desktop May 2022

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F32, Automatic suspend isn't working.
by Chris Murphy 01 Nov '22

01 Nov '22

cross-posting test@ and desktop@ Fedora Workstation 32 (upgraded from f31) Laptop on battery power set aside, 12 hours later it's dead instead of sleeping. On F31 it reliably would sleep after 20 minutes. Sleep still happens when pressing the power button and closing the lid. It seems to be a GNOME automatic suspend timer problem. Using dconf editor, I changed the /org/gnome/settings-daemon/plugins/power/sleep-inactive-battery-timeout Custom value 30 and the problem doesn't happen. Is there a way to increase debug messages somehow to find out whether this timeout is being reached? And what process or policy is causing it to be reset? With the available information I can't figure out what's preventing sleep. -- Chris Murphy

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by catanzaro＠fedoraproject.org 30 May '22

30 May '22

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2022-05-31 from 09:30:00 to 10:30:00 US/Eastern At https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Etherpad: https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/fedora-workstation-wg More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10142/

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Workstation WG meeting, 31 May (secretary: Tomáš)
by Chris Murphy 30 May '22

30 May '22

Hi all, The next meeting of the Fedora Workstation Working Group is planned for Tuesday 31 May, at 9.30 EDT. Join links: - https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ - https://www.bluejeans.com/numbers See below for the agenda. -- Agenda #topic Howdy integration #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/272 #topic In Repository Gnome Shell Extensions Need Some TLC #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/254 #topic Drop flathub filtering #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/300 #topic Preinstalled Flatpaks #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/269 #topic Graphical recovery environment #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/288 #topic Announcements, Status Updates #info The minutes from last week have been posted. https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2022-05-24-… -- Chris Murphy

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GNOME Photos slowly loads a large set of photos
by Luya Tshimbalanga 26 May '22

26 May '22

Hello team, When using GNOME Photos as main photos manager, the application takes longer to load a large set of pictures and ended up crashing midway. I already failed a bug report on https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2090880 and it will be nice if someone takes a look at the issue. From my understanding, it seems a tracker3 issue. Thanks in advance. -- Luya Tshimbalanga Fedora Design Team Fedora Design Suite maintainer

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Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2022-05-24
by Chris Murphy 24 May '22

24 May '22

============================================== #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2022-05-24) ============================================== Meeting started by brainycmurf at 18:40:10 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-05-24/workstation.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Present members: Chris, Michael, Jens, Tomas, Owen, Neal, Matthias (after 20min) (brainycmurf, 18:40:22) * Guests: Mike Fabian, Jack Sedita (brainycmurf, 18:40:22) * Regrets: Allan (brainycmurf, 18:40:22) * Missing: (brainycmurf, 18:40:22) * Secretary: Jens (brainycmurf, 18:40:22) * Update the Workstation PRD (brainycmurf, 18:40:25) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/262 (brainycmurf, 18:40:27) * AGREED: no objections: 6 members in favor of approving it (brainycmurf, 18:40:33) * NVIDIA driver and UEFI secure boot (brainycmurf, 18:40:35) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/155 (brainycmurf, 18:40:37) * Release blocking status of basic functionality tests for apps (brainycmurf, 18:40:55) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/304 (brainycmurf, 18:40:57) * Howdy integration (brainycmurf, 18:41:27) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/272 (brainycmurf, 18:41:31) * In Repository Gnome Shell Extensions Need Some TLC (brainycmurf, 18:41:33) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/254 (brainycmurf, 18:41:35) * Drop flathub filtering (brainycmurf, 18:41:37) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/300 (brainycmurf, 18:41:39) * Preinstalled Flatpaks (brainycmurf, 18:41:41) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/269 (brainycmurf, 18:41:43) * Graphical recovery environment (brainycmurf, 18:41:45) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/288 (brainycmurf, 18:41:47) * Announcements, Status Updates (brainycmurf, 18:41:49) * The minutes from last week have been posted. (brainycmurf, 18:41:51) * LINK: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2022-05-18-… (brainycmurf, 18:41:53) Meeting ended at 18:41:55 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * brainycmurf (51) * zodbot (7) * cmurf (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by catanzaro＠fedoraproject.org 23 May '22

