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Help with talking points
by Paul W. Frields 18 Aug '10

18 Aug '10

Ryan Rix issued a call for talking points here (and elsewhere): http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/marketing/2010-July/013289.html The feature list is somewhat devoid of user-centric features. We know that GNOME 3.0 will not be part of the Fedora 14 release, since it's been deferred until March 2011. I would guess that there will be a separate GNOME 2.32, and that although it may not contain an enormous slew of new user-centric features, it will have some significant improvements and changes. Can anyone summarize some of those for the list, or point us to a URL? -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ Where open source multiplies: http://opensource.com

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GTK+3 advisiblity for F14?
by Adam Williamson 03 Aug '10

03 Aug '10

Hi, folks. Just a question - since GNOME 3 is being delayed and won't ship in F14, does it make sense to have a few apps (but not many) ported to GTK+ 3 for F14? I can see it causing more trouble along the lines of the gnome-python2-desktop package. Would it be better to move them back to GTK+ 2 and postpone porting to GTK+ 3 until F15? What's the plan in general for backing off from 2.90.x versions of GNOME bits? Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net

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gnome-python2-desktop needs various porting to GNOME / GTK+ 3
by Adam Williamson 02 Aug '10

02 Aug '10

Hi, folks. I'm helping dmalcolm with the Python 2.7 rebuild at the moment. gnome-python2-desktop is failing to build for reasons which have nothing to do with Python 2.7 and everything to do with GTK+ 3 and GNOME 3. It has modules for Brasero and Evince, both of which have now been ported to GTK+ 3. Trying to build gnome-python2-desktop with these modules enabled fails due to various changes between GTK+2 and GTK+3. g-p2-d also has gnome media profiles support: gnome-media-profiles has also been made into a new gnome-media-profiles-3.0 version which requires GTK+3 according to its pkgconfig file, so I suspect gnome-python2-desktop will need adjusting for that too. For now I'm going to send David a build with the Brasero and Evince modules disabled and the gnome-media-profiles support also disabled. This will break a couple of apps - pybackpack and sugar-read - but that's presumably preferable to having gnome-python2-desktop broken entirely (and hence also gnome-applets). Obviously, though, this should be fixed properly - upstream, of course. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net

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New wallpapers for Fedora 14
by Martin Sourada 30 Jul '10

30 Jul '10

Hi, I've just submitted a package with new backgrounds [1] for laughlin release of fedora. Would be nice if you could switch to them in our default installation as we (fedora design team) would like to have them in F14 Alpha. Thanks. For gnome, you'd want to require laughlin-backgrounds-gnome (or its virtual provides system-backgrounds-gnome), for kde it's laughlin-backgrounds-kde (or its virtual provides system-backgrounds-kde) and for the desktop-backgrounds-compat (IIRC this is for lxde and xfce), you'll want to change the symlinks to point to pictures in laughlin-backgrounds-single. I hope I haven't forgot to send this to anyone involved or sent the mail to wrong person (if so, please accept my apology)... Thanks, Martin References: [1] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/goddard-backgrounds-13.0.0-2.fc14,l…

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Re: desktop Digest, Vol 77, Issue 16
by Hristo Petkov 27 Jul '10

