fits better with the emergence concept, too.
> Emergent properties appear in unexpected ways due to the complex
> interactions of a system, and therefore don't appear to have an obvious
> source. Consequently, I think a hole provides a better visual metaphor.
>
> But then I don't see it purely as emanating rays; I see solid structures
> in there, like looking down on a city full of skyscrapers and
> searchlights, or into a kaleidoscope. So, for me, the hole is just
> equivalent to the road, or the end of the tube; I don't expect anything
> to necessarily be there.
>
> Of course, if someone made a wallpaper that had something in that space,
> and it was an improvement, I'd support it—great images trump good
> metaphors! But I think adding something just for the sake of filling
> that space would actually be a detraction.
>
> Marc
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[Emily Dirsh]

Well, obviously some of us (including me ;)) like having something in
the middle. Personally, I think it is a bit jarring, and visually
unsatisfying to leave it completely empty.

But then again, some of us don't like having something there. So,
keeping that in mind, I managed to work up yet another revision - not to
take away from mo's really nice version, but just to see where this one
takes me ;) - and I tried this time to find a bit of a compromise...
There's something in the middle, but it's not anything definite, and
it's much more subtle than the big starburst/supernova effect I had
before. See what you all think!

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-wallpaper-remix-em-rev2-dark-nosuper...

On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 10:47 +0200, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:
> I tried to put something in that space in my initial revision. If we
> keep the void, I think the emanating rays need to fade into it more
> gradually. The way it is now, it kinda draws your eye to the hole and
> then there's nothing there...
>
> Fab

[Victor Hugo Borges]

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-beta-wallpaper-mizmo-3.png

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-beta-wallpaper-mizmo-3.png
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-wallpaper-remix-em-light-rev2.png

those are my favorites until now, it makes it shinny and tells me that the
system is very clean and ready for me. like saying: "IM DONE!" or getting
done.

2010/9/17 Emily Dirsh
> Well, obviously some of us (including me ;)) like having something in
> the middle. Personally, I think it is a bit jarring, and visually
> unsatisfying to leave it completely empty.
>
> But then again, some of us don't like having something there. So,
> keeping that in mind, I managed to work up yet another revision - not to
> take away from mo's really nice version, but just to see where this one
> takes me ;) - and I tried this time to find a bit of a compromise...
> There's something in the middle, but it's not anything definite, and
> it's much more subtle than the big starburst/supernova effect I had
> before. See what you all think!
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-wallpaper-remix-em-rev2-dark-nosuper...
>
> On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 10:47 +0200, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:
> > I tried to put something in that space in my initial revision. If we
> > keep the void, I think the emanating rays need to fade into it more
> > gradually. The way it is now, it kinda draws your eye to the hole and
> > then there's nothing there...
> >
> > Fab
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[Fabian A. Scherschel]

Emily, I love your new version!
But I also still like that last one from Mo....

Fab

On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Victor Hugo Borges <[e-mail]
> wrote:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-beta-wallpaper-mizmo-3.png
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-beta-wallpaper-mizmo-3.png
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-wallpaper-remix-em-light-rev2.png
>
> those are my favorites until now, it makes it shinny and tells me that the
> system is very clean and ready for me. like saying: "IM DONE!" or getting
> done.
>
> 2010/9/17 Emily Dirsh
>
> Well, obviously some of us (including me ;)) like having something in
> > the middle. Personally, I think it is a bit jarring, and visually
> > unsatisfying to leave it completely empty.
> >
> > But then again, some of us don't like having something there. So,
> > keeping that in mind, I managed to work up yet another revision - not to
> > take away from mo's really nice version, but just to see where this one
> > takes me ;) - and I tried this time to find a bit of a compromise...
> > There's something in the middle, but it's not anything definite, and
> > it's much more subtle than the big starburst/supernova effect I had
> > before. See what you all think!
> >
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-wallpaper-remix-em-rev2-dark-nosuper...
> >
> > On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 10:47 +0200, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:
> > > I tried to put something in that space in my initial revision. If we
> > > keep the void, I think the emanating rays need to fade into it more
> > > gradually. The way it is now, it kinda draws your eye to the hole and
> > > then there's nothing there...
> > >
> > > Fab
> >
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[Paul W. Frields]

I love Emily's new version as well. One of the problems it solves for
me is the overall brightness and high energy of the revision that's on
my desktop now. The crystal shards, graphite shafts, or whatever you
prefer to call them are cool but the high contrast and density of the
image there makes it harder to concentrate on or locate my desktop
icons in that space. Emily's new iteration fixes that completely!

Paul

On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 6:25 AM, Fabian A. Scherschel  wrote:
> Emily, I love your new version!
> But I also still like that last one from Mo....
>
> Fab
>
> On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Victor Hugo Borges
>  wrote:
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-beta-wallpaper-mizmo-3.png
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-wallpaper-remix-em-light-rev2.png
> > those are my favorites until now, it makes it shinny and tells me that the
> > system is very clean and ready for me. like saying: "IM DONE!" or getting
> > done.
> >
> > 2010/9/17 Emily Dirsh
> > > Well, obviously some of us (including me ;)) like having something in
> > > the middle. Personally, I think it is a bit jarring, and visually
> > > unsatisfying to leave it completely empty.
> > >
> > > But then again, some of us don't like having something there. So,
> > > keeping that in mind, I managed to work up yet another revision - not to
> > > take away from mo's really nice version, but just to see where this one
> > > takes me ;) - and I tried this time to find a bit of a compromise...
> > > There's something in the middle, but it's not anything definite, and
> > > it's much more subtle than the big starburst/supernova effect I had
> > > before. See what you all think!
> > >
> > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-wallpaper-remix-em-rev2-dark-nosuper...

[Máirín Duffy]

On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 08:27 +0200, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:
> Wow.... Really great work going on here. I really love Mo's new
> version and I think it's nearly perfect but I still think we need
> something in the middle of all those emanating rays and sparks. A hole
> there looks out of place, IMO.

Here's a couple of revisions towards that end - what do you think?

~m

https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/d/dd/F14-beta-wallpaper-rev1.png

https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/4/40/F14-beta-wallpaper-rev2.png

[Martin Sourada]

On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 12:29 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 08:27 +0200, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:
> > Wow.... Really great work going on here. I really love Mo's new
> > version and I think it's nearly perfect but I still think we need
> > something in the middle of all those emanating rays and sparks. A hole
> > there looks out of place, IMO.
>
> Here's a couple of revisions towards that end - what do you think?
>
> ~m
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/d/dd/F14-beta-wallpaper-rev1.png
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/4/40/F14-beta-wallpaper-rev2.png

Personally, I'd go with rev2 -- rev1 feels too bright and busy. Can you
perhaps try desaturating the blue a little?

Martin

[Nicu Buculei]

On 09/22/2010 10:16 PM, Martin Sourada wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 12:29 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> > Here's a couple of revisions towards that end - what do you think?
> >
> > https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/d/dd/F14-beta-wallpaper-rev1.png
> >
> > https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/4/40/F14-beta-wallpaper-rev2.png
>
> Personally, I'd go with rev2 -- rev1 feels too bright and busy. Can you
> perhaps try desaturating the blue a little?

I am with Martin here, rev2, without the bright spot stealing my 
attention focus and maybe less saturated colors. And then we can say we 
are done.