Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2022-09-13
by Chris Murphy
==============================================
#fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2022-09-13)
==============================================
Meeting started by brainycmurf at 20:35:57 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-09-13/workstation...
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* Present members: Allan, Chris, Michael, Kalev, Matthias, Jens, Neal,
Owen (brainycmurf, 20:36:20)
* Guests: (brainycmurf, 20:36:21)
* Regrets: Tomáš, Luna (brainycmurf, 20:36:21)
* Missing: (brainycmurf, 20:36:21)
* Secretary: Matthias (brainycmurf, 20:36:21)
* F37 release status (brainycmurf, 20:36:21)
* gnome-contacts 43.rc is stuck, due to issues (brainycmurf,
20:36:25)
* LINK: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-contacts/-/issues/266
(brainycmurf, 20:36:27)
* gnome 43 final, test week results (brainycmurf, 20:36:31)
* LINK: https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/140 (brainycmurf,
20:36:33)
* i18n test day results (brainycmurf, 20:36:45)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2022-09-06_I18N_Test_Day
(brainycmurf, 20:36:47)
* F37 blocker bugs (brainycmurf, 20:36:57)
* LINK:
https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/37/final/buglist
(brainycmurf, 20:36:59)
* ACTION: Matthias to ping Carlos or Ray about the keyboard issue
(brainycmurf, 20:37:19)
* ACTION: Matthias to comment on the issue (brainycmurf, 20:37:36)
* proposal to cover it under release criteria (brainycmurf, 20:37:41)
* LINK:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/desktop@lists.fedoraproject...
(brainycmurf, 20:37:43)
* ACTION: Kalev will reach out to the package maintainer
(brainycmurf, 20:37:50)
* ACTION: : Michael to reach out to Niels about the regression
(brainycmurf, 20:38:20)
* Announcements, Status Updates (brainycmurf, 20:38:22)
* The minutes from last week have been posted. (brainycmurf,
20:38:24)
* LINK:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-09-07/workstation...
(brainycmurf, 20:38:26)
Meeting ended at 20:41:31 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* Matthias to ping Carlos or Ray about the keyboard issue
* Matthias to comment on the issue
* Kalev will reach out to the package maintainer
* : Michael to reach out to Niels about the regression
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
* Matthias to ping Carlos or Ray about the keyboard issue
* Matthias to comment on the issue
* Kalev will reach out to the package maintainer
* : Michael to reach out to Niels about the regression
People Present (lines said)
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* brainycmurf (77)
* zodbot (7)
* Allan (0)
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1 year, 7 months
Re: Release criteria proposal: require GNOME Shell extension
install/remove to work
by Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2022-09-12 at 14:39 -0700, Scott Beamer wrote:
> On 9/12/22 12:35 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > Hey folks!
> >
> > So a bug came up at today's blocker review meeting:
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2106868
> >
> > it takes a minute to parse, but the tl;dr is that right now in Fedora
> > 37, you can't go tohttps://extensions.gnome.org and install
> > extensions.
>
> Actually, that's not true. You *can* install the few extensions that
> have been updated for GNOME 43, but what you *can't* do is use any of
> the other new functionality on extensions.gnome.org. They used to show
> you what those functions were, but they were greyed out (IIRC, one of
> them allowed you to disable compatibility checks so that you could
> install any extension - broken or not). I don't recall what the other
> one was, because the options are removed for anyone not on the current API.
>
> This message currently appears on the website with GNOME 42 in Fedora 36
> and 37.
>
> "Your native host connector do not support following APIs: v6. Probably
> you should upgrade native host connector or install plugins for missing
> APIs. Referdocumentation
> <https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeShellIntegrationForChrome/Installation>for
> instructions."
Oh, yes, you're right. That does make the bug less critical indeed. I
guess it happened to be the case that none of the three or four random
extensions I tested with is updated to 43, so that's why I thought the
bug prevented installing them...