27 Jul '10

Hi, what do you mean by 'that wouldn't be good in some cases'. Try for example to remove the hunspell package (without doing it) to see what will happen with the OS. System -> Administration -> Add/Remove Software Write in the checkbox: hinspell Uncheck the English hunspell package and proceed to see how many packages are prepared to be removed from the system ... and don't forget to press 'cancel' of the operation for it will become 'interesting'. Regards --- On Tue, 7/27/10, desktop-request(a)lists.fedoraproject.org <desktop-request(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: From: desktop-request(a)lists.fedoraproject.org <desktop-request(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> Subject: desktop Digest, Vol 77, Issue 16 To: desktop(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Date: Tuesday, July 27, 2010, 12:00 PM Send desktop mailing list submissions to desktop(a)lists.fedoraproject.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to desktop-request(a)lists.fedoraproject.org You can reach the person managing the list at desktop-owner(a)lists.fedoraproject.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of desktop digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Aditya Patawari wants to stay in touch on LinkedIn (Aditya Patawari) 2. Re: The 'ingenious ideas' about YUM (Bruno Wolff III) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:16:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Aditya Patawari <aditya(a)adityapatawari.com> Subject: Aditya Patawari wants to stay in touch on LinkedIn To: Francisco Estremera <fedora-desktop-list(a)redhat.com> Message-ID: <1901977642.17547445.1280160968207.JavaMail.app(a)ech3-cdn12.prod> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" LinkedIn ------------Aditya Patawari requested to add you as a connection on LinkedIn: ------------------------------------------ Francisco, I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. - Aditya Patawari Accept invitation from Aditya Patawari http://www.linkedin.com/e/10a2e2-gc3iscuk-6v/XMbpOaUPh1O-nXglGgB10t6Ps4HHzF… View invitation from Aditya Patawari http://www.linkedin.com/e/10a2e2-gc3iscuk-6v/XMbpOaUPh1O-nXglGgB10t6Ps4HHzF… ------------------------------------------ DID YOU KNOW your LinkedIn profile helps you control your public image when people search for you? Setting your profile as public means your LinkedIn profile will come up when people enter your name in leading search engines. Take control of your image! http://www.linkedin.com/e/10a2e2-gc3iscuk-6v/ewp/inv-22/ ------ (c) 2010, LinkedIn Corporation -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/desktop/attachments/20100726/22cb8… ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 12:34:24 -0500 From: Bruno Wolff III <bruno(a)wolff.to> Subject: Re: The 'ingenious ideas' about YUM To: Adam Williamson <awilliam(a)redhat.com> Cc: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop <desktop(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <20100726173424.GA2460(a)wolff.to> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 18:06:27 -0700, Adam Williamson <awilliam(a)redhat.com> wrote: > > 'post' is a section of a kickstart file - the type of file used for > building Fedora live CDs. It comes after the main operation of building > the CD is complete. Bruno simply meant that the 'yum remove somepackage' > operation in the 'post' section of the Fedora live kickstart should be > removed, he was not suggesting any change to the yum utility itself. Thanks. For example if another spin based off the livecd desktop spin actually uses perl, then removing perl in post would have bad effects. Though it seems the yum command was failing on the nightly compose builder, so that command wasn't having any significant effect on those builds in any case. But perhaps building in a different environment might have caused it to actually remove packages during the post install phase and that wouldn't be good in some cases. ------------------------------ -- desktop mailing list desktop(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop End of desktop Digest, Vol 77, Issue 16 ***************************************

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RE: The 'ingenious ideas' about YUM
by Hristo Petkov 26 Jul '10

26 Jul '10

Hi, RE: > Removing packages in post can break including the livecd-desktop ks in > other ks (which is a recommend practice) if the other ks needs any of > the removed packages. > The yum remove in post should be removed. I am not sure what exactly 'removing packages in post can break' should mean, but removing 'remove' in YUM is not an idea of first brilliance. At the beginning when I started using Fedora I really had some problems when removing packages but there is no problem when one installs 'orthogonal' packages (not sharing libraries, dictionaries, inference engines, imported objects, etc.). Thus for example you can install and uninstall Adobe Reader as much as you like and nothing will happen to the OS. Regards

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Aditya Patawari wants to stay in touch on LinkedIn
by Aditya Patawari 26 Jul '10

26 Jul '10

LinkedIn ------------Aditya Patawari requested to add you as a connection on LinkedIn: ------------------------------------------ Francisco, I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. - Aditya Patawari Accept invitation from Aditya Patawari http://www.linkedin.com/e/10a2e2-gc3iscuk-6v/XMbpOaUPh1O-nXglGgB10t6Ps4HHzF… View invitation from Aditya Patawari http://www.linkedin.com/e/10a2e2-gc3iscuk-6v/XMbpOaUPh1O-nXglGgB10t6Ps4HHzF… ------------------------------------------ DID YOU KNOW your LinkedIn profile helps you control your public image when people search for you? Setting your profile as public means your LinkedIn profile will come up when people enter your name in leading search engines. Take control of your image! http://www.linkedin.com/e/10a2e2-gc3iscuk-6v/ewp/inv-22/ ------ (c) 2010, LinkedIn Corporation

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livecd-desktop.ks improperly does a yum remove in post
by Bruno Wolff III 23 Jul '10

23 Jul '10

Removing packages in post can break including the livecd-desktop ks in other ks (which is a recommend practice) if the other ks needs any of the removed packages. The yum remove in post should be removed. The downside to doing it now is that the alpha cd image may end up being oversized. But it's possible that other spins might not incluide all of their intended packages if this isn't reverted now. The hope is that by GA syslinux will be fixed not to depend on perl so that this doesn't end up being a problem.