23 May '22

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2022-05-24 from 09:30:00 to 10:30:00 US/Eastern At https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Etherpad: https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/fedora-workstation-wg More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10142/

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[Fedora 37] Call for Test Days
by Sumantro Mukherjee 23 May '22

23 May '22

Hi Fedora users, developers, and friends! It's time to start thinking about Test Days for Fedora 37. For anyone who isn't aware, a Test Day is an event usually focused around IRC for interaction and a Wiki page for instructions and results, with the aim being to get a bunch of interested users and developers together to test a specific feature or area of the distribution. You can run a Test Day on just about anything for which it would be useful to do some fairly focused testing in 'real time' with a group of testers; it doesn't have to be code, for instance, we often run Test Days for l10n/i18n topics. For more information on Test Days, see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days . Anyone who wants to can host their own Test Day, or you can request that the QA group helps you out with organization or any combination of the two. To propose a Test Day, just file a ticket in fedora-qa pagure - here's an example https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/624 . For instructions on hosting a Test Day, see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/SOP_Test_Day_management . You can see the schedule at https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issues?tags=test+days . There are many slots open right now. Consider the development schedule, though, in deciding when you want to run your Test Day - for some topics you may want to avoid the time before the Beta release or the time after the feature freeze or the Final Freeze. We normally aim to schedule Test Days on Thursdays; however, if you want to run a series of related Test Days, it's often a good idea to do something like Tuesday / Wednesday / Thursday of the same week (this is how we usually run the X Test Week, for instance). If all the Thursday slots fill up but more people want to run Test Days, we will open up Tuesday slots as overflows. And finally, if you really want to run a Test Day in a specific time frame due to the development schedule, but the Thursday slot for that week is full, we can add a slot on another day. We're flexible! Just put in your ticket the date or time frame you'd like, and we'll figure it out from there. If you don't want to run your own Test Day, but you are willing to help with another, feel free to join one or more of already accepted Test Days: GNOME Test Day* i18n Test Day* Kernel Test Week(s)* Upgrade Test Day* IoT Test Week* Cloud Test Day* Fedora CoreOS Test Week* And don't be afraid, there are a lot of more slots available for your own Test Day! [*] These are the test days we run generally to make sure everything is working fine, the dates get announced as we move into the release cycle. If you have any questions about the Test Day process, please don't hesitate to contact me or any member of the Fedora QA team on test at lists.fedoraproject.org or in #fedora-qa on IRC. Thanks! -- //sumantro Fedora QE TRIED AND PERSONALLY TESTED, ERGO TRUSTED

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Workstation WG meeting, 24 May (secretary: Jens)
by Chris Murphy 22 May '22

22 May '22

Hi all, The next meeting of the Fedora Workstation Working Group is planned for Tuesday 24 May, at 9.30 EDT. Join links: - https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ - https://www.bluejeans.com/numbers See below for the agenda. -- #topic Update the Workstation PRD #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/262 #topic NVIDIA driver and UEFI secure boot #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/155 #topic Release blocking status of basic functionality tests for apps #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/304 Assignees for sub-tasks, please: * https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/164 * https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/306 * https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/307 * https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/310 * https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/311 * https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/312 Backlog issues: #topic Howdy integration #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/272 #topic In Repository Gnome Shell Extensions Need Some TLC #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/254 #topic Drop flathub filtering #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/300 #topic Preinstalled Flatpaks #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/269 #topic Graphical recovery environment #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/288 #topic Announcements, Status Updates #info The minutes from last week have been posted. #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2022-05-18-… -- Chris Murphy

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Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2022-05-17
by Chris Murphy 18 May '22