--
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA
IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha
https://www.happyassassin.net
1 year, 7 months
Fwd: KDE on Linux Unplugged this week
by Luna Jernberg
and Fedora with GNOME
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Luna Jernberg <droidbittin(a)gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2022 07:54:21 +0200
Subject: Fwd: KDE on Linux Unplugged this week
To: droidbittin(a)gmail.com
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Luna Jernberg <droidbittin(a)gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2022 07:54:02 +0200
Subject: KDE on Linux Unplugged this week
To: neon <neon(a)kde.org>, kde <kde(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>, kde-devel
<kde-devel(a)kde.org>, kde <kde(a)lists.opensuse.org>, kde <kde(a)kde.org>,
kde-community <kde-community(a)kde.org>, kde-promo <kde-promo(a)kde.org>,
kubuntu-devel <kubuntu-devel(a)lists.ubuntu.com>, kubuntu-users
<kubuntu-users(a)lists.ubuntu.com>
https://linuxunplugged.com/475 KDE Talk in this weeks LUP
1 year, 7 months
Fwd: Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2022-09-06
by Luna Jernberg
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Luna Jernberg <droidbittin(a)gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2022 21:27:15 +0200
Subject: Fwd: Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2022-09-06
To: droidbittin(a)gmail.com
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Luna Jernberg <droidbittin(a)gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2022 21:27:01 +0200
Subject: Re: Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2022-09-06
To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop
<desktop(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>, lists(a)colorremedies.com,
list(a)colorremedies.com, cmurf <cmurf(a)fedoraproject.org>, Allan Day
<aday(a)redhat.com>, catanzaro <catanzaro(a)fedoraproject.org>, Luna
Jernberg <bittin(a)fedoraproject.org>, droidbittin(a)gmail.com,
kalevlember <kalevlember(a)gmail.com>, Sumantro Mukherjee
<sumukher(a)redhat.com>, Adam Williamson <adamwill(a)fedoraproject.org>,
For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases
<test(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>
Did some GNOME 43 RC 1 testing earlier this evening
On 9/7/22, Luna Jernberg <droidbittin(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Read the logs now, as i was at a Red Hat conference in Stockholm i
> missed the meeting
> Will miss the meeting next week too as i have private stuff to attend,
> will be back in 2-3 weeks
>
> On 9/7/22, Chris Murphy <lists(a)colorremedies.com> wrote:
>> ==============================================
>> #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2022-09-06)
>> ==============================================
>>
>>
>> Meeting started by brainycmurf at 01:10:39 UTC. The full logs are
>> available at
>> https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-09-07/workstation...
>> .
>>
>>
>>
>> Meeting summary
>> ---------------
>> * Present members: Tom, Kalev, Chris, Matthias, Michael, Neal
>> (brainycmurf, 01:10:52)
>> * Guests: Maira (brainycmurf, 01:10:52)
>> * Regrets: Owen, Jens (brainycmurf, 01:10:52)
>> * Missing: (brainycmurf, 01:10:52)
>> * Secretary: Chris (brainycmurf, 01:10:52)
>> * Progress check on workstation blocker issues (brainycmurf, 01:10:53)
>>
>> * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2111025 (gnome-shell)
>> (brainycmurf, 01:10:55)
>> * LINK:
>> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/merge_requests/2436 has
>> been merged, so the issues should be fixed upstream (brainycmurf,
>> 01:10:57)
>>
>> * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2121110
>> (gnome-initial-setup) (brainycmurf, 01:11:00)
>>
>> * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2111003 (gnome-contacts)
>> (brainycmurf, 01:11:04)
>>
>> * [abrt] totem: nouveau_pushbuf_data(): totem killed by SIGABRT -
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2123274 (brainycmurf,
>> 01:11:08)
>>
>> * Unable to set up enterprise account with gnome-initial-setup due to
>> missing buttons - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2123494
>> (brainycmurf, 01:11:17)
>>
>> * F37 release status (brainycmurf, 01:11:30)
>> * Kalev is nearly done with the GNOME 43 RC packages. We'll have the
>> important ones for the test day. (brainycmurf, 01:11:32)
>>
>> * GNOME 43 RC test day: (brainycmurf, 01:11:35)
>> * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/705 (brainycmurf,
>> 01:11:37)
>> * LINK:
>>
>> https://fedoramagazine.org/contribute-at-the-i18n-release-validation-cryp...