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how to disable the Hibernate and Suspend buttons in F13 ?
by Nelson Strother 21 Jul '10

21 Jul '10

In the presence of long-lasting bugs such as: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=556560 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=612757 for some systems with some application loads it would be prudent to reduce the risk of memory corruption leading to file corruption (leading to re-install or restoration from backups) by disabling the Hibernate and Suspend buttons in e.g. Gnome. For older versions of Fedora, one can find clues for this in e.g.: http://faq.aslab.com/index.php?sid=43997&lang=en&action=artikel&cat=58&id=1… These directions are not directly applicable to F13 (i.e. the checkboxen for can_hibernate and can_suspend no longer appear within the general group for apps, gnome-power-manager within gconf-editor. The most tempting nearby possibility within: Applications, System Tools, Configuration Editor is the apps, gnome-power-manager, buttons group. But changing most of these values to "nothing" changes neither the visibility of said command buttons nor changes the behavior when one is selected. I.e. Suspend or Hibernate will still cause filesystem corruption on some systems. Configuration Editor 2.30.0 Is there some other user-accessible configuration to prevent Suspend and Hibernate from being selected? How about for users of non-Gnome desktops? Bugzilla time? Cheers, Nelson

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gnome-power-preferences and gnome-volume-control gone in Rawhide?
by Adam Williamson 18 Jul '10

18 Jul '10

Hey, folks. gnome-power-preferences seems to have disappeared with gnome-power-manager 2.31, as does gnome-volume-control with gnome-media 2.31. Is there some kind of replacement plan for these? (also, looks like Rhythmbox needs a rebuild for the gnome-media update). -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net

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Compiling against gtk2
by Peter Robinson 17 Jul '10

17 Jul '10

Hi All, I'm having trouble compiling things against gtk2 due to the move of the includes. It seems to affect at least libnotify and gdk-pixbuf and anything that links against them. As well as includes within gtk2 itself. I filed a bug (originally against gdk-pixbuf but moved to gtk2 as it seems to have the problem, I'm not sure the best way to fix this but its causing me problems all over rawhide. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=610839 Cheers, Peter

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What ever happen to current locale in Gnome terminal?
by Jóhann B. Guðmundsson 15 Jul '10

15 Jul '10

There used to be a setting in Gnome Terminal ( Terminal --> Set Character Encoding --> Available Encoding --> Current Locale ) what ever happen to it or should I say why was it removed? Bug ? JBG

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Re: desktop Digest, Vol 77, Issue 6
by Hristo Petkov 13 Jul '10

