September 2015 - desktop - Fedora mailing-lists

Dropping i686 media for F24
by Paul W. Frields 28 Jan '16

28 Jan '16

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2015-August/001661… Stephen Gallagher has proposed a Change for Server to drop i686 media for F24. Given our previous list discussion, this is something for which we should probably follow suit. Thoughts? -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com

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file triggers in rawhide
by Matthias Clasen 05 Dec '15

05 Dec '15

Hey, I've added file triggers for a number of desktop things: - gsettings schemas - gio modules - desktop files - mime types - gdk-pixbuf loaders - gtk im modules If you are updating a desktop package in rawhide that uses any of glib-compile-schemas, gio-querymodules, update-desktop-database, update -mime-database, gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders or gtk-query-immodules-3.0 in its %post, %postun or %posttrans, you can simply drop those calls - the file triggers will take care of things. For the time being, it might be a good idea to add a dependency on a new-enough build of the package(s) whose file triggers you are using. Here is a representative commit: http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/gedit.git/commit/?id=1cd2537b862233c c4b4b1d59a56d26224e8b5b8a Matthias

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when battery power is critical
by Chris Murphy 09 Oct '15

09 Oct '15

On Fedora 22 cleanly installed, this is what I see in Settings > Power: Automatic suspend: Off When battery power is critical: Hibernate There are no choices, those are fixed settings that I can't change. The actual behavior I see when the battery gets critical though, is suspend, not hibernate. First there is a message the machine is about to be hibernated, but then: Sep 27 02:45:38 f22m.localdomain systemd-sleep[4960]: Suspending system... I get the same results with Fedora 23, with one exception in Settings > Power "When battery power is critical: Hibernate" is not listed at all, just that automatic suspend is off. Anyway, the system suspends, but there is no battery power so the suspend to RAM is lost, and it's entirely possible if not likely that there will be data loss or fs corruption as a result. Also cc'ing test@ because I'm not seeing a test case for this. It seems to me that out of the box we shouldn't be risking people's data like this, but it's not like poweroff -f is a whole lot better (except for the fs portion). -- Chris Murphy

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Fedora 23 beta observations: the Utilities folder in the Applications view
by Elad Alfassa 30 Sep '15

30 Sep '15

Hi, I noticed we now install the new Characters app by default, which is great. However, wouldn't it make more sense if it'd go in the Utilities folder, where the old one used to live? Additionally I noticed Disks also found its way out of the Utilities folder, which also feels weird. It should probably go back to Utilities as well What do you think? -- -Elad.

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Workstation WG meeting recap 2015-Sep-30
by Paul W. Frields 30 Sep '15

30 Sep '15

Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-09-30/workstation.2015… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-09-30/workstation.2015… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-09-30/workstation.2015… * * * =============================== #fedora-meeting: Workstation WG =============================== Meeting started by stickster at 14:00:01 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-09-30/workstation.2015… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call (stickster, 14:00:04) * Utilities folder entries (stickster, 14:03:26) * ACTION: juhp_ nudge dueno to see email for fixing gnome-characters package (stickster, 14:07:17) * Fedora user agent for Chrome (stickster, 14:08:13) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1266569 (stickster, 14:08:20) * IDEA: Add this to Fedora 23 release notes, even though it's already been in, just to ensure users are informed (stickster, 14:09:26) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1266569#c10 <-- how are we installing this thing?? (mcatanzaro, 14:16:45) * ACTION: stickster Draft release note for Docs team and cc the desktop@ list for info (stickster, 14:18:59) * PulseAudio flat volumes (stickster, 14:19:15) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1265267 (stickster, 14:19:20) * ACTION: stickster review BZ 1265267 input from Wim/Arun for next meeting (stickster, 14:29:05) * F24 developer features (stickster, 14:38:13) * IDEA: extending GNOME Builder to provide additional container related tools (stickster, 14:48:14) * IDEA: make it dead simple to develop and build a RHEL application on Fedora, possibly through Builder (stickster, 14:54:09) Meeting ended at 14:56:28 UTC. Action Items ------------ * juhp_ nudge dueno to see email for fixing gnome-characters package * stickster Draft release note for Docs team and cc the desktop@ list for info * stickster review BZ 1265267 input from Wim/Arun for next meeting Action Items, by person ----------------------- * juhp_ * juhp_ nudge dueno to see email for fixing gnome-characters package * stickster * stickster Draft release note for Docs team and cc the desktop@ list for info * stickster review BZ 1265267 input from Wim/Arun for next meeting * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * stickster (71) * mcatanzaro (39) * mclasen__ (38) * otaylor (20) * rdieter (17) * juhp_ (14) * cschalle (11) * drago01 (8) * zodbot (7) * linuxmodder (2) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com

