I just received a phone call from Stef Bon, a fellow Dutchman who's been
working on a Fuse technology based module to make it easier, and more
transparent, to a user, to mount, navigate and use pluggable storage devices
and network resources like Samba shares.
While Stef is in a better position to describe the project, I'm going to take
a stab at providing a summary. Since Stef wrote a bunch of good documentation
on his project, please allow me to refer you to those pages:
In short, this type of technology could move the user's desktop experience
forward a great deal as far as navigation experience goes.
For instance, and this is just one of many example scenarios listed in the
documentation, creating a "Shared Folder" for documents and files that all
users on a system can use is a little more difficult on Linux still then it is
on, say, a Windows XP Home edition workstation.
Very much the same goes for navigation to a freshly (automatically) mounted
USB thumb drive, that simply is not mounted within the user's home directory,
but instead causes the user to have to navigate through system folders (e.g.
/media/XXX/), even though a "1.8 GiB Filesystem" might show up in "Places" -if
you use that navigation pane.
Stef would love to increase awareness about his project, and would appreciate
some constructive feedback. I'm glad to be able to make the introductions. I
think Stef's project has a very high potential, and so, if you're interested,
Stef would also appreciate some help in terms of further development.
Jeroen van Meeuwen
----- "Yaakov Nemoy" <loupgaroublond(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I can definitely understand why you want to do things this way. Given
> alot of the 'discussion' going on around several mailing lists, i
> think that in order to solve the problems you're looking to solve,
> it's probably more efficient to do it this way. That said, it seems
> go completely against what we talk about about how open source
> development should be done as much in the open as possible. I don't
> mean to be critical of you, or that you're willing to Get Shit Done
> (tm), but it really makes me wonder that if you have to resort to
> internal to RH development to avoid having your time grossly wasted,
> what are we doing wrong in Fedora in general.
This is definitely not a RH-only thing. I just knew that I would get the answers I needed from the people I mailed.
If you must know, I mailed Lennart (for Avahi), Dan Williams (for NetworkManager), Thomas Woerner (system-config-firewall maintainer), the man responsible for security policies in RHEL (so we get buy-in, and engineering time if necessary), and a few others.
I knew that those people would end up being the ones doing the work, if we could agree on something, so it's only fair that they are included in the discussions, and I didn't want people to tell me what colour the shed should be painted.
To be honest, this is also a harder discussion than some others for the desktop, because the interaction and security needs are tightly bound together (I'm trying to get less popups and dialogues, but security guys want everything vouched for by the user), so we're trying to find technical ways to make the UI better, which is certainly not the best way to go about things.
Right now, it's mostly been quite uninteresting, but I'll make sure to drop a mail on fedora-devel if and when we want to make the changes.
> Well, it might come as a surprise to some, but actually Ubuntu is not
> just a bunch of imbiciles, and it kinda annoys me that whenever
> something comes from or is done in Ubuntu, people saya: "well, if Ubuntu
> does it, then it is questionnable because they don't know what they do
> and their distro is only used by noobs".
> Well, that's simply bullshit.
I don't see why are you so excited with that Ubuntu.
Let me guess - because it is leading the linux rating - so what.
May I tell you a story.
Do you know who is the absolute champion in the history of survival of the living creatures? Try to guess.
It is not the Jaguar (the fastest running), it is not the eagle (the highest flying), it is not even the crocodile (the most ferocious). It is ... the turtle.
200 million years history record of survival (vs. 70 million of the crocodile).
Gentlemen, this is not a 'Nobel price' in survival strategy - it is a 'Masterpiece of the Nobel prices' from any point of view and for any age.
And are you interested to know how it is doing it ?!
In is uninteresting to its enemies.
It has protection shield with it all the time.
It has a long life cycle (over 300 years).
It changes only when it is forced by the circumstances to do so.
It diversifies its egss.
and so on ...
It has managed to survive even vs. humans (by becoming their pet).
The idea is that it is interesting to comment Ubuntu (and not only Ubuntu, what about MS as well) - but to comment the things by making analyses and inferences - not emotional estimates and paralogics. Anyway.
----- "Behdad Esfahbod" <behdad(a)behdad.org> wrote:
> Can someone tell me again, how exactly does Droid break Japanese
I just tested with latest f13 - and it looks fixed to me now
thanks to all the .conf improvements we made recently to the fonts.