13 Jul '10

Hi Guys, RE: The Desktop I have a question which I don't dare to ask. What is the idea of making things that have already been done around the world instead of pulling out the f4l (flash for linux) project from 'ground zero' where it is 'mulled for years on end'. Regards --- On Tue, 7/13/10, desktop-request(a)lists.fedoraproject.org <desktop-request(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: From: desktop-request(a)lists.fedoraproject.org <desktop-request(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> Subject: desktop Digest, Vol 77, Issue 6 To: desktop(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Date: Tuesday, July 13, 2010, 12:00 PM Send desktop mailing list submissions to desktop(a)lists.fedoraproject.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to desktop-request(a)lists.fedoraproject.org You can reach the person managing the list at desktop-owner(a)lists.fedoraproject.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of desktop digest..." Today's Topics: 1. F14 plans, test days? (Adam Williamson) 2. Re: F14 plans, test days? (pbrobinson(a)gmail.com) 3. Re: F14 plans, test days? (Matthias Clasen) 4. Re: some help needed (Matthias Clasen) 5. Two new applications for review (Matthias Clasen) 6. Re: some help needed (Ankur Sinha) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 12:07:13 -0700 From: Adam Williamson <awilliam(a)redhat.com> Subject: F14 plans, test days? To: desktop(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Message-ID: <1278961633.28838.0.camel(a)adam.local.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, folks. From a QA angle, I'm just wondering - what's the big desktop plans for F14? Are we going to be rolling out GNOME 2.30 / 3.0 with this release? Are there any particular areas where it'd be good to have a Test Day, or could we even take a Test Week to focus on shiny new GNOME stuff like GNOME Shell? Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 20:30:58 +0100 From: "pbrobinson(a)gmail.com" <pbrobinson(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: F14 plans, test days? To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop <desktop(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <AANLkTil1JxXL9I0EZSfw4tlO6XHgaamsUinAHB0UoDZO(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam(a)redhat.com> wrote: > Hi, folks. From a QA angle, I'm just wondering - what's the big desktop > plans for F14? Are we going to be rolling out GNOME 2.30 / 3.0 with this > release? Are there any particular areas where it'd be good to have a > Test Day, or could we even take a Test Week to focus on shiny new GNOME > stuff like GNOME Shell? I was wondering about the state of what was planned for the various desktops. I've not seen features for the latest GNOME/KDE/LXDE/XFCE and I presume most of those would have new major releases out. Peter ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 21:00:34 -0400 From: Matthias Clasen <mclasen(a)redhat.com> Subject: Re: F14 plans, test days? To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop <desktop(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1278982834.2520.6.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Mon, 2010-07-12 at 20:30 +0100, pbrobinson(a)gmail.com wrote: > On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam(a)redhat.com> wrote: > > Hi, folks. From a QA angle, I'm just wondering - what's the big desktop > > plans for F14? Are we going to be rolling out GNOME 2.30 / 3.0 with this > > release? Are there any particular areas where it'd be good to have a > > Test Day, or could we even take a Test Week to focus on shiny new GNOME > > stuff like GNOME Shell? > > I was wondering about the state of what was planned for the various > desktops. I've not seen features for the latest GNOME/KDE/LXDE/XFCE > and I presume most of those would have new major releases out. I have been using https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Gnome3 to track what needs doing for GNOME, but I don't really have the resources to do a great job on the Fedora side of this. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 22:36:17 -0400 From: Matthias Clasen <mclasen(a)redhat.com> Subject: Re: some help needed To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop <desktop(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> Cc: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop <fedora-desktop-list(a)redhat.com> Message-ID: <1278988577.2520.10.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 09:49 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > Hey, I am trying to get GNOME 2.31.4 into rawhide, and could use some > help. > > There are some reviews that need to happen: > > 609175 gtksourceview3 (this blocks building gedit against gtk3) > 602279 LibRaw (this blocks building shotwell 0.6) > > And there are some more libraries that we need to pacakge > parallel-installable gtk3 versions for: > > unique3 > vte3 > webkitgtk3 > Thankfully, we have LibRaw, and unique taken care of, and shotwell 0.6.1 is in rawhide now. But I still need review for 609175 gtksourceview3 611010 webkitgtk3 and there is an increasing number of updates that blocks on the (non-)availability of these 2 libraries: yelp, devhelp, gedit, seed, gnome-games,... Matthias ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 00:54:51 -0400 From: Matthias Clasen <mclasen(a)redhat.com> Subject: Two new applications for review To: fedora-desktop-list(a)redhat.com Message-ID: <1278996891.2520.12.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I've put together quick packages for fillmore/lombard here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613879 These are a pair of audio and video editors by the same guys who brought us shotwell. Reviewers welcome, Matthias ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 16:45:50 +0530 From: Ankur Sinha <sanjay.ankur(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: some help needed To: desktop(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Message-ID: <1279019750.2576.26.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Mon, 2010-07-12 at 22:36 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > 609175 gtksourceview3 This one is already assigned. I'm taking this one: > 611010 webkitgtk3 > Ankur ------------------------------ -- desktop mailing list desktop(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop End of desktop Digest, Vol 77, Issue 6 **************************************

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some help needed
by Matthias Clasen 13 Jul '10

13 Jul '10

Hey, I am trying to get GNOME 2.31.4 into rawhide, and could use some help. There are some reviews that need to happen: 609175 gtksourceview3 (this blocks building gedit against gtk3) 602279 LibRaw (this blocks building shotwell 0.6) And there are some more libraries that we need to pacakge parallel-installable gtk3 versions for: unique3 vte3 webkitgtk3 Any help appreciated, Matthias