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Workstation WG meeting call for agenda 2015-Sep-30
by Paul W. Frields 30 Sep '15

30 Sep '15

Reminder: WG meeting tomorrow (Wed 2015-Sep-30) at 1400 UTC/10:00am US-EDT. Sorry for sending this agenda notice late. We have a couple items to discuss as far as I can tell: * Utilities folder entries -- who is creating downstream patch(es)? * Re: <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1266569> -- user agent issue -- what if anything do we need to notify users about here? (Preferably this should go in release notes) If you have additions to the agenda, please submit them to this thread by 30 minutes before tomorrow's meeting. Thanks and sorry again for the delay. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com

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Google Chrome User-Agent Extension
by Stephen Gallagher 28 Sep '15

28 Sep '15

This bug was just brought to my attention: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1266569 It appears that this extension is now installed by default on the Fedora Workstation release. I don't personally have a problem with this, but could someone please point me to where the decision was made and discussed so I can update the BZ and close it out?

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Kodi and Digital TV viewer
by Stephen Allen 26 Sep '15

26 Sep '15

Hi Folks! First post to this list - I'm a long time Debian user who wanted to try out the latest Gnome-Shell. I've got everything I want/need installed, bar the two applications mentioned in my subject line. How does one get these via repo? Also another question if I may - what is the default package manager for Fedora. I have 4 software mgrs: "Software", Package Manager, Yum Extender and Yum Extender-DNF. What's the difference between the 2 Yum Mgrs? Thanks. If this is the wrong list, please let me know.

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Re: Beta Announcement Highlights?
by Matthew Miller 18 Sep '15

18 Sep '15

On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 07:32:09PM -0400, Joe Brockmeier wrote: > We're sneaking up on the beta release, and the readiness meeting is > tomorrow. > I need some highlights for the beta release from folks who are working > on cloud, server, and workstation. Please send to me via email (e.g., > here) or add to the wiki here: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F23_Beta_release_announcement Hey everyone. We're getting down to the crunch on this and Joe can't do it alone. I'm going to set aside a block of time (say, 17:00-19:00 UTC) tomorrow to hack on this. Join me in #fedora-mktg if you're able to help -- or just put things in the wiki. It doesn't even really need to be polished... need content first. Desktop, Server, Cloud WG people -- we could really use your help with talking points. What are the coolest, best-selling features from your point of view? (For reference, the Alpha annoucement is https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F23_Alpha_release_announcement.) it's fine, but not super-exciting. Can we do better? -- Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader

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Re: Beta Announcement Highlights?
by Matthew Miller 18 Sep '15

18 Sep '15

On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 07:32:09PM -0400, Joe Brockmeier wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F23_Beta_release_announcement Okay, so, looking to be in much better shape. Thanks everyone! I have some other thing to wrap up today but will check back over the weekend and work on Monday on final polish for the Tuesday announcement. Cloud WG -- still need some more there, though! -- Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader

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Darktable Copr
by Josh Boyer 17 Sep '15

17 Sep '15

Hello, Today FESCo resolved ticket 1475[1], which was discussing how to handle the Darktable package. As Stephen Gallagher noted, this is a somewhat popular package for Workstation setups. It was suggested that Workstation include the more up-to-date Copr of Darktable in it's "playground" or "included by not enabled" repository setup. I'm forwarding this request to the Workstation group for review. Thank you. josh [1] https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1475

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Distribute R-core package with a launcher and appdata
by Bastián Díaz 16 Sep '15

16 Sep '15

Hello everyone, my proposal is this: -Include a desktop launcher *.desktop for R (terminal=true) -Include information about application (aka appdata) In gnome-software working to promote appdata, but unfortunately only consider applications with GUI and for good reason, but I think you can give some exceptions like R. For example, Octave before its version 4.0 and official GUI, was distributed with desktop launcher and now has appdata, making it easy to install with gnome-software. R, it is a project with great reputation and widely used in research and academia. The benefits: -Very visible (easy to find and install/remove) -Easy to launch through the application view (gnome-shell) -Quick access to the project website -Rating and other benefits of gnome-software (running out-of-the-box, usage statistics?, etc.) Additional info: R now have a nice flat logo -> https://www.r-project.org/Rlogo.png Cheers -- Bastián Díaz

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Call for agenda for Workstation WG meeting 2015-Sep-16
by Paul W. Frields 16 Sep '15

