We (Jon McCann and myself, with some input from others) have been
working on a design for a new user management tool, with the goal of
coming up with something better than the current trias of
system-config-users, gnome-about-me and gdmsetup.
The design is not finalized, you can see the current state of affairs
(I really wanted to put this on the wiki, but all I could only get proxy
errors when trying to do so).
Comments are welcome. Please note the section on target audience and use
What's the difference actually supposed to be? Whatever it is certainly
some programs are not following the idea probably because the
distinction doesn't seem to be documented anywhere.
gconf-editor is in system tools
yumex and smart is in system tools
gpk-application is in administration
i have updated FC8 at may, 14.
After that my network was broken.
eth0 was up but there was no proper setup
of the route.
After /etc/init.d/network restart
everything was fine (since the next reboot).
It seems to me that NetworkManager Daemon
make worse things?
Is this a new daemon?
I have a few ideas that IMO would make Fedora more usable as a general
desktop and developer platform:
1. have gnome-terminal shortcut on gnome panel (as firefox and evolution)
2. have gnome clipboard manager installed by default (glipper gnome applet)
3. have /usr/sbin and /sbin in PATH for regular users
1. because gnome-terminal is the second most used  application on
gnome desktop and this would make it more accessible for users.
2. because any desktop needs a good clipboard manager, it enhances
3. I personally need it only for some commands - like /sbin/ifconfig
and /sbin/iwconfig are there any down sides to putting new /sbin and
/usr/sbin in every users PATH variable? What do you think is this a
good or bad idea?
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I spent some time today running through the same things I did 3 weeks
ago with a new set of packages we've built for Fedora 9 (maybe
the final set), and things in general were much stabler and more
polished. Thanks for the hard work everybody!
I did, of course, see some things I didn't notice on the last run
* Application pages are badly screwed up at the moment because of
wrong CSS (Colin committed some fixes and is working testing)
Stuff I didn't notice before
* The Save/Cancel options when editing fields on
http://online.gnome.org/accounts have some issues:
* We are properly handling launching the Mugshot client
or not on login, but it would be nice to do it
dynamically if the user enables Mugshot through the
* The newly added "Configure IM Accounts" link doesn't
work if Pidgin is already running:
* On Fedora 9 (and on all GNOME-2.22?) the dialog
you get when you select "Log out or Shutdown..."
only allows you to log out, not to shut down.
* In a newly created account, the contents of the
application browser was all messed up:
Old stuff verified fixed
* When Firefox was started, it came up with two tabs, both with the
Fedora start page
** Bigboard was configured to use the default "Milky" theme rather than
the Fedora theme.
* Mugshot stacker was started (because it was installed on the system)
and showed a stack with an initial share about "setup your account"
even though I hadn't enabled Mugshot.
* It seemed a little less than obvious that you should click on
the "Enable Online Desktop" link to proceed, especially with the
browser window sitting there. There wasn't a clear flow that
enabling the online desktop was the *first* step.
** The desktop data engine didn't pick up my login until I manually
restarted it. I think this was because I didn't have a Firefox
profile at all (or even a .mozilla dir) when I started the
desktop-data-engine, so it couldn't establish an inotify watch.
** A "GNOME Online" person appeared in the People stock.
* There was no obvious way to add more people to the people stock.
If there are no online.g.o contacts, a minimal thing would be to
have a button to launch Pidgin.
** People stock slideouts got a bright red header in the Milky theme
(theme bug causing the header not to be drawn themed.)
* Sidebar Preferences should put a border around the preview images -
they look funny blending into the background.
* Apps stock should be labelled "Applications" not "Apps"?
** I got fooled when trying to add a stock to the sidebar by
the "Add to sidebar" button next to the google gadget link entry.
Unless we fix the google gadget stuff very soon, we should just
remove it from the F9 packages.
** Logging into GMail in mail stock:
- Should show Connecting... between the point where you apply
a new password and it succeeds or fails
- In the case of failure, should be button or link to get
back to the point of logging in again, instead of having
to navigate back through sidebar preferences.
* In the Apps browser, selecting an application (which shows the
profile to the left) should also highlight the selected app,
since otherwise you don't feel you have good click-feedback.
Same for the People browser