18 May '22

============================================== #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2022-05-17) ============================================== Meeting started by brainycmurf at 17:14:26 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-05-18/workstation.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Present members:Neal, Michael, Allan, Tomas, Matthias, Chris, Jens, Owen (brainycmurf, 17:14:40) * Guests:Luna Jernberg(bittin), (brainycmurf, 17:14:40) * Regrets: (brainycmurf, 17:14:40) * Missing: (brainycmurf, 17:14:40) * Secretary: Matthias (brainycmurf, 17:14:40) * Review the state of i18n and l10n (brainycmurf, 17:14:41) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/267 (brainycmurf, 17:14:43) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N (brainycmurf, 17:14:47) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N (brainycmurf, 17:14:49) * ACTION: Neal to put Jens in contact with Aleix (brainycmurf, 17:15:31) * Appoint a chair for the F37 cycle (brainycmurf, 17:15:39) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/308 (brainycmurf, 17:15:41) * Upcoming meetings (brainycmurf, 17:15:49) * Release blocking status of basic functionality tests for apps (brainycmurf, 17:16:09) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/304 (brainycmurf, 17:16:11) * Howdy integration (brainycmurf, 17:16:33) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/272 (brainycmurf, 17:16:35) * In Repository Gnome Shell Extesions Need Some TLC (brainycmurf, 17:16:39) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/254 (brainycmurf, 17:16:41) * Announcements, Status Updates (brainycmurf, 17:16:45) * The minutes from last week have been posted. (brainycmurf, 17:16:59) * LINK: https://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2022-05… (brainycmurf, 17:17:01) Meeting ended at 17:17:04 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Neal to put Jens in contact with Aleix Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * Neal to put Jens in contact with Aleix People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * brainycmurf (75) * zodbot (7) * aday (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions

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'explaining computers' youtube review
by Matthew Miller 18 May '22

18 May '22

A comprehensive and generally positive revew here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5d0dfq_Ew8 (h/t Neal for pointing it out!) A couple of things struck me as worth working on as we reach wider and wider audience. These both GNOME UI elements, so maybe it's something where we can find a way to improve things upstream too. * He gets that the keyboard is the beset way to use the shell to launch apps. But it _is_ a lot of clicks if you're doing it the all-mouse way. I I think we should look into dash/dock options. * People are still hung up on maximize. I'm not in favor of adding buttons, but I think the drag-to-top-to-maximize / side-to-split functionality isn't discoverable enough. How can we make that more apparent? -- Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by catanzaro＠fedoraproject.org 17 May '22

17 May '22

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2022-05-17 from 09:30:00 to 10:30:00 US/Eastern At https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Etherpad: https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/fedora-workstation-wg More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10142/

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Workstation WG meeting, 17 May (secretary: Matthias)
by Allan Day 14 May '22

14 May '22

Hi all, The next meeting of the Fedora Workstation Working Group is planned for Tuesday 17 May, at 9.30 EDT. Join links: - https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ - https://www.bluejeans.com/numbers See below for the agenda. Allan -- Agenda #topic Review the state of i18n and l10n #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/267 #topic Release blocking status of basic functionality tests for apps #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/304 Assignees for sub-tasks, please: * https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/164 * https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/306 * https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/307 * https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/310 * https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/311 * https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/312 #topic Appoint a chair for the F37 cycle #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/308 Backlog issues: #topic Howdy integration https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/272 #topic In Repository Gnome Shell Extesions Need Some TLC https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/254 #topic Announcements, Status Updates #info The minutes from last week have been posted. #link https://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2022-05…

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[INPUT REQUESTED] fedora-chromium-config and Fedora Workstation
by Stephen Gallagher 12 May '22

12 May '22

There exists an extension[1] for Google Chrome that enables the management of GNOME Shell extensions on extensions.gnome.org. I am currently reworking some of the details around how the fedora-chromium-config package works and I would like to know: Would the Workstation WG be in favor of me adding a fedora-chromium-config-gnome subpackage that would automatically install the GNOME Shell Integration extension for Chrome/Chromium browsers? I can make its installation conditional on the presence of gnome-shell on the system if preferred. Of the other changes I'm looking at making: 1. Enable Chrome's auto-detection of DNS-over-HTTPS. It ships as disabled by default in Chrome currently, but it can be set to an 'auto' mode that will prefer DoH if it can determine that the DNS server supports it. 2. Drop the user-agent extension. Ever since the advent of Chrome v100, various sites (particularly those that rely on Cloudflare[2] such as Gitlab.com) have been having difficulties when this is enabled. As its utility is limited (mostly just for metrics purposes), I think the easiest solution is to just remove it. 3. There's a KDE Plasma integration extension too, maintained by the KDE upstream. Do we want to install that by default as well? [1] https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/gnome-shell-integration/gphhapmej… [2] https://github.com/tpopela/fedora-user-agent-chrome/issues/11