16 Sep '15

I heartily apologize for this email being way too late, since I like to circulate a call for agenda a few days ahead of the meeting. I'm having a hard time finding what we need to decide in a WG meeting this week. There has been good discussion that started about Darktable -- resolved the specific issue for now, although there are spinoffs happening, albeit without a clear agenda-ready question. Am I missing a clear decision point for which we need to meet this week? -- Paul

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WG meeting today canceled
by Paul W. Frields 16 Sep '15

16 Sep '15

There's not sufficient reason to meet today; we'll plan to meet again in two weeks per normal. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com

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GDM memory leaks
by Michael Cronenworth 15 Sep '15

15 Sep '15

Why is GDM kept around for Gnome logins? Is there a way to disable this "parent" GDM process? Over the course of a few days the GDM user process of gnome-shell balloons in memory usage from very small to very large. The following stats were produced on a box with a 5 day uptime and 8 GB of RAM. PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 1051 gdm 20 0 3024276 1.513g 23336 S 0.0 19.4 0:45.92 gnome-shell 1594 mcronen+ 20 0 2484876 469104 51276 S 3.0 5.7 47:02.37 gnome-shell This is a recurring theme[1]. Are there known fixes? (Only in Gnome Shell 3.18+?) Michael [1] https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=196190

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GNOME Terminal downstream patching: missing translations
by Adam Williamson 14 Sep '15

14 Sep '15

Fedora is still insisting on diverging from upstream GNOME Terminal. I'm on the side that this isn't a great idea, but whatever, it's a valid thing to do. However, it's not good that bugs *introduced* by this downstream patching seem to be ignored: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1208266 the package patched back in the "Use dark theme variant" option, but did not patch back in its translations, so it appears only in English. This was reported 5 months ago but hasn't received even an acknowledgment. If we're going to do this can we at least maintain the variance properly? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net

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Call for agenda for Workstation WG meeting 2015-Sept-02
by Michael Catanzaro 09 Sep '15

09 Sep '15

Next meeting is Wednesday, 2015-Sept-02 at 1400 UTC / 10:00am US-Eastern. Agenda additions are welcome, but might be deferred to the next meeting, since I have a big list. My plan is to get through the first four items rather quickly, and focus the meeting on Atomic. But we'll see what happens! - i686 install media no longer "primary/blocking deliverable" for F24 - Is the text on for the workstation product on getfedora.org OK? - SecureBoot enabled causes Win 8 UEFI to not start from grub - Drop Shotwell/Transmission for F23? - What are the next steps for Atomic Workstation?

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Is the text on for the workstation product on getfedora.org OK?
by Ankur Sinha 09 Sep '15

09 Sep '15

Hiya! We were recently discussing what marketing collateral we should have for the different products[1]. To paraphrase the rather long thread, the design and marketing teams have suggested that we have a timeless flyer for each product. ("Timeless" implying that the flyer will not be release specific and will not be updated per release). As part of this, we'd like the product WGs to please go over the text on getfedora.org and see if the text is OK or if they'd like to update it before F23. The idea here is to keep the text on the websites and the flyers in sync for a better, more uniform marketing system. Could this rather tiny task please be put on the WG's agendas? I'll file trac tickets if required :) [1] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/marketing/2015-July/0177 45.html [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha/Marketing_Collateral _Ideas#Plan.3F -- Thanks, Regards, Ankur Sinha "FranciscoD" http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha

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DevAssistant vs. Interface Guidelines (Applications installed by default)
by Tomas Radej 08 Sep '15

08 Sep '15

Hi, DevAssistant upstream here. We're acutely aware of the DA GUI not conforming to the guidelines, and not only for that reason, we intend to drop it entirely and replace it with an in-house Web UI for Fedora 24. The replacement is a part of the larger effort of converting DA to a client/server model, which is underway, and should be ready for F24. If, then, there is someone willing to write a GTK-based GUI client for DA from scratch (the current GUI will not be usable at all due to reworked architecture), we'll be more than happy to help them make it happen (We already have some design sketches from Mizmo, so the design part is taken care of). Mind you that none of us really understands GTK, PyGObject, and the like, so it's the inner workings we can help with rather than making the GUI itself. We'll have a public DA server API out soon, so I can point the person to it once it's done. In any case, we're very much interested in DevAssistant staying installed by default, so we'd like to work this out before the actual suggestion of dropping it makes it to the table. If you have any questions or comments, please post to devassistant(a)lists.fedoraproject.org, or come to #devassistant at Freenode. Cheers, -- Tomas Radej

