desktop February 2011

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Fw: Re: New F15 Wallpaper and Idea for Easier defaults switching
by Martin Sourada 03 Feb '11

03 Feb '11

Oops, forgot to CC the desktop list. Begin forwarded message: Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 23:39:13 +0100 From: Martin Sourada <martin DOT sourada AT gmail DOT com> To: Christoph Wickert <christoph DOT wickert AT googlemail DOT com> Subject: Re: New F15 Wallpaper and Idea for Easier defaults switching Hi Christoph, On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 18:19:08 +0100 Christoph Wickert wrote: > > lxde-common and lxdm als use usr/share/backgrounds/default.png. Just > like slim and some others. This means we still need > usr/share/backgrounds/default.png and the desktop-backgrounds-compat > package. > > I am not sure if we need > [release-name]-backgrounds-[desktop-environment] packages. I suggest > to Their primary purpose is to add the wallpaper to the lists in background choosers (plus both GNOME and KDE have their own specifications so we need more files than just the images) > * do all of that in desktop-backgrounds-compat, it's just a few > symlinks > * build the desktop specific subpackages as part of > desktop-backgrounds rather than [release-name]-backgrounds. If > somebody has the packages of 2 different releases installed, > the subpackages will collide. Actually, I have thought about that but didn't consider it too common to install wallpapers from rawhide into stable releases. It's done in a way that within a single release it wouldn't collide. But your idea seems slightly better, I'd just prefer if they were subpackages of the [release-name]-backgrounds (we could actually make the current virtual provides into their own package so the system-backgrounds-* would actually be packages of their own) to keep the packages needed to update to minimum. We could probably also move the /usr/share/backgrounds/default.png out of desktop-backgrounds-compat to system-backgrounds-compat (I wonder who initially came with the system-backgrounds name for the virtual provides...). All this would make the update consist of two packages. It also seems a little cleaner to me to have one %if in each [release-name]-backgrounds package than zillions of %ifs (or different SPECs between branches) in desktop-backgrounds. In short, e.g. for GNOME the packages generated by [release-name]-backgrounds would be [release-name]-backgrounds-{single,gnome} and system-backgrounds-gnome (if on [release-name]). Of course all properly versioned to allow smooth upgrade path between releases. But if you'd still prefer the defaults to be handled via desktop-backgrounds-* I can go that way as well. What do you think? Regards, Martin

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New F15 Wallpaper and Idea for Easier defaults switching
by Martin Sourada 03 Feb '11

03 Feb '11

Hi all, The default wallpaper for F15 lovelock release is being packaged right now (I'm awaiting adding it to git right now). It is a sort of compromise [1] between what desktop folks wanted (use default gnome wallpaper for desktop spin for f15) and many design folks wanted (default wallpaper on default spin should be created by ourselves). I'll let you know again when all the packages are in rawhide so you can change the defaults. Now I would like to present an idea how to handle the defaults in a more efficient way. Since I'm not an expert in handling these in all the desktops we ship your input would be very much welcome. Let's start with GNOME since that is what I've been using till now: Along with the virtual system-backgrounds-gnome provides also provide a symlink (I propose /usr/share/backgrounds/default.xml) to the intended default and set it to by system wide defaults. This way just updating the wallpaper packages would also update the symlink and thus the default background. Correct me if I'm wrong or need something more. Of course you could override the system defaults for spins if needed. Now for XFCE which I'm using now. I noticed that if I put an image into /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops it will appear in the backgrounds applet, so I created new -xfce subpackage (with system-backgrounds-xfce virtual provides) to provide the wallpapers for xfce users. For easier defaults I propose to create default.png symlink in the same directory which you could then set as default. That way updating the wallpaper packages would also update the default wallpaper. I have no idea how defaults are handled in XFCE so this might not be the correct way to do it, so please correct me if I'm wrong. For KDE I'm thinking about symlinking the whole (currently) Lovelock directory with images and wallpaper description to Default directory at the same place (of course, provided by package with system-backgrounds-kde virtual provides). Not sure if that would be all that's needed or whether different procedure would be desirable. So again, correct me if I'm wrong. For LXDE I have not the slightest idea so any suggestions how to keep handling the defaults limited to [release-name]-backgrounds* packages is welcomed. Thanks, Martin PS: I hope I CCed the right people, if not I apologize and if you know of a better person/interest group suited for this discussion not CCed yet, please forward the mail to them. PPS: And sorry for cross posting it to both desktop design-team mailing list, but I think both groups might have something to add to the discussion. References: [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Mockingbird-stripes-3-mo-jef.png

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GNOME 3 Test Day #1: announcement up
by Adam Williamson 02 Feb '11

02 Feb '11

Hey folks, just a quick note that I've put up the 'official' announcement of the first GNOME 3 Test Day: http://www.happyassassin.net/2011/01/31/gnome-3-test-day-1-come-try-the-new… If you can blog it (or dent it or tweet it or whatever the cool kids are doing with the intarwebs nowadays) that would be really great - especially if you can get it on aggregators, particularly Fedora and GNOME Planets, and any news sites you know of. Also huge thanks to John Palmieri, Christopher Aillon and David Malcolm who fed me a huge set of test case ideas today at FUDCon - I definitely have enough to make a really comprehensive set of tests for the event. Right now the page still has the crappy initial set of test cases, but I'll be writing up the ideas I got today and the ones from Cosimo as test cases tonight and tomorrow, probably, and updating the page to be way more awesome. Of course, if you have any time on Thursday (whenever that is, in your time zone) please come and drop by the IRC channel, and do some testing or help out other testers or whatever you can, that would be really helpful too. And please let me know if you have any suggestions or corrections or ideas or anything for the event(s). thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net

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Status of bluetooth in Gnome3
by Jóhann B. Guðmundsson 01 Feb '11

01 Feb '11

What's the current status of Bluetooth in Gnome3 I performed Gnome 3 show and tell last Saturday and after finally managing to pair the device Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless bluetooth Keyboard the keyboard did not work. It took 3 tries since the time I had to enter all those numbers and the time the pairing timed out seem to be a bit short. Now I'm not sure what policy you guys have for Bluetooth devices but I hope that you dont expect that users can enter "code" on all of them for example I have a Bluetooth GPS module that when pairing uses the default 0000 or 01234 ( I cant recall at the moment but it's one of those common defaults ) so I would have no way on the device to entered some kind of number to pair it together with the laptop. We might want to add few bluetooth testcases to our test days to cover a bit bluetooth devices ( pairing and using phones keyboard mice etc ). JBG

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