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Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2022-05-10
by Chris Murphy 10 May '22

10 May '22

============================================== #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2022-05-10) ============================================== Meeting started by brainycmurf at 00:19:55 UTC. The full logs are available athttps://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-05-11/workstation… . Meeting summary --------------- * Present members: Allan, Chris, Michael, Tomas, Matthias, Neal, Owen (brainycmurf, 00:20:08) * Guests: Luna Jernberg (bittin), Ben Cotton, Jack Sedita, Nishant, Jens (2nd half) (brainycmurf, 00:20:08) * Regrets: Jens (1st half) (brainycmurf, 00:20:08) * Missing: (brainycmurf, 00:20:08) * Secretary: Neal (brainycmurf, 00:20:08) * Review the state of i18n and l10n (brainycmurf, 00:20:08) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/267 (brainycmurf, 00:20:10) * Release blocking status of basic functionality tests for apps (brainycmurf, 00:20:14) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/304 (brainycmurf, 00:20:16) * ACTION: Clarify timings for testing the upcoming GNOME release. Put a reminder in our own schedule so we check that the packages are available when they're supposed to be. (brainycmurf, 00:20:43) * Appoint a chair for the F37 cycle (brainycmurf, 00:20:55) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/308 (brainycmurf, 00:20:57) * grub: Show old kernels under a "advanced options"submenu (brainycmurf, 00:21:05) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/282 (brainycmurf, 00:21:07) * ACTION: Chris will reach out to GRUB upstream to figure out if it's possible to improve SB multiboot. Ticket should be closed as deferred to upstream. (brainycmurf, 00:21:14) * Howdy integration (brainycmurf, 00:21:17) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/272 (brainycmurf, 00:21:19) * In Repository Gnome Shell Extesions Need Some TLC (brainycmurf, 00:21:23) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/254 (brainycmurf, 00:21:25) * Announcements, Status Updates (brainycmurf, 00:21:29) * The minutes from last week have been posted. (brainycmurf, 00:21:43) * LINK: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2022-05-03-… (brainycmurf, 00:21:45) Meeting ended at 00:21:47 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Clarify timings for testing the upcoming GNOME release. Put a reminder in our own schedule so we check that the packages are available when they're supposed to be. * Chris will reach out to GRUB upstream to figure out if it's possible to improve SB multiboot. Ticket should be closed as deferred to upstream. Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * Clarify timings for testing the upcoming GNOME release. Put a reminder in our own schedule so we check that the packages are available when they're supposed to be. * Chris will reach out to GRUB upstream to figure out if it's possible to improve SB multiboot. Ticket should be closed as deferred to upstream. People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * brainycmurf (47) * zodbot (7) * aday (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by catanzaro＠fedoraproject.org 10 May '22

10 May '22

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2022-05-10 from 09:30:00 to 10:30:00 US/Eastern At https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Etherpad: https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/fedora-workstation-wg More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10142/

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Proposal: changes to "default application functionality" release criteria
by Matthew Miller 06 May '22