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Important workaround for brw_meta_fast_clear segfaults on some Intel GC
by Enrico Tagliavini 04 Sep '15

04 Sep '15

Hi, this bug generated quite some fuss already in the internet, so probably you are aware of it. Since it is quite important I would like to bring it to your attention if it has been not. The bug is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1259443 This heavily (and mainly) affect desktops installation, especially KDE spins, but also multimedia applications. Since user experience is heavily affected (to the point I just recompiled mesa with the named workaround to get my work desktop usable again) I thought it was a good idea to point it out on the mailing list to hopefully get a workaround in quickly. Thank you for your help. Best regards Enrico

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Workstation deliverables for F23
by Jan Kurik 03 Sep '15

03 Sep '15

Hi Working Group, currently we are missing list of release deliverables (blocking as well as non-blocking) for Fedora releases. Some time ago there has been an activity started in FESCo to fill this gap [1]. As part of this activity has been put together a Wiki page summarizing all the deliverables we need, to have a Fedora release complete [2]. I would like to ask you (WG) to go through the section "Workstation" of the Wiki page and put together the list of deliverables which is produced by Workstation WG for Fedora 23. Thanks for your cooperation. Regards, Jan [1] https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1427 [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Program_Management/ReleaseBlocking/Fe… -- Jan Kuřík Platform & Fedora Program Manager Red Hat Czech s.r.o., Purkynova 99/71, 612 45 Brno, Czech Republic

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Workstation WG Recap 2015-Sep-02
by Michael Catanzaro 03 Sep '15

03 Sep '15

Note: the link to the HTML minutes and the log is not working. Not sure why. Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-09-02/wor kstation.2015-09-02-14.01.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-09 -02/workstation.2015-09-02-14.01.txt Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-09-02/worksta tion.2015-09-02-14.01.log.html =============================== #fedora-meeting: Workstation WG =============================== Meeting started by mcatanzaro at 14:01:15 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-09-02/workstation. 2015-09-02-14.01.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call! (mcatanzaro, 14:01:32) * i686 install media (mcatanzaro, 14:07:55) * Is the text on the workstation product on getfedora.org OK? (mcatanzaro, 14:11:17) * LINK: https://getfedora.org/ (mcatanzaro, 14:11:33) * "Fedora Workstation is a polished, easy to use operating system for laptop and desktop computers, with a complete set of tools and helpers for developers and makers of all kinds." (mcatanzaro, 14:11:57) * LINK: https://getfedora.org/en/workstation/ (mcatanzaro, 14:12:07) * "This is the Linux workstation you've been waiting for." (mcatanzaro, 14:12:16) * "Fedora Workstation is a reliable, user-friendly, and powerful operating system for your laptop or desktop computer. It supports a wide range of developers, from hobbyists and students to professionals in corporate environments." (mcatanzaro, 14:12:51) * SecureBoot enabled causes Win 8 UEFI to not start from grub (mcatanzaro, 14:19:52) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1170245 (mcatanzaro, 14:21:01) * ACTION: mcatanzaro to ask Chris Murphy to follow up on https://github.com/rhinstaller/shim/issues regarding https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1170245 (mcatanzaro, 14:24:39) * Default applications (mcatanzaro, 14:24:54) * ACTION: mcatanzaro to investigate probable Shotwell security issue (mcatanzaro, 14:55:31) * ACTION: mcatanzaro to remove transmission (mcatanzaro, 15:00:56) Meeting ended at 15:00:58 UTC. Action Items ------------ * mcatanzaro to ask Chris Murphy to follow up on https://github.com/rhinstaller/shim/issues regarding https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1170245 * mcatanzaro to investigate probable Shotwell security issue * mcatanzaro to remove transmission Action Items, by person ----------------------- * mcatanzaro * mcatanzaro to ask Chris Murphy to follow up on https://github.com/rhinstaller/shim/issues regarding https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1170245 * mcatanzaro to investigate probable Shotwell security issue * mcatanzaro to remove transmission * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * mcatanzaro (80) * mclasen (24) * otaylor (18) * rishi (17) * kalev (15) * juhp_ (10) * zodbot (6) * rdieter (4) * sgallagh (2) * cschalle (2) * mclasen_ (1) * pjones (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Let's reconsider some more applications installed by default
by Michael Catanzaro 02 Sep '15

