Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 14 Jul
by Chris Murphy
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#fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2020-07-14)
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Meeting started by cmurf at 01:39:47 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2020-07-15/workstation...
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Meeting summary
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* Rollcall (cmurf, 01:40:09)
* present wg members: cmurf, Neal, aday, mclasen, mcatanzaro,
petersen, otaylor, langdon, tpopela (cmurf, 01:40:11)
* regrets wg members: kalev (cmurf, 01:40:13)
* present guests: Davide Cavalca, Alex, salimma, feborges, Josef
(cmurf, 01:40:15)
* Approve minutes for 7 Jun meeting (cmurf, 01:40:17)
* LINK:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2020-07-08/workstation...
(cmurf, 01:40:19)
* AGREED: no objections (cmurf, 01:40:21)
* Announcements (cmurf, 01:40:23)
* Neal: has proposed a btrfs talk for flock (cmurf, 01:40:25)
* : Abrt retrace server is down for several weeks, affects local
backtraces (cmurf, 01:40:29)
* ACTION: Michael to create a workstation issue (cmurf, 01:40:31)
* Davide: start of a btrfs getting started guide (cmurf, 01:40:33)
* Follow-ups & Status reports (cmurf, 01:40:37)
* Nano by default (cmurf, 01:40:39)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/103 (cmurf,
01:40:41)
* F33 change approved by FESCo. What are the next steps? (cmurf,
01:40:43)
* ACTION: Neal to implement the change (cmurf, 01:40:45)
* Swap on zram (cmurf, 01:40:47)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/127 (cmurf,
01:40:49)
* F33 change approved by FESCo and we voted in favour. Changes
on-track. (cmurf, 01:40:51)
* general topics (cmurf, 01:40:57)
* btrfs by default (cmurf, 01:40:59)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/153 (cmurf,
01:41:01)
* Davide and Neal have been working on image build infra with btrfs
subvolumes (cmurf, 01:41:03)
* Test day happened last week (cmurf, 01:41:05)
* LINK: https://testdays.fedorainfracloud.org/events/88 (cmurf,
01:41:07)
* AGREED: Plan is to proceed with btrfs by identifying potential
issues/blockers and tracking them individually, rather than have a
go/no go vote. No objections. (cmurf, 01:42:05)
* default partitioning: solving the competition for free space (cmurf,
01:42:07)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/152 (cmurf,
01:42:09)
* AGREED: Deferred. (cmurf, 01:42:11)
* Guidelines for preinstalled and non-removable apps (cmurf, 01:42:13)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/125 (cmurf,
01:42:15)
* AGREED: Deferred. (cmurf, 01:42:17)
Meeting ended at 01:42:30 UTC.
Action Items
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* Michael to create a workstation issue
* Neal to implement the change
Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* Michael to create a workstation issue
* Neal to implement the change
People Present (lines said)
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* cmurf (69)
* zodbot (7)
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"Steam hardware survey" kinda thing?
by Matthew Miller
Last night, as I was launching Stellaris, I got the rare but occasional
Steam Hardware Survey popup. I'm always happy when I do, because I get to
represent gaming on Fedora platforms. ("I'm helping!")
Then, this morning, there's the discussion of btrfs compression options, for
which it would obviously be useful for us to know the typical Fedora
Workstation user's hard drive and CPU characteristics.
I know some of us have been thinking about implementing a system-info
metrics tool similar to what Endless presented at last GUADEC, or what
Canonical does for Ubuntu. I'm not ruling those out, but what if we had
something (a shell extension? something else?) that would unobtrusively
offer a survey, with a chance of happening on a given system maybe twice a
year?
--
Matthew Miller
<mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>
Fedora Project Leader
3 years, 4 months
Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 7 Jul
by Chris Murphy
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#fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2020-07-07)
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Meeting started by cmurf at 05:06:24 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2020-07-08/workstation...
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Meeting summary
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* Rollcall (cmurf, 05:07:06)
* present wg members: cmurf, mclasen, aday, neal, tpopela, jens,
mcatanzaro, owen (cmurf, 05:07:09)
* regrets wg members: kalev (cmurf, 05:07:11)
* present guests: feborges, bberg, josef, michel salim, davide
cavalca, jared dominguez, alex (cmurf, 05:07:13)
* Approve minutes for 30 Jun meeting (cmurf, 05:07:15)
* LINK:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2020-07-0...
(cmurf, 05:07:17)
* AGREED: no objections (cmurf, 05:07:19)
* Announcements (cmurf, 05:07:21)
* Follow-ups & Status reports (cmurf, 05:07:25)
* Swap on zram - please vote in ticket (cmurf, 05:07:27)
* LINK: https://testdays.fedorainfracloud.org/events/86 (cmurf,
05:07:31)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/127 (cmurf,
05:07:35)
* btrfs (cmurf, 05:07:37)
* btrfs test day tomorrow (cmurf, 05:07:45)
* Owen proposes Btrfs for F34 (cmurf, 05:07:47)
* LINK:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kzDhl56kS_YEjPtTGat3BYRyICGaOSSLHg1oJ...
(cmurf, 05:07:49)
* Should we include thermald by default? (cmurf, 05:07:51)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/71 (cmurf,
05:07:53)
* AGREED: No objections - proposal approved. (cmurf, 05:08:19)
* Reserve some I/O, CPU, and memory for critical session processes
(cmurf, 05:08:21)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/154 (cmurf,
05:08:23)
* Guidelines for preinstalled and non-removable apps (cmurf, 05:08:45)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/125#comment-661584
(cmurf, 05:08:47)
* AGREED: Defer until next week (cmurf, 05:08:49)
* Open btrfs floor (cmurf, 05:08:51)
Meeting ended at 05:09:01 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* cmurf (61)
* zodbot (7)
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Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 30 Jun
by Chris Murphy
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#fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2020-06-30)
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Meeting started by cmurf at 04:41:57 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2020-07-01/workstation...
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Meeting summary
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* Rollcall (cmurf, 04:42:17)
* present: aday, otaylor, tpopela, mclasen, langdon, jens, neal
(cmurf, 04:42:18)
* regrets: cmurf, kalev (cmurf, 04:42:20)
* Approve minutes for 16 Jun meeting (cmurf, 04:42:22)
* LINK:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2020-06-1...
(cmurf, 04:42:24)
* Approve minutes for 23 Jun meeting (cmurf, 04:42:26)
* LINK:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2020-06-2...
(cmurf, 04:42:28)
* Announcements (cmurf, 04:42:30)
* earlyoom change is being added to the kde spin (cmurf, 04:42:32)
* Follow-ups and status reports (cmurf, 04:42:46)
* btrfs change proposal went out (cmurf, 04:42:48)
* nano change proposal went out (cmurf, 04:42:58)
* thermald change proposal (cmurf, 04:43:02)
* ACTION: Owen to mail @devel to explain what we've discussed and
what's happening (cmurf, 04:43:24)
* ACTION: Ben to come back to the WG with more details (cmurf,
04:43:26)
* AGREED: We will discuss this again next week. (cmurf, 04:43:28)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/125#comment-661584
(cmurf, 04:43:32)
* AGREED: Deferred until next week (cmurf, 04:43:34)
Meeting ended at 04:44:19 UTC.
Action Items
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* Owen to mail @devel to explain what we've discussed and what's
happening
* Ben to come back to the WG with more details
Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* Owen to mail @devel to explain what we've discussed and what's
happening
* Ben to come back to the WG with more details
People Present (lines said)
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* cmurf (44)
* zodbot (7)
* aday (0)
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