06 May '22

Time to talk about https://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_36_Final_Release_Criteria#Default… again! Lots of desktop-app-related blockers this time around, and last time too. I think we're hitting a symptom-of-our-success problem here: increasing popularity and reviews noting how polished everything is makes us very much want to build on that. So I understand why this is here, including the expanded "all installed applications" Workstation criteria. But I think we might be using the wrong tool for some of this polish, and I think we also need to give ourselves some escape hatches. By way of concrete example, the Photos application is meant to be a photo organizer, so "album picker duplicates fields, preventing photo organization" https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2081291 is easy to classify as failing the basic functionality test currently. But, it's really painful for that to be blocking the release. So, ideas for discussion: 1. I know we have had GNOME Test days, but this stuff didn't come up. Presumably, it would have if someone had happened to look at GNOME Photos. Can we formally go through https://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_desktop_app_basic and https://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_desktop_app_basic_others much, much earlier (probably when the GNOME pre-release is available), either as part of a test day or some other formal thing? Or is there something else going on here that I'm not looking closely enough to see? (Same for KDE and any other theoretical release-blocking desktops!) 2. "Basic functionality" seems scoped too broadly currently. I propose, for the release criteria, we change this to: A) "the app doesn't crash on launch", and B) "the app's behavior does not seem immediately embarrassing with a few minutes of playing around with it". As a barometer for "embarrasing", you can imagine me trying to explain the issue to a tech reporter, and weigh how awkward I will feel saying "this is fine" vs. how I will feel explaining that we delayed the whole release for that same issue. 3. Problems found which are not regressions should not be blockers. We're just hurting ourselves when we make this our forcing function to get something fixed. Some of these could be Prioritized Bugs, but I don't want to overload that too much. I propose that the teams responsible for blocking desktop deliverables keep their own prioritized lists of this kind of problem that the team agrees should be fixed for a good user experience. Not just add to the general queues of bugs or tickets, but specific lists of "application experience issues". These lists, of course, could include problems which also don't qualify for point #2 but which seem important. Like the Photos app issues. (This could also extend to "desktop experience issues" rather than just "application". Or for that matter there could be a similar mechanism for non-desktop blocking deliverables.) I could be convinced either way on having these in the teams' issue trackers in pagure or whereever _or_ having it as more targets in the blockerbugs app. I tend towards the latter: I think it might help with the problem where blockers feel like the only obvious way to bugs tracked and fixed. But either way, there should be lists! 4. Desktop application problems discovered during at the last minute should not be blockers. If the problem is really going to impact a lot of people, it should have been discovered in the beta. (Exception for _new_ regressions, of course.) By the time we're in final freeze, this ends up being hero work for everyone. I don't know how to phrase this in a way that doesn't make Adam sad with me, but maybe something like: Desktop application blockers discovered during the final freeze are automatically waived unless the relevant Spin or Edition team decides otherwise. That lets us still block if something is really bad and just happened to slip through. 5. Okay, and... bigger: we should aim for more approaches which let us decouple as much as possible from the Release. (My grand hope is that we can release every deliverable on its own schedule, but I also understand the _highly aspirational_ nature of that idea. But...) What if we could just easily ship GNOME Photos from GNOME 41 until a fix is found in the updated one? -- Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader

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Workstation WG meeting, 10 May (secretary: Neal)
by Allan Day 06 May '22

06 May '22

Hi all, The next meeting of the Fedora Workstation Working Group is planned for Tuesday 10 May, at 9.30 EDT. Join links: - https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ - https://www.bluejeans.com/numbers See below for the agenda. Allan -- Agenda #topic Review the state of i18n and l10n #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/267 #topic Release blocking status of basic functionality tests for apps #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/304 Quick check in on this: does the plan seem right? Anything else we should be doing? Should we do a session on QA? Backlog issues: #topic grub: Show old kernels under a "advanced options"submenu #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/282 #topic Howdy integration https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/272 #topic In Repository Gnome Shell Extesions Need Some TLC https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/254 #topic Announcements, Status Updates #info The minutes from last week have been posted. #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2022-05-03-…

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Fwd: [Test-Announce] Fedora 36 Candidate RC-1.5 Available Now!
by Adam Williamson 04 May '22

04 May '22

Hey folks! Please see attached. Due to some late-breaking blockers and fixes, we're now up to RC5 for F36 Final. Go/no-go is tomorrow. If folks can help with testing, that'd be great. Here's a quick summary of the changes between the RC composes: RC1 -> RC2 gtk4-4.6.2-3.fc36 to fix #2071228 clevis-pin-tpm2-0.5.2-1.fc36 rust-tpm2-policy-0.6.0-1.fc36 to fix FTBFS RC2 -> RC3 wpa_supplicant-2.10-4.fc36 to fix #2072070 tracker-miners-3.3.0-2.fc36 to fix #2079308 mutter-42.0-6.fc36 to fix #2081070 openssl-3.0.2-4.fc36 to fix #2069239 gzip-1.11-3.fc36 to fix #2073312 kernel-5.17.5-300.fc36 for #2080694 snapper-0.10.1-1.fc36 for FTBFS selinux-policy-36.8-1.fc36 for #2065940 livecd-tools-30.0-1.fc36 for #2007045 xz-5.2.5-9.fc36 for #2080938 xdg-desktop-portal-1.12.4-1.fc36 for #2060990 sssd-2.7.0-1.fc36 for #2077856 gr-osmosdr-0.2.3-21.20210217gita100eb02.fc36 to fix FTBFS RC3 -> RC4 firefox-100.0-2.fc36 for #2081488 RC4 -> RC5 sushi-41.2-1.fc36 for #2067969 gnome-photos-42.0-2.fc36 for #2079344 #2081291 aws-2020-7.fc36 matreshka-20.1-10.fc36 templates_parser-11.8.0-30.fc36 for FTBFS So, RC3 had quite a lot of change in it. RC4 and RC5 are much more limited. So we can count most tests from RC3 or later as being valid for RC5; tests of Firefox, Nautilus and GNOME Photos should be re- confirmed. I have transferred results from RC3 and RC4 to RC5 in the matrix where appropriate, leaving out things that are considered 'sanity tests' (basic boot and install tests) which we try to run on every compose to rule out some kind of cosmic bit-flip unexpectedly breaking an image. So any spaces left on Basic/Beta/Final tests are ones we should try to fill. Special note on the Active Directory tests: it looks like tflink and sgallagh ran these on RC1, thanks a lot. Since we did get a new sssd between then and RC5 it would be *nice* if we could run them again, but if not we can probably run with the RC1 results in the end. Thanks again everyone! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net