02 Sep '15

>From the latest revision of our PRD [1]: "Fedora Workstation follows the GNOME Human Interface Guidelines. These guidelines are mandatory for applications installed by default." Currently we have applications that clearly do not follow these guidelines. Unless we plan to revisit this section of the PRD, we should remove them, or set a deadline for them to be improved. * Devassistant. Needs an app menu, plus a serious sit-down with the GNOME designers. We want to make it easy to develop apps for Fedora, but not at the cost of leaving a bad quality impression. * Evolution: Needs a major redesign that is not going to happen. Geary is not yet a suitable replacement. Options: (1) Not install any email client, because most users will use webmail; we can feature Evolution in GNOME Software. (2) If we want to keep Evolution installed by default, it's time to require the maintainers to add an app menu. * Firefox. I see two options here: (1) replace it with Epiphany (FWIW, I think Epiphany has matured enough recently for this to be reasonable, but I am biased ;) (2) enable the GNOME extensions, mandate that they be updated in tandem with updates to Firefox in Fedora, and patch in an application menu. The extensions are good, and Mozilla is a reasonable upstream we can work with to get permission for this. The status quo should not be an option. * setroubleshoot. This app is completely hopeless. SELinux issues are sufficiently rare nowadays that we simply do not need this anymore, although it would be ideal for ABRT to detect the issues and handle bug reports. * Shotwell. Eventually we can replace it with GNOME Photos, but in the meantime, users can just install a photo management app if they want one. Also, I suspect Shotwell sends your password to Facebook without verifying its TLS certificate.... * Transmission. Its only significant legal use is to download our competitor's products (Linux ISOs), hardly something we need to encourage. It's featured in GNOME Software already. Thoughts? Michael [1] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/desktop/2015-June/012419.html

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Workstation WG Recap 2015-Aug-19
by Michael Catanzaro 02 Sep '15

02 Sep '15

Recap for the meeting from two weeks ago. Minutes: https://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation /workstation.2015-08-19-14.00.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation /workstation.2015-08-19-14.00.txt Log: https://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation /workstation.2015-08-19-14.00.log.html * * * =============================== #fedora-meeting: Workstation WG =============================== Meeting started by mclasen at 14:00:27 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-08-19/workstation. 2015-08-19-14.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call (mclasen, 14:00:50) * Possible critical GLib issue? (mclasen, 14:12:42) * ACTION: mclasen to come up with a working fix for glib file monitoring (mclasen, 14:17:24) * rpm-ostree based Workstation - are we going to line this up for a f24 chnge ? (mclasen, 14:18:14) * ACTION: otaylor reach out to Adam Miller and Richard Hughes to discuss workstation ostrees and updates (mclasen, 14:22:36) * ACTION: mclasen find resources to investigate automatic rpm -> xdg-app conversion (mclasen, 14:30:25) * i686 demotion (mclasen, 14:38:30) * AGREED: We will keep the i686 workstation image for f23 (mclasen, 14:55:34) * The Workstation WG would prefer to keep i686 if and only if someone is actively maintaining the kernel, otherwise they will drop it (mclasen, 14:59:42) * gnome-characters to replace gucharmap ? (mclasen, 14:59:55) * IDEA: : replace gucharmap with gnome-characters in f23 (mclasen, 15:01:47) * AGREED: gnome-characters will replace gucharmap in f23 (mclasen, 15:07:10) * ACTION: kalev replace gucharmap by gnome-characters (mclasen, 15:07:24) Meeting ended at 15:07:37 UTC. Action Items ------------ * mclasen to come up with a working fix for glib file monitoring * otaylor reach out to Adam Miller and Richard Hughes to discuss workstation ostrees and updates * mclasen find resources to investigate automatic rpm -> xdg-app conversion * kalev replace gucharmap by gnome-characters Action Items, by person ----------------------- * kalev * kalev replace gucharmap by gnome-characters * mclasen * mclasen to come up with a working fix for glib file monitoring * mclasen find resources to investigate automatic rpm -> xdg-app conversion * otaylor * otaylor reach out to Adam Miller and Richard Hughes to discuss workstation ostrees and updates * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * mclasen (105) * kalev (31) * otaylor (30) * sgallagh (26) * rdieter (11) * cschalle (6) * zodbot (5) * nirik (1) * Southern_Gentlem (1) * aday__ (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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I am a loser -- WG meeting 2015-Sep-02
by Paul W. Frields 02 Sep '15

02 Sep '15

I hate to do this again. Really. But I'm going to be unavailable for our next Workstation WG meeting on Wednesday 2015-Sep-02 because I need to take my son to an open house at his new school, while my wife is at class herself. Is there someone who can take the helm that day? -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com

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