>> (brainycmurf, 01:11:43)
>> * Will try to get the wiki updated so it shows #fedora-workstation for
>> the discussion during test day (week). (brainycmurf, 01:11:46)
>> * LINK: https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/140 (brainycmurf,
>> 01:11:49)
>> * ACTION: Allan will discuss the wiki page with Sumantro, breaking it
>> down into groups and indicate priorities (brainycmurf, 01:11:57)
>>
>> * i18n test day results (brainycmurf, 01:12:00)
>> * LINK:
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2022-09-06_I18N_Test_Day
>> (brainycmurf, 01:12:02)
>>
>> * Release blocking criteria for preinstalled apps (brainycmurf,
>> 01:12:06)
>> * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/304 (brainycmurf,
>> 01:12:08)
>>
>> * Future of dual booting Windows and Fedora (brainycmurf, 01:12:37)
>> * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/278 (brainycmurf,
>> 01:12:39)
>> * ACTION: Allan to set up a separate call with interested parties
>> (brainycmurf, 01:12:46)
>>
>> * Announcements, Status Updates (brainycmurf, 01:12:48)
>> * Cannot switch to Boot Options on reboot (brainycmurf, 01:12:50)
>> * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2124043
>> (brainycmurf, 01:12:52)
>> * gnome-info-collect released, Fedora Magazine covered it
>> (brainycmurf, 01:12:54)
>> * LINK:
>>
>> https://fedoramagazine.org/help-improve-gnome-using-gnome-info-collect/
>> (brainycmurf, 01:12:56)
>> * Neal has a PoC to get H264 properly installed and Anaconda properly
>> uninstalled on first boot. (brainycmurf, 01:12:58)
>> * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-autofirstboot (brainycmurf,
>> 01:13:01)
>> * The minutes from last week have been posted. (brainycmurf,
>> 01:13:03)
>> * LINK:
>>
>> https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-08-30/workstation...
>> (brainycmurf, 01:13:05)
>>
>> Meeting ended at 01:14:14 UTC.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Action Items
>> ------------
>> * Allan will discuss the wiki page with Sumantro, breaking it down into
>> groups and indicate priorities
>> * Allan to set up a separate call with interested parties
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Action Items, by person
>> -----------------------
>> * Allan
>> * Allan will discuss the wiki page with Sumantro, breaking it down
>> into groups and indicate priorities
>> * Allan to set up a separate call with interested parties
>> * **UNASSIGNED**
>> * (none)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> People Present (lines said)
>> ---------------------------
>> * brainycmurf (62)
>> * zodbot (7)
>> * Allan (0)
>>
>>
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1 year, 7 months
Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2022-09-06
by Chris Murphy
==============================================
#fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2022-09-06)
==============================================
Meeting started by brainycmurf at 01:10:39 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-09-07/workstation...
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* Present members: Tom, Kalev, Chris, Matthias, Michael, Neal
(brainycmurf, 01:10:52)
* Guests: Maira (brainycmurf, 01:10:52)
* Regrets: Owen, Jens (brainycmurf, 01:10:52)
* Missing: (brainycmurf, 01:10:52)
* Secretary: Chris (brainycmurf, 01:10:52)
* Progress check on workstation blocker issues (brainycmurf, 01:10:53)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2111025 (gnome-shell)
(brainycmurf, 01:10:55)
* LINK:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/merge_requests/2436 has
been merged, so the issues should be fixed upstream (brainycmurf,
01:10:57)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2121110
(gnome-initial-setup) (brainycmurf, 01:11:00)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2111003 (gnome-contacts)
(brainycmurf, 01:11:04)
* [abrt] totem: nouveau_pushbuf_data(): totem killed by SIGABRT -
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2123274 (brainycmurf,
01:11:08)
* Unable to set up enterprise account with gnome-initial-setup due to
missing buttons - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2123494
(brainycmurf, 01:11:17)
* F37 release status (brainycmurf, 01:11:30)
* Kalev is nearly done with the GNOME 43 RC packages. We'll have the
important ones for the test day. (brainycmurf, 01:11:32)
* GNOME 43 RC test day: (brainycmurf, 01:11:35)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/705 (brainycmurf,
01:11:37)
* LINK:
https://fedoramagazine.org/contribute-at-the-i18n-release-validation-cryp...