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Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2022-05-03
by Chris Murphy 03 May '22

03 May '22

============================================== #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2022-05-03) ============================================== Meeting started by brainycmurf at 17:27:05 UTC. The full logs are available athttps://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-05-03/workstation… . Meeting summary --------------- * Present members: Allan, Tomas, Chris, Matthias, Owen, Neal (brainycmurf, 17:27:32) * Guests: Ben (brainycmurf, 17:27:32) * Regrets: Jens (brainycmurf, 17:27:32) * Missing: (brainycmurf, 17:27:32) * Secretary: Chris (brainycmurf, 17:27:32) * Release blocking status of basic functionality tests for apps (brainycmurf, 17:27:33) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/304 (brainycmurf, 17:27:34) * Fedora final release criterion specifying "basic functionality" (brainycmurf, 17:27:39) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_36_Final_Release_Criteria#Default_app… (brainycmurf, 17:27:41) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_36_Final_Release_Criteria#Default_app… (brainycmurf, 17:29:24) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test (brainycmurf, 17:29:29) * Parental Controls app getting poor reviews (brainycmurf, 17:29:31) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/263 (brainycmurf, 17:29:33) * AGREED: Parental Controls should not be visible in g-c-c (brainycmurf, 17:29:44) * grub: Show old kernels under a "advanced options"submenu (brainycmurf, 17:29:50) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/282 (brainycmurf, 17:29:52) * Howdy integration (brainycmurf, 17:29:54) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/272 (brainycmurf, 17:29:56) * In Repository Gnome Shell Extesions Need Some TLC (brainycmurf, 17:29:58) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/254 (brainycmurf, 17:30:00) * Announcements, Status Updates (brainycmurf, 17:30:02) * Go/no go is this Thursday (brainycmurf, 17:30:04) * Fedora 36 flatpak runtime is almost ready (brainycmurf, 17:30:06) * F36 release party May 13-14 (brainycmurf, 17:30:08) * Neal: Fedora Media Writer 5.0 is nearly ready, now using Qt6 with native styles on Windows and Mac, and QGnomePlatform for Linux on GNOME (brainycmurf, 17:30:10) * The minutes from last week have been posted. (brainycmurf, 17:30:13) * LINK: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-04-26/workstation.2… (brainycmurf, 17:30:17) Meeting ended at 17:30:36 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * brainycmurf (71) * zodbot (7) * aday (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions

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gnome-photos release blockers
by Kamil Paral 03 May '22

03 May '22

Hi, not sure if you're aware, there are currently 2 accepted release blockers for gnome-photos: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2079308 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2079344 Somebody said in chat that gnome-photos is no longer maintained and should be removed from the default Workstation install. That would of course resolve those blocker. Or we need to fix those bugs very quickly. Please look into this with a high priority. Thank you!

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by catanzaro＠fedoraproject.org 02 May '22

02 May '22

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2022-05-03 from 09:30:00 to 10:30:00 US/Eastern At https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Etherpad: https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/fedora-workstation-wg More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10142/

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