Current F12 also looks ok now to me from brief testing.
I added a comment to the bug and moved it to MODIFIED. :)
>> Things I know or are my opinions as a designer:
>> - Deja Vu Sans is a
>> very vide font, and in many cases causes "ugly" ui because of the
>> amount of space it consumes. Screen space is at a premium and this
>> font makes the issue worse by being one of the widest out there. This
>> is a big pain point in places like dialogs and skinny window titles. -
>> Deja Vu Sans is known to be tricky to render on screen - some letters
>> just have awkward spacing and widths no matter what you do (bowls on
>> d's seem compressed, etc). I blogged about this as it relates to
> Well, "ugly" is very subjective here (apart from cases where there are
> obvious rendering glitches, etc.). Just like Times is perfect font for
> newspapers, where there are usually many rather thin columns, while it's
> a complete waste to use it on literature where wide fonts look much
> better or nature sciences texts (where computer modern family of fonts
> is clearly one of the best) --- what looks very well on PDA/mobile
> phones displays (e.g. Droid) would probably not look as good on wide
> screens where you clearly have "space to waste" in horizontal direction
> but not in vertical.
I am not sure Deja Vu is ugly at all. If you reduce the fond size it looks even beautiful.
Maybe it is not well calibrated in relation to the remaining fonts we are accustomed to use.
P.S. It would be interesting to know what is the font used in printing most of the rare books - collection series, for example.
> - Deja Vu Sans is a very wide font, and in many cases causes "ugly" ui
because of the > amount of space it consumes. Screen space is at a
premium and this font makes the
> issue worse by being one of the widest
out there. This is a big pain point in places like
> dialogues and skinny
You may solve the problem by installing the MS compatible TTFs, or any other TTFs found on the Net (for MS TTFs you may use for example the package):
Times New Roman (used to print Times more than a century ago) is very good in terms of letter width and readability.
So and so you are making a brainstorm - I have a proposal in connection with this.
Everybody willing to take part (no matter whether developer, or user or both) to write an essay (not more than one page) on the theme: The Linux Dostro of my Dreams.
I can right away write mine:
The DISTRO OF MY DREAMS
1. The OS distro should be fast and easy to install. When I installed for the first time Fedora (10) I was impressed by the speed it was making the installation and the settings.
2. The OS distro should be accessible
We all know that neither MS DOS nor Windows are original developments of MS, by if you ask at random any one worldwide who is the 'original' developer of the above said the answer is obvious. It doesn't matter how good or how best your OS is, all it matters is what people think about it. (In the interest of truth some people being visionaries see things in places others don't see too much).
3. The OS should be reliable with acceptable level of security.
4. The OS should be fast enough of not wasting my time when I work on it.
It should be able to work well both with the Internet browser and the Applications I am using in my dayly tasks.
5. It should be good looking - Design, general outlook, etc. I have installed Ubuntu dostro, but I am a 'water sign' and obviously I am not impressed by the things the 'fire sign' is fond of. And I don't care how good it may be 'at low level'.
6. It should be compatible with the Applications the people around me are using (at least at user file level - PDF, DOC, JPG, TMX etc.).
7. It should be compatible with the nearest older versions of my favourite programs (in terms of which I have acquired skills and I am not willing to learn new skills to do old things, unless I am forced by the circumstances to do so).
8. It should not change (at least at top level) too often.
9. It should have good maintenance.
When somebody makes improvements in any of the said directions - I call this upgrade.
When a new OS downgrades my skills in using the computer - I don't know how to call this. (The idea is that the development of new editors, and tools, image processing and integrated development environments of any kind bear risks of downgrading temporarily the skills of the users in their daily tasks (and of the developers BTW)).
The reason I choose Linux is because I was sick with the viruses and antivirus structures and when I switching on my computer of not knowing whether it will 'start the engine' or not.
It is obvious that an OS could not be optimised for any purpose and for any user and for any computer platform - so maybe it is high time it starts getting specialised ad hoc for each particular case.
Hoping of not wasting your time,
i did a desktop-file-validate on all .desktop files in the current
rawhide distro (note rpmfusion too).
here is the result of only the errors grepped from a complete check:
p.s. if someone needs help fixing an entry ask away.