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Two new applications for review
by Matthias Clasen 12 Jul '10

12 Jul '10

I've put together quick packages for fillmore/lombard here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613879 These are a pair of audio and video editors by the same guys who brought us shotwell. Reviewers welcome, Matthias

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F14 plans, test days?
by Adam Williamson 12 Jul '10

12 Jul '10

Hi, folks. From a QA angle, I'm just wondering - what's the big desktop plans for F14? Are we going to be rolling out GNOME 2.30 / 3.0 with this release? Are there any particular areas where it'd be good to have a Test Day, or could we even take a Test Week to focus on shiny new GNOME stuff like GNOME Shell? Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net

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Re: desktop Digest, Vol 77, Issue 4
by Hristo Petkov 09 Jul '10

09 Jul '10

Hi, There are speech packages in the repository lists. System ->Administration -> Add/Remove Software In the search box write: speech and take a look at the packages developed so far. Regards --- On Fri, 7/9/10, desktop-request(a)lists.fedoraproject.org <desktop-request(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: From: desktop-request(a)lists.fedoraproject.org <desktop-request(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> Subject: desktop Digest, Vol 77, Issue 4 To: desktop(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Date: Friday, July 9, 2010, 12:00 PM Send desktop mailing list submissions to desktop(a)lists.fedoraproject.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to desktop-request(a)lists.fedoraproject.org You can reach the person managing the list at desktop-owner(a)lists.fedoraproject.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of desktop digest..." Today's Topics: 1. gnome-3 and speech dispatcher (pbrobinson(a)gmail.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 12:47:58 +0100 From: "pbrobinson(a)gmail.com" <pbrobinson(a)gmail.com> Subject: gnome-3 and speech dispatcher To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop <fedora-desktop-list(a)redhat.com> Message-ID: <AANLkTimL-mpzcm8tr2Kln774TYrlxc3CyoxSTN7Mu0NT(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi All, I know it was discussed about using speech dispatcher as part of the accessibility layer in gnome-3, I'm not sure if this was ever used and wondering if anyone can give me the current status. I'm the current maintainer of it by default due to sugar having used it for quite a while. I'm looking at upgrading it to the 0.7 release which improves a few things like PA support but I wanted to make sure I'm not going to break other stuff in the process. I've also been made aware of some other issues with KDE's use of it that I hope to fix as well as part of that. Cheers, Peter [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=569531 ------------------------------ -- desktop mailing list desktop(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop End of desktop Digest, Vol 77, Issue 4 **************************************

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gnome-3 and speech dispatcher
by Peter Robinson 09 Jul '10

09 Jul '10

Hi All, I know it was discussed about using speech dispatcher as part of the accessibility layer in gnome-3, I'm not sure if this was ever used and wondering if anyone can give me the current status. I'm the current maintainer of it by default due to sugar having used it for quite a while. I'm looking at upgrading it to the 0.7 release which improves a few things like PA support but I wanted to make sure I'm not going to break other stuff in the process. I've also been made aware of some other issues with KDE's use of it that I hope to fix as well as part of that. Cheers, Peter [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=569531

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Features/PolkitAgentReorg - FedoraProject
by Christoph Wickert 07 Jul '10

07 Jul '10

What is the status of http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/PolkitAgentReorg ? If this should become a feature of F14, the wiki page needs to be updated ASAP so that the feature wrangler can look at it before handing it over to FESCO. FWIW the wiki page is contradictory: > The individual agent implementations will no longer provide autostart > desktop files. The policy decision which agent to start rests with the > desktop environment, which can either hardcode the start of the agent > or install an autostart desktop file. > > > Benefit to Fedora > > Fedora sets an example of cross-desktop cooperation, and Fedora users > can freely choose between multiple installed desktops So the agent gets hardcoded somewhere in the desktop environment, but the users can choose freely? Huh? IMHO the simplest way to select the agent is to use the session properties because all desktops have a configuration dialog for this. Therefor we need the autostart files. Last but not least I'd to say that IMHO this hardly meets the criteria for a feature. Nether me nor Jaroslav got any replies to our last mails after I started a discussion about this back in April, so I just went ahead and built lxpolkit. Please speak up if something breaks for you. Regards, Christoph

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