GTK+3 advisiblity for F14?
by Adam Williamson
Hi, folks. Just a question - since GNOME 3 is being delayed and won't
ship in F14, does it make sense to have a few apps (but not many) ported
to GTK+ 3 for F14? I can see it causing more trouble along the lines of
the gnome-python2-desktop package. Would it be better to move them back
to GTK+ 2 and postpone porting to GTK+ 3 until F15? What's the plan in
general for backing off from 2.90.x versions of GNOME bits? Thanks!
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13 years, 2 months
gnome-python2-desktop needs various porting to GNOME / GTK+ 3
by Adam Williamson
Hi, folks. I'm helping dmalcolm with the Python 2.7 rebuild at the
moment. gnome-python2-desktop is failing to build for reasons which have
nothing to do with Python 2.7 and everything to do with GTK+ 3 and GNOME
3.
It has modules for Brasero and Evince, both of which have now been
ported to GTK+ 3. Trying to build gnome-python2-desktop with these
modules enabled fails due to various changes between GTK+2 and GTK+3.
g-p2-d also has gnome media profiles support: gnome-media-profiles has
also been made into a new gnome-media-profiles-3.0 version which
requires GTK+3 according to its pkgconfig file, so I suspect
gnome-python2-desktop will need adjusting for that too.
For now I'm going to send David a build with the Brasero and Evince
modules disabled and the gnome-media-profiles support also disabled.
This will break a couple of apps - pybackpack and sugar-read - but
that's presumably preferable to having gnome-python2-desktop broken
entirely (and hence also gnome-applets). Obviously, though, this should
be fixed properly - upstream, of course.
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13 years, 2 months
New wallpapers for Fedora 14
by Martin Sourada
Hi,
I've just submitted a package with new backgrounds [1] for laughlin
release of fedora. Would be nice if you could switch to them in our
default installation as we (fedora design team) would like to have them
in F14 Alpha. Thanks.
For gnome, you'd want to require laughlin-backgrounds-gnome (or its
virtual provides system-backgrounds-gnome), for kde it's
laughlin-backgrounds-kde (or its virtual provides
system-backgrounds-kde) and for the desktop-backgrounds-compat (IIRC
this is for lxde and xfce), you'll want to change the symlinks to point
to pictures in laughlin-backgrounds-single.
I hope I haven't forgot to send this to anyone involved or sent the mail
to wrong person (if so, please accept my apology)...
Thanks,
Martin
References:
[1]
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/goddard-backgrounds-13.0.0-2.fc14...
13 years, 2 months
Re: desktop Digest, Vol 77, Issue 16
by Hristo Petkov
Hi,
what do you mean by 'that wouldn't be good in some cases'.
Try for example to remove the hunspell package (without doing it) to see what will happen with the OS.
System -> Administration -> Add/Remove Software
Write in the checkbox: hinspell
Uncheck the English hunspell package and proceed to see how many packages are prepared to be removed from the system ... and don't forget to press 'cancel' of the operation for it will become 'interesting'.
Regards
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From: Bruno Wolff III <bruno(a)wolff.to>
Subject: Re: The 'ingenious ideas' about YUM
To: Adam Williamson <awilliam(a)redhat.com>
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Adam Williamson <awilliam(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
> 'post' is a section of a kickstart file - the type of file used for
> building Fedora live CDs. It comes after the main operation of building
> the CD is complete. Bruno simply meant that the 'yum remove somepackage'
> operation in the 'post' section of the Fedora live kickstart should be
> removed, he was not suggesting any change to the yum utility itself.
Thanks.
For example if another spin based off the livecd desktop spin actually uses
perl, then removing perl in post would have bad effects.
Though it seems the yum command was failing on the nightly compose builder,
so that command wasn't having any significant effect on those builds in
any case. But perhaps building in a different environment might have caused
it to actually remove packages during the post install phase and that wouldn't
be good in some cases.
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13 years, 2 months
RE: The 'ingenious ideas' about YUM
by Hristo Petkov
Hi,
RE:
> Removing packages in post can break including the livecd-desktop ks in
> other ks (which is a recommend practice) if the other ks needs any of
> the removed packages.
> The yum remove in post should be removed.
I am not sure what exactly 'removing packages in post can break' should mean, but removing 'remove' in YUM is not an idea of first brilliance.
At the beginning when I started using Fedora I really had some problems when removing packages but there is no problem when one installs 'orthogonal' packages (not sharing libraries, dictionaries, inference engines, imported objects, etc.).
Thus for example you can install and uninstall Adobe Reader as much as you like and nothing will happen to the OS.
Regards
13 years, 2 months
livecd-desktop.ks improperly does a yum remove in post
by Bruno Wolff III
Removing packages in post can break including the livecd-desktop ks in
other ks (which is a recommend practice) if the other ks needs any of
the removed packages.
The yum remove in post should be removed.
The downside to doing it now is that the alpha cd image may end up being
oversized. But it's possible that other spins might not incluide all of their
intended packages if this isn't reverted now.
The hope is that by GA syslinux will be fixed not to depend on perl so that
this doesn't end up being a problem.
13 years, 2 months
how to disable the Hibernate and Suspend buttons in F13 ?
by Nelson Strother
In the presence of long-lasting bugs such as:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=556560
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=612757
for some systems with some application loads it would be prudent to
reduce the risk of memory corruption leading to file corruption
(leading to re-install or restoration from backups) by disabling the
Hibernate and Suspend buttons in e.g. Gnome. For older versions
of Fedora, one can find clues for this in e.g.:
http://faq.aslab.com/index.php?sid=43997&lang=en&action=artikel&cat=58&id...
These directions are not directly applicable to F13 (i.e. the checkboxen
for can_hibernate and can_suspend no longer appear within the general
group for apps, gnome-power-manager within gconf-editor. The most
tempting nearby possibility within:
Applications, System Tools, Configuration Editor
is the apps, gnome-power-manager, buttons group. But changing most of
these values to "nothing" changes neither the visibility of said
command buttons nor changes the behavior when one is selected. I.e.
Suspend or Hibernate will still cause filesystem corruption on
some systems.
Configuration Editor 2.30.0
Is there some other user-accessible configuration to prevent Suspend and
Hibernate from being selected? How about for users of non-Gnome
desktops? Bugzilla time?
Cheers,
Nelson
13 years, 2 months
gnome-power-preferences and gnome-volume-control gone in Rawhide?
by Adam Williamson
Hey, folks. gnome-power-preferences seems to have disappeared with
gnome-power-manager 2.31, as does gnome-volume-control with gnome-media
2.31. Is there some kind of replacement plan for these?
(also, looks like Rhythmbox needs a rebuild for the gnome-media update).
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