(brainycmurf, 01:11:43)
* Will try to get the wiki updated so it shows #fedora-workstation for
the discussion during test day (week). (brainycmurf, 01:11:46)
* LINK: https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/140 (brainycmurf,
01:11:49)
* ACTION: Allan will discuss the wiki page with Sumantro, breaking it
down into groups and indicate priorities (brainycmurf, 01:11:57)
* i18n test day results (brainycmurf, 01:12:00)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2022-09-06_I18N_Test_Day
(brainycmurf, 01:12:02)
* Release blocking criteria for preinstalled apps (brainycmurf,
01:12:06)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/304 (brainycmurf,
01:12:08)
* Future of dual booting Windows and Fedora (brainycmurf, 01:12:37)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/278 (brainycmurf,
01:12:39)
* ACTION: Allan to set up a separate call with interested parties
(brainycmurf, 01:12:46)
* Announcements, Status Updates (brainycmurf, 01:12:48)
* Cannot switch to Boot Options on reboot (brainycmurf, 01:12:50)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2124043
(brainycmurf, 01:12:52)
* gnome-info-collect released, Fedora Magazine covered it
(brainycmurf, 01:12:54)
* LINK:
https://fedoramagazine.org/help-improve-gnome-using-gnome-info-collect/
(brainycmurf, 01:12:56)
* Neal has a PoC to get H264 properly installed and Anaconda properly
uninstalled on first boot. (brainycmurf, 01:12:58)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-autofirstboot (brainycmurf,
01:13:01)
* The minutes from last week have been posted. (brainycmurf,
01:13:03)
* LINK:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-08-30/workstation...
(brainycmurf, 01:13:05)
Meeting ended at 01:14:14 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* Allan will discuss the wiki page with Sumantro, breaking it down into
groups and indicate priorities
* Allan to set up a separate call with interested parties
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* Allan
* Allan will discuss the wiki page with Sumantro, breaking it down
into groups and indicate priorities
* Allan to set up a separate call with interested parties
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* brainycmurf (62)
* zodbot (7)
* Allan (0)
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1 year, 7 months
2022-09-06 (TUESDAY) @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora 37 Blocker Review Meeting
by Adam Williamson
# F36 Blocker Review meeting
# Date: 2022-09-06
# Time: 16:00 UTC
# Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.libera.chat
Hi folks! We have 1 proposed Beta blocker, 3 proposed Beta freeze
exceptions, and 1 proposed Final blocker to review, so let's have a
review meeting. As tomorrow (Monday) is a holiday in North America,
we'll do the meeting on **TUESDAY**, September 6.
If you have time this weekend, you can take a look at the proposed or
accepted blockers before the meeting - the full lists can be found
here: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/ .
Remember, you can also now vote on bugs outside of review meetings! If
you look at the bug list in the blockerbugs app, you'll see links
labeled "Vote!" next to all proposed blockers and freeze exceptions.
Those links take you to tickets where you can vote.
https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review has instructions on how
exactly you do it. We usually go through the tickets shortly before the
meeting and apply any clear votes, so the meeting will just cover bugs
where there wasn't a clear outcome in the ticket voting yet. **THIS
MEANS IF YOU VOTE NOW, THE MEETING WILL BE SHORTER!**
We'll be evaluating these bugs to see if they violate any of the
Release Criteria and warrant the blocking of a release if they're not
fixed. Information on the release criteria for F36 can be found on the
wiki [0].
For more information about the Blocker and Freeze exception process,
check out these links:
- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process
- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_freeze_exception_bug_process
And for those of you who are curious how a Blocker Review Meeting
works - or how it's supposed to go and you want to run one - check out
the SOP on the wiki:
- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
Have a good long weekend and see you Tuesday!
[0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria
--
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA
IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha
https://www.happyassassin.net
1 